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Obama administration defies congressional subpoena on Fort Hood documents
Washington Post Online ^ | 4/27/10 | Craig Whitlock

Posted on 04/28/2010 5:13:35 AM PDT by highlander_UW

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To: FreedomPoster
The fact that extreme political correctness had insinuated itself into our military to the degree necessary for this event to have occurred is the most frightening thing about this whole episode.

To call this merely political correctness is to believe that all of those Communist sympathizers who got into the Obama administration were "accidents" because they weren't properly vetted.

Our president is pro-Islamist. That does not mean that he supported Nadil Hasan's attack but he did not believe his extremist ideology to be the biggest threat this nation faces. Just look at how Obama has called an end to the "war on terror", bowed to Islamic nations (genuine theocracies in outright insult to our nation's foundation that includes recognition of a freedom of religion for ALL people), treated Israel, and whipped up hysteria over tea party "violence" when there has been none (unlike the illegal immigration rallies, anti-prop 8 rallies, "peace" protests of American wars, and even domestic Islamist terrorism that this administration refuses to call "terrorism").

62 posted on 04/28/2010 8:21:28 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
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To: xzins
Read the constitution. The president is the commander in chief, but Congress has power to REGULATE the military. It’s right in there under powers of Congress

Why don't YOU read the Constitution. Pay close attention to Article I Section 8....

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

Then you can progress onto Article II Section 2. Pay attention here

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

So, Congress can fund the military, maintain the military, and provide rules for the military. The PRESIDENT is the COMMANDER IN CHIEF. Then grab a dictionary.

com·mand·er   /kəˈmændər, -ˈmɑn-/ Show Spelled[kuh-man-der, -mahn-] Show IPA –noun

1.a person who commands.

2.a person who exercises authority; chief officer; leader.

What does it mean to exercise authority? Would you be in Control if you exercised your authority?

Well what does it say about "commander in chief?"

commander in chief  –noun,pluralcommanders in chief.

1.Also, Commander in Chief. the supreme commander of the armed forces of a nation or, sometimes, of several allied nations: The president is the Commander in Chief of the U.S. Army, Navy, and Air Force.

2.an officer in command of a particular portion of an armed force who has been given this title by specific authorization

So, in todays lesson we have learned that YES, The POTUS is in fact in control of the military. He is the sole appointed head of the military. Congress can create rules and regulations. However, the President is in CONTROL of the military. As I stated.

If the President was NOT in Control, than Congress, or it's delegate, would have been named CIC.

Then there is that whole enlistment oath

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

Not seeing where the oath dictates Congress has control. It does however, say that the swearer will obey the orders of the President.

63 posted on 04/28/2010 8:24:26 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Repeat Offender

Further, legislatures legislate..... executors execute. One writes, the other carries out. The one that carries out has the control in the manner they are carried out.


64 posted on 04/28/2010 8:26:58 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: highlander_UW

Nadil Hasan committed an act of treason when he launched a domestic terrorist attack on the people at Fort Hood shouting Allah ‘FUBAR’ after consulting with Al Qaeda.

That persons within our government KNEW of these communications and his violent outburts against non-muslims (calling for their beheading) is a deriliction of duty.

Nadil Hasan belongs in the brig awaiting his trial and executiion.

Others in our government also need to swear under oath what their role was in shielding Nadil Hasan from oversight.

Joe McCarthy and Roy Cohn got demonized in the 1950s for daring to suggest that there was a fifth column in our US military and State Department. With the actions of Nadil Hasan and the numerous leaked documents from the State Department to the press, that fifth column is STILL present.


65 posted on 04/28/2010 8:29:28 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
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BTTT of the treason list.


66 posted on 04/28/2010 8:31:00 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: Candor7
The makings of a civil war are emminant.The Obama Junta will stand down and follow the constitution or it will now invoke race riots in Phoenix.

The Obama regime is threatening to sue the state of AZ. Clearly they don't understand the constitution and out of their arrogance they assume that most Americans have the same level of disdain for the constitution that they do. But if they do sue AZ they're opening up a whole new can of worms over states rights...and to be honest, it's a debate that is FAR overdue.

67 posted on 04/28/2010 8:42:56 AM PDT by highlander_UW (First we take down the Democrats, then we clean the Augean stable that is the GOP.)
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To: manc
don’t get it as I am no lawyer but how can they ignore this

it's not a matter of law, it's a matter of power. Who is going to force them?

