Stop immigration? You'd kill nation (THE "POPULATION BOMB" IS DEFUSED)

Chicago Sun-Times ^ | May 2, 2010 | NEIL STEINBERG Sun-Times Columnist

[Chi-townChief]

Interestingly, this fool Steinberg doesn't realize that no one is calling to "stop immigration." Mexico should probably open their border to all North Americans and if they can't run a decent country, we'll show them how.

[GeronL]

The left and MSM want to lump legals and legals in the same boat like they tried to do with embryonic and adult stem cells. “You are against stem cell research!”

Its part of the leftist strategy.

[KoRn]

The problem is our liberal culture has conditioned young White people to be totally against the concept of having children.

I’m younger, and I’ve seen it prevalent among other young people I’ve known. How ever, I believe my wife and I made up for their lack of pro-creation. lol

[max americana]

Yes, there are more than 10 million Americans unemployed and we want more of these uneducated, murderers who couldn’t even take care of their country in mexico which is now owned by the drug cartels and now they want to wreck this one..sounds like libtard “logic” to me.

[eclecticEel]

Yes, they do like to dumb down every conversation.

The author is also ignoring that even if we had no immigration at all, we wouldn’t be facing the type of demographic death spiral of places like Russia or Japan. For the moment at least, we still have a healthy birthrate; the leftists are just doing everything in their power to change that.

[Mr. Mojo]

this fool Steinberg doesn't realize that no one is calling to "stop immigration."

He knows that, but libs will never stop their tactic of omitting the "I-word" ("illegal") from the discourse.

[FrankR]

Sometimes a tree grows too fast, and you have to cut the tops out of the trees so the roots can catch up, lest it falls over.

The same here...we - IMHO - need to put a freeze on immigration and give the country time to "catch up" with a lot of things, like budgets, entitlements, and infrastructure.

Here we have an aging population of Baby Boomers that we're worrying about sustaining, because we're feeding and housing every illegal immigrant and their anchor babies that decide they have a "right" to come here.

These boomers worked all their lives and contributed to this country in sweat and money - and many with their lives for the wars fought to keep us free - and here we have an illegal alien in the White House wanting to euthanize people for the cime of getting old.

At the same time, he wants to trade our earned fortunes and sovereignty by handing it all to illegals, terrorists, and other malcontents of the "moocher" class for votes.

All this because the squirrly little bastard went into the "self help" section of some used book store and found a cobweb covered book called "Rules for Radicals" - probably traded in by Pentagon bomber, Bill Ayers - and thought the step-by-step instructions therein might lift him from his childhood confusion of who he was, and what he was.

We really need that "freeze" to give us time to sort out what we have, and organize a more efficient system (like getting the liberals out of any decision making offices), and take care of the problem. Then, and only then, we reopen immigration on a more restrictive and organized plane.

[highlander_UW]

Interestingly, this fool Steinberg doesn't realize that no one is calling to "stop immigration."

No kidding...in fact, on another board I was discussing immigration with a marxist liberal and I was telling him that I thought the legal immigration quotas were too low, and they should annually adjust indexed to the employment percentage in the US. I also pointed out the racist history of the current quota by nationality was (installed mostly be democrats, of course). The percentage allowed from various nations is indexed to the number of people from that nation already in the US. Of course this means we mostly get immigrants from one nation...and I was calling for more diversity. It's always fun to use liberals language against them.

[South40]

Stop immigration? You'd kill nation

BS. The opposite is true.

If the US was a lifeboat the left would still be pulling people from the world in despite it being near capsizing and they're not going to be happy until it does.

[rockinqsranch]

“He knows that, but libs will never stop their tactic of omitting the “I-word” (”illegal”) from the discourse.”

NOT JUST THE “I-word”, but most anything that requires omission to achieve their goal, their point. Lying by omission is SOP for the Leftists.

[Dr. Sivana]

Interestingly, this fool Steinberg doesn't realize that no one is calling to "stop immigration."

Most aren't, but Peter Brimelow certainly did.

[Jim W N]

The issue is and always had been ILLEGAL immigration. This country has and always will be a safe haven for LEGAL immigration. America loves her bona fide immigrants - they're usually the ones to understand America better than a lot of those who have been born here.

Illegal immigration is another story and must be dealt with decisively.

The demagogues mostly from the DemocRATic party love to amp up the confusion and deliberately stir up a world of confusion and strife if they can. That way the real issue - ILLEGAL immigration - gets lost in the shuffle.

Let's hope there are enough of us to stop the charade and deal decisively with shutting down borders to illegals. Those that are already here:

- In jail or legal trouble - deport immediately.

- The rest, give them a grace period time to come forward voluntarily & ID themselves, screen and deport uncaught criminals (other than they're illegal entry).

- Those that are left that have come forward are given the chance to what they would have to do to gain legal entry – apply and go though all the steps necessary. Those who refuse, deport immediately.

- After the grace period (a month or so), round thos who didn't come forward and kick them out. Hasta la vista baby, maybe, don’t forget to write, and next time try it the legal way.

[mewzilla]

A 10 minute vid on the subject that's well worth the time....

Immigration Gumballs

[Nosterrex]

For decades the MSM and liberals have been preaching a “culture of death” ideology in which abortion, birth control, and homosexuality have become sacraments. Now they are concerned about low birth rates!?! Emmanuel Kant believed that it was immoral to see people as a means rather than an ends. When someone makes the argument that we need immigrants in order to provide for our government promised entitlements, we are seeing them as a means. This is immoral. I doubt that that editor of Chi-Town ever studied ethics, only liberal ideology. Immorality leads to more immorality.

[raybbr]

I would like one of these liberal morons (or any open borders types here on FR) to explain to me how allowing 70 to 80 percent of our immigration, legal or illegal, to come from one demographic (hispanic) engenders diversity.

These people shout diversity at every social norm to try to dilute it yet when it comes to immigrants....

[Pusterfuss]

The same here...we - IMHO - need to put a freeze on immigration and give the country time to "catch up" with a lot of things, like budgets, entitlements, and infrastructure.

I would emphatically add assimilation to your list. Language and culture: Speak english, display the US flag. Celebrate July 4, not May 5.

[vladimir998]

What would help Japan is NOT more immigration but more JAPANESE children. The same goes for Italy. The same goes for us. If we didn’t cherish baby-killing and contraceptives so damn much we would be a stronger society all around.

[Touch Not the Cat]

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no one is calling to "stop immigration."

I am. Thee needs to be a twenty year moratorium while we deport the illegals who are here now.

[wintertime]

If I sometimes treat the anti-immigration crowd as if they're not only insane but anti-patriotic to boot,
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I do not know of a single conservative who is calling for an end to immigration. NOT EVEN ONE! Nearly all are concerned about uncontrolled **ILLEGAL** immigration! ( Is a “duh” necessary?)

Geeze! There are plenty of really smart and highly educated people with long lists of university degrees who are desperate to come to the U.S. And...They speak English, too! ( Better than many inner city high schoolers!) Let's let them come to the United States.

And...Americans are concerned about the immigrants who come to the U.S. and then immediately get on the welfare rolls. If there are immigrants who can come here and won't be on welfare, let's give them first priority.

[Vigilanteman]

Correct. A healthy debate on immigration is exactly what this country needs as long as the debate in on quality and numbers of legal immigrants.

Such a debate is impossible as long as illegal immigration is rampant and we have no control of our borders.

The liberal tactic of trying to combine the two is like equating house breakers with house guests. The former are, by definition, criminal and it is NOT a coincidence that a disproportionate number are also criminals in matters other than illegal entry.