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Stop immigration? You'd kill nation (THE "POPULATION BOMB" IS DEFUSED)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | May 2, 2010 | NEIL STEINBERG Sun-Times Columnist

Posted on 05/02/2010 11:43:59 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

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To: Jim 0216
I would even go so far as to say that illegal immigration isn't the hot button that we say it is. It's more that the illegal immigrants are simply not assimilating into American culture, but instead... demand we change to suit them.

Back in the early 1900’s, we had a similar situation with eastern European immigrants, many who jumped ship as soon as the boat came into the harbor. What made it less of a problem then was that those illegal immigrants didn't mooch off the government tit, learned English as soon as humanly possible, and saw our nation as that ‘shining city on a hill’ - something to be proud of and defend with all their power.

And if our current illegals did the same, I seriously doubt that this issue would be as big as it is. Illegal immigration is still illegal, but there would be less of a pressing need to do something *NOW* about it.

41 posted on 05/02/2010 3:15:55 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Most aren't, but Peter Brimelow certainly did.

Peter Brimelow is a hero of mind and I always rush to defend him. I'm 100% in Brimelow's corner. I think the guys a genius.

The subject of population growth and how it affects our civilization and culture is beyond the scope of this post. Suffice it to say that it doesn't get enough attention. I think it is at the core of many of our problems and many simply don't wish to address it.

In 1967, the population of the United States was 200 Million. By 2007, we passed 300 million. Now mind