68 posted on 04/28/2010 8:43:46 AM PDT by highlander_UW (First we take down the Democrats, then we clean the Augean stable that is the GOP.)
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To: manc
I hope the media will be investigated in their corrupt reporting and exposed as this is corrupt to the core

Who has the platform and the will to do it? The left counts on the fact that no one does...and they get away with just about anything they want. I don't see any hope that the US can be saved. I'd like to think I'm just being overly negative, but I haven't seen anything to dissuade me from that opinion, although I'd really like to find it if it exists.

69 posted on 04/28/2010 8:46:32 AM PDT by highlander_UW (First we take down the Democrats, then we clean the Augean stable that is the GOP.)
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To: xzins
Congress controls the military. If Obama doesn’t cooperate, they should simply open their own investigation and call in all witnesses and start a square one inquiry.

Congress is run by the dems...it won't happen. The "police" are as corrupt as the "crooks" when it comes to congress.

70 posted on 04/28/2010 8:47:36 AM PDT by highlander_UW (First we take down the Democrats, then we clean the Augean stable that is the GOP.)
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To: highlander_UW

sadly you’re right

the GOP has shut up so much that the left have pushed their agenda.
staying silent has only helped the far left and it pisses me off that the GOP still refuses to speak up


71 posted on 04/28/2010 8:49:03 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: highlander_UW

If this were a REPUB administration, the MSM would be hammering them day after day on this arrogant stonewall of Congress.


72 posted on 04/28/2010 8:50:25 AM PDT by rod1
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To: Diogenesis

Never Forget.

Never, Never, Never, Forget.


73 posted on 04/28/2010 8:58:18 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: manc
sadly you’re right the GOP has shut up so much that the left have pushed their agenda. staying silent has only helped the far left and it pisses me off that the GOP still refuses to speak up

Even when the GOP does stand up (and they have on several issues) the corrupt media that has sold out to the leftists beat them down with accusations such as "the party of no". Well, when the bills proposed are horrific, the only just and moral answer is "no". But too many Americans are complacent and asleep...and I don't see how they can be awakened in sufficient numbers. And even if they did wake up, it'd take time to bring them up to speed on what is going on. I know my mother doesn't even believe me when I quite Obama or one of his administration...they are so extreme that she can't believe anyone would actually say what they do.

74 posted on 04/28/2010 9:07:01 AM PDT by highlander_UW (First we take down the Democrats, then we clean the Augean stable that is the GOP.)
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To: highlander_UW

the biggest problem we have right now I think is the media, if they did their job the rats would not be able to get away with even half of what they are doing.

They have been corrupt not just bias and it is sickening and I only hope some sort of investigation will be done into this though will not hold my breath


75 posted on 04/28/2010 9:10:50 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: highlander_UW

Agreed. But if Obama calls in the SEIU thugs and anarchists from such orgs as the Iron Rail, there will be little time for debate. It will be Shelaleigh law.


76 posted on 04/28/2010 9:16:59 AM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: manc
the biggest problem we have right now I think is the media, if they did their job the rats would not be able to get away with even half of what they are doing. They have been corrupt not just bias and it is sickening and I only hope some sort of investigation will be done into this though will not hold my breath

The 2 core pillars, as I see it, are the media and education. Both of those are firmly in the hands of leftists...and the result is the destruction of America.

Conservatives should push for the privatization of education to remove it from the hands of leftists. The media is a more difficult nut to crack, although I have some ideas on that, but they all take money...which I don't have.

77 posted on 04/28/2010 9:20:54 AM PDT by highlander_UW (First we take down the Democrats, then we clean the Augean stable that is the GOP.)
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To: Candor7
Agreed. But if Obama calls in the SEIU thugs and anarchists from such orgs as the Iron Rail, there will be little time for debate. It will be Shelaleigh law.

And the last step to the Marxist totalitarian state will be complete...but it will, at least, be in the open for all to see. Not that I desire to see the final destruction of America, although it seems I'll see it rather I desire it or not.

78 posted on 04/28/2010 9:22:31 AM PDT by highlander_UW (First we take down the Democrats, then we clean the Augean stable that is the GOP.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Joe was right.

The Venona Secrets

79 posted on 04/28/2010 9:23:56 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: highlander_UW
I do not believe it would be the destruction of America, but its rebirth.

The last bunch of radicals who tried this when Ayers was a college student went down in a hail of lead. IMHO I don't think that Obama and his thugs are much different. They are merely clothed with a shallow veneer of legitimacy obtained by lies and deceit.America knows who they are now, and if we do not de-elect them, then most of them have pine boxes in their future IMHO, if they play the race card in Arizona.

America has little tolernace for racists on either side of that coin.

80 posted on 04/28/2010 9:32:03 AM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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