Gov. Henry vetoes gun bill (OK version of FFA)

Claremore, OK Daily Progress ^ | April 27, 2010 | Sean Murphy (AP)

[Still Thinking]

Henry(D) the current gov, can't run again. Gotta wonder why he would defend this hill but he may have his eye on something else in a year or two. Not likely he'll get very far in Oklahoma, especially in the present political climate.

Probably looking to move to the Nazi, er National Socialist, er national stage.

Talking about types of legislation and override margins, I wonder why they even passed the emergency version, knowing they had a pantywaist Democrat for a governor. Their failure to override weakens them politically. Without being familiar with OK politics or the parties involved, it seems like it would have been smarter to go with the non-emergency version in the first place.

BTW, did you see the PBS special on guns last night? It wasn't as bad as you'd expect. They actually asked some reasonable questions to the open carry and gun-rights activists they talked to, and not just stuff like "when did you quit beating your wife". A reporter is SUPPOSED to be a little skeptical and make the guy defend his positions, and they weren't over the top, although they were occasionally overcome by their statist bias too much to hide or work around it. They were incredulous, for example, when they were talking to an advocate of flyers being armed. He said 9/11 would have turned out a lot better than it did if the passengers had been. It went back and forth a couple times, and the interviewer did the old trick of coming across doubtful and skeptical but not saying anything other than repeating the question in the form of "So you really think..." and trying to prod the interviewee into talking too much and sticking his foot in his mouth. People hate dead air and will keep talking as long as you let them. I was proud of the guy though. He made his point and shut up, which left the interviewer looking like a dork, because he was still trying to pull the skeptical thing, and the subject wasn't talking.

Now despite my description, overall the interviews with the pro-rights people and the accompanying voiceovers weren't as bad as you'd expect. Where I did find more bias was when they interviewed the gun-control activists, including Mayor Bloomingidiot. They lobbed softball questions, and accepted any lies, gross exaggerations, and "true" statements based upon tortured definitions of words as holy writ. Very unobjective. Much worse than the interviews with the pro-rights guys.

[dbwz]

"I'm a strong supporter of the Second Amendment and have earned an 'A' rating from the NRA, but this legislation does nothing to protect an individual's right to bear arms," Henry, a Democrat, said in a statement. "It abolishes commonsense regulations like background checks and gives criminals easy access to a wide array of weapons. This law would harm Oklahomans, not protect them."

Wow. An "A" rating from the almighty NRA, and he grabs a line right out of the Brady Bunch handbook when the chips are down.

So how is it you all are electing Democrats in flyover paradise? Seriously, I don't want to hear another crack about "RINOs" in NJ or MA. Clean up your own backyard first.

Oh, and I be the NRA gives him another "A" next election cycle.

[Still Thinking]

"It abolishes commonsense regulations like background checks and gives criminals easy access to a wide array of weapons. This law would harm Oklahomans, not protect them."

Wow. An "A" rating from the almighty NRA, and he grabs a line right out of the Brady Bunch handbook when the chips are down.

And he's full of crap anyway. The FFA's don't say "The state may not require background checks even if the state decides it's a good idea", but "Intrastate commerce is NONE of Congress' business, and they may not regulate it, including for example requiring NICS checks on firearms purchased and used intrastate."

[ForGod'sSake]

It went back and forth a couple times, and the interviewer did the old trick of coming across doubtful and skeptical but not saying anything other than repeating the question in the form of "So you really think..." and trying to prod the interviewee into talking too much and sticking his foot in his mouth. People hate dead air and will keep talking as long as you let them. I was proud of the guy though. He made his point and shut up, which left the interviewer looking like a dork, because he was still trying to pull the skeptical thing, and the subject wasn't talking.

I missed it but you make some keen observations. I gather salesmen, barristers and journalists amongst others receive similar training for dealing with a "mark". The really talented ones also have the instincts of predator. And unless one also has the instincts of a cat or has had some fairly intensive training of some kind to deal with these types, it's often a lop-sided affair. Going up against the better ones in any of these categories is akin to getting caught up in a spider web; the more you struggle, the worse it gets.

BTW, in case you missed it, the limp wristed anderson cooper put on a disgusting display when interviewing Col. Lakin and his attorney:

Obama Birth Certificate: Mainstream Media Interviews Lt. Col. Lakin(A Cooper 360)

Video HERE.

[kbennkc]

I look forward to the day I might own a fine gun backed with the famous “Oklahoma Guaranty” . How it got out of there will forever be a secret to avoid the invocation of the dreaded commerce clause .

[Still Thinking]

Once you learn the trick, not only are you immune to it yourself, you can use it on other people. When you’re negotiating something and someone makes their offer, don’t respond immediately. Then, in an instinct to prevent dead air, they’ll keep talking and often tip their hand to what their top/bottom dollar is.

[Still Thinking]

BTW, in case you missed it, the limp wristed anderson cooper put on a disgusting display when interviewing Col. Lakin and his attorney.

I did miss it. I'll check out the video. Normally, I'd never watch Anderson Pooper but then again, normally I'd never watch a news program on PBS like that gun special, either. For some reason, it was actually the most interesting thing on last night, believe it or don't.

[Dr.Zoidberg]

Bullcrap

He's a (D) party stooge, they aren't exactly known for their ability to form rational thoughts.

Odds are good if it were explained to him exactly how you would explain it to a 5 year old, including pictures and maybe even a song or two, he'd get it. Eventually.

Until then, he's little more than a an angry child in a big chair who lacks a sound education. Treat him as such and override his tantrum, er, veto.

[Pining_4_TX]

Unfortunately, Largent ran a very poor campaign, too.

[Pining_4_TX]

Brogdon is the true conservative in the race, but Mary Fallin is the establishment, party choice and it looks as if she has it sown up. It disgusts me, but that’s the way it is. She can’t speak for more than 10 minutes without whining about how difficult it has been for her as a single mother (she’s married now). Blech, what a zero.

[SuperLuminal]

The terms "demoncrat" and "2nd Amendment supporter" are mutually exclusive.

OTOH, the terms "demoncrat" and "prevaricating piece of communist excrement" are absolutely equal.