Posted on 05/01/2010 1:22:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
It means just as we thought it means. Members of the Kenyan government have said Obama is "Native to THIS soil" and another said when is Obama going to "repatriate himself" back to Kenya? Or when the Kenyan Minister of Lands Orengo said in March,
"...how could man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America?"
The Kenyan Minister Orengo without ambiguity clarified all those past statements that the Obots who have danced on the head of a pin trying in vain to spin them away.
Birthers laugh at and hold in contempt those who equate citizenship at birth with natural born citizenship.
We put in contempt the silly attempts to dissuade people from the overwhelming evidence that jus soli and jus sanguinis is what constitutes a natural born citizen.
Yet, birthers do essentially the same thing in attempting to equate our English, legal meaning of a phrase with its Kenyan cultural heritage meaning. Take the same care to understand the original intent of those Kenyan phrases.
We see you guys trying to tell us that 2 + 2 = 5, but we see with our own eyes that Obama is highly likely was born in Kenya from the statements that we have read and heard from in and out of the Kenyan government.
Copying Seizethecarp’s interesting comment just for the record.
To: Mr Rogers; Red Steel; little jeremiah; LucyT; BP2; rxsid; El Gato
“They claim Obama is ineligible for office because of his father - yet it was all known, and that argument rejected by the states, voters, McCain, the GOP, Sarah Palin, Coulter, Malkin, Rush, the Electoral College, Congress and ignored by the Supreme Court.”
I disagree. Failure to properly define and address an issue in a timely manner after full discovery of the facts (such as Obama’s intentionally withheld HI contemporaneous vital records and access to witnesses in Kenya and HI) does not equate to “that argument rejected by...”
Let me refer you to the following FR link:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2504335/posts?q=1&;page=1
At this link are links to four youtube videos by Dr. Ronald Polland in which he shows an extensive collection of webshots of news stories during the 2008 campaign.
The clear evidence from these webshots is that the Obama campaign and their MSM Factcheck and Politifact enablers successfully conducted a black propaganda psyops disinformation campaign against the US electorate which framed McCain’s NBC status as a BIG ISSUE and Obama’s NBC status as a NON-ISSUE (his precious “historic” candidacy was too good to check).
Obama may not have been a constitutional scholar but he and his campaign had years to get the jump on the media and opposition with claims that Wong Kim Ark was on-point with Obama’s public biography and was settled law.
The WKA ruling is not at all on point with Obama’s alleged bio and the ruling explicitly declines to define NBC, a statement likely inserted to refute the claim in the dissent that Wong was being made eligible to be president.
I am a little surprised that you have claimed to be amused by my suggestion that your posting pattern could raise suspicions. I am assuming that you are fully familiar with Army as well as CIA psyops.
“Psychological operations are planned operations to convey selected information and indicators to foreign audiences to influence their emotions, motives, objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of foreign governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.[1]”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_Operations_(United_States)
It has doubtless not escaped the attention of the Obama Admin. and DOD that troop morale is lower than desired and approval of Obama and confidence in his legitimacy is also slipping as the Afghanistan push approaches.
It is illegal for the Army and CIA to conduct psyops against US citizens except in cases of “emergency.” But the skill-set and experience in applying these political manipulation techniques is there in the Army and CIA personnel. At a minimum, when those personnel retire or are not actively deployed, their skills could be solicited and employed by non-government entities to manipulate target portions of the US public.
Entities who could be hiring retired or non-active psyops-trained Army/CIA personnel could be cut-outs with plausible deniablility to US govenment entities or funded by parties with specific agendas. These agendas could be political or economic.
Of concern to me are advisers close to Obama who have declared that “conspiracy theories” should be actively suppressed in the media and on the internet blogs using paid operatives to post comments refuting what the government determines to be conspiracy theories. There appears to be circumstantial evidence that bloggers and commenters who investigate theories and share them have even been targeted with trojan viruses to cripple their computers in a kind of internet sniper attack.
WKA has been the linchpin of what I consider to be the psyops campaign by Obama’s team and if the DOJ/DIA felt that protecting Obama’s legitimacy for the troops was an emergency, then protecting WKA becomes a fight to the death.
LTC Lankin’s act of conscience may have generated an underground wave of support in active duty troops both in internet buzz and financial contributions that the WH/DOJ/DOD may be monitoring.
It is not hard to anticipate that a psyops operation might have been launched to post comments on sites where Lakin has some support, such as FR. An operative with prior posting history would be perfect.
The psyops operatives would post comments that would attempt to mock Lakin by claiming that WKA is settled law and validates Obama’s legitimacy because SCOTUS and the political establishment could have contested Obama’s NBC status, but didn’t.
The psyops operative would attempt to delegitimize Lakin by accusing him of dishonorably attempting to avoid deployment.
Of course, this may have nothing to do with you.
420 posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 12:06:21 PM by Seizethecarp
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1. The arguments attacking those who question 0bama’s eligilibty have been dissected and taken apart repeatedly. Then, the same defeating arguments (what few there are, actually pretty sparse) are trotted out again and yet again.
2. Motivation is fair game. Some who are now gone were most likely hirelings; some posted or still post on DU - like MilSpecRob, posted on Politjab or whatever it’s called; he just got banned the other day. Others have admitted it’s fun to harass.
Actually many of the harassers have been banned. So I guess you’d say that they were all great guys and didn’t deserve it? Or they weren’t heroes like yourself? Just fake ones?
You claim that disucssing and researching about 0bama’s eligibility makes “us” (?) look like kooks and the harassers of those discussing it are now the Sanity Squad. I cannot even express my contempt at your arrogance. Old signup date means nothing. I’ve seen trolls as well as regular freepers with both early signup dates and few comments, or many.
Motive is fair game.
Non military Bob the Rob MilSpecRob got the axe?
Poor Non-MilSpecRob, he will be more happy blogging at the Dr. Conspiracy’s Forum. The home of the After-Birthers and largest gathering of FR zots that I know.
http://freerepublic.com/~MilspecRob/
There’s a forum just for FR zotted ones?
Posting history reveals all. Some forums you can edit posts already made; but not here!
The Loon Dr. CONspiracy who runs that website loves to brag about being banned from FR. Koyaan has blogged there, and about 2 others I have seen said in their posts admitted to being banned from FR...one I think said banned multiple times.
Good point... Pitch him out of the country.
Why should we have waited? My wife's citizenship is irrelevant to my son's status as a natural born citizen, as every passing day attests to.
Why should we have waited? My wife’s citizenship is irrelevant to my son’s status as a natural born citizen, as every passing day attests to.
ROGLMAO you actually believe you are fooling anyone with your one parent NBC? After Obama destroys the US you still think that “your wish” will come true 35 years from now? Do you really think we will have a future President who has foreign ties? Liberalism apparently does destroy logic and common sense. I hope you teach your son better than you have learned about life. After Obama, not just anyone will be able to become President, he has destroyed that notion.
Maybe someone will save your posts and in 35 years when little Drew runs for Pres they will show the world how you supported a Marxist with foreign ties as being eligible to be President.
Well deserved BTTT for the possible psyops motivation comment.
Thank you sir!
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