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Texas bill would require birthplace proof for presidential candidates (About Time Alert)
Boston Herals ^

Posted on 04/29/2010 8:44:11 AM PDT by Thurston_Howell_III

FORTH WORTH, Texas — A state lawmaker wants to make sure that any candidate on the presidential ticket from now on can show proof they were born in the United States — or not be allowed on the Texas ballot.

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonherald.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: accountability; birthcertificate; certifigate; dnc; eligibility; foreigninterst; fraud; immigration; longformbc; naturalborncitizen; nodualcitizen; obama; pelosi; progressives; proof; seiu; soros; texas; tx; usurper; wethepeople; wfp
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To: ml/nj

“If there is a next “go round.” I get the sense that Obama will not go meekly into the night.”

Just like clinton then.


21 posted on 04/29/2010 8:59:49 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Ingtar
Actually, it needs to require birth certificate and proof of citizenship for both parents

Hear here!

HF

22 posted on 04/29/2010 9:00:41 AM PDT by holden
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To: KMG365

Bingo. He’s never winning Texas anyway. But we ought to be able to pass this in Florida. Ohio, Pennsylvania, Missouri and Minnesota also ought to be targets. Of course, the first two you’d run into Dem governors who would veto the law.


23 posted on 04/29/2010 9:02:26 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: Thurston_Howell_III

This is a commonsense approach to what will continue to be a bedeviling controversy otherwise.

State the standard. Enforce it. That is all.


24 posted on 04/29/2010 9:02:44 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Sic semper tyrannis! Stop spending. Starve the beast.)
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To: KMG365

Doesn’t matter if its only in states he can’t win anyway. All it requires is one state to not put him on the ballot because he refuses to comply with the law. At that point I don’t think that even the msm can ignore it.


25 posted on 04/29/2010 9:03:43 AM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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To: RWGinger

Hook ‘em Horns!


26 posted on 04/29/2010 9:03:55 AM PDT by May31st
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To: Grumpybutt

It’s worth it anyway. The Constitution must be upheld and, apparently, there is no process for doing that as to presidential candidates at the moment. If a party hack says, yeah, he’s eligible, that seems to be all there is to it and that is not sufficient.


27 posted on 04/29/2010 9:04:46 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Sic semper tyrannis! Stop spending. Starve the beast.)
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To: Thurston_Howell_III
It seems that this law, like other State laws as far as proof of birth, would be satisfied by a computer printout COLB from Hawaii DOH.

Hawaii says that their COLB listing a Hawaiian birthplace is proof of birth within their state, and under the “full faith and credit” clause, Texas is obligated to accept it.

This law neither “Free(s) the long form” or establishes that one must be the child of two citizens to be a “natural born citizen”. In fact it seems that any proof of birth establishing U.S. citizenship at birth would fulfill the requirment to be on the Presidential ballot for any of these States that have (so far) passed these measures.

28 posted on 04/29/2010 9:04:54 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Thurston_Howell_III

It probably does/will. Remember, this info is being filtered through an LSM “journalist” at the Boston Herald...


29 posted on 04/29/2010 9:12:25 AM PDT by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: Thurston_Howell_III
Although his campaign produced a birth certificate that shows Obama was born in Hawaii.

Nice choice of words: "a birth certificate not his birth certificate".

This counterfeit administration is so good at foistng counterfeits upon the masses.

30 posted on 04/29/2010 9:14:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: KMG365

But it’s a good thing because the media will have to cover it, and it will bring a lot more people in other states to demand to show his BC. But there is still the Natural Born Citizen thing, which he has already admitted he’s not. Also Mitt Romney is not a Natural Born Citizen. His father was born in Mexico.


31 posted on 04/29/2010 9:14:39 AM PDT by jarofants
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To: DonaldC
Just like clinton then.

I'm thinking more like Chavez or Castro.

ML/NJ

32 posted on 04/29/2010 9:15:29 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: fightinJAG

True.


33 posted on 04/29/2010 9:20:29 AM PDT by Grumpybutt
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To: jarofants
So your definition of natural born citizen means that one’s parents would ALSO have to be natural born citizens?

Are you trying to claim that a child born of two U.S. citizens on U.S. soil is not a natural born citizen if one of those parents is not ALSO a natural born citizen?

Do you know how few people would be natural born citizens by that definition? Almost nobody, because almost every American has at least one Grandparent, or Great-Grandparent who was not a natural born citizen; especially by your definition.

34 posted on 04/29/2010 9:25:17 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: allmendream
Hawaii says that their COLB listing a Hawaiian birthplace is proof of birth within their state, and under the “full faith and credit” clause, Texas is obligated to accept it. So if Texas had a law that specifically said COLB is NOT proof of birth in Texas, wouldn't Hawaii have to provide alternate proof under that same clause?
35 posted on 04/29/2010 9:31:30 AM PDT by Thurston_Howell_III (Ahoy polloi... where did you come from, a scotch ad?)
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To: Thurston_Howell_III
No. Texas would not have any power as far as dictating to another State how they need to authenticate or document birth within that State.

It is up to Congress to regulate what criteria is acceptable or unacceptable as far as their documents and procedures; and so far, Congress has made no ruling that a computer printout COLB doesn't satisfy their (and thus other States) requirements as far as proof of birth.

But I am sure you can get Pelosi and Reid right on that one! ;)

From the U.S. Constitution....

“Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.”

36 posted on 04/29/2010 9:40:01 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: allmendream

This is very big. VERY BIG.

Win or lose, this will be at the top of the news before 2012. If Texas wins their case, then Obama would have to throw that state. If they lose, then others will ask “Why?”

We won’t have another presidential election.


37 posted on 04/29/2010 9:55:05 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: allmendream

Is a Hawaii COLB accepted as proof of citizenship for other questions, such as getting a passport, etc.?


38 posted on 04/29/2010 9:59:59 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Celerity
This is not a court case it is a bill that will be a law if passed.

My point is that according to this law, a COLB from Hawaii DOH showing a Hawaiian place of birth would be sufficient to get on the Texas Presidential ballot.

We will have another Presidential election, in 2012.

39 posted on 04/29/2010 10:06:32 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Doug Loss
Yes, it is, according to the Hawaii DOH, the only sort of proof of birth that they issue.

According to the full faith and credit clause, other States have to accept a Hawaiian COLB as proof of birth. Until Congress rules that Hawaiian proof of birth, and or other State's proof of birth documents, do not meet the necessary requirements and rules that new procedures need to be in place - that will have to serve as Hawaii's document establishing proof of birth.

40 posted on 04/29/2010 10:09:09 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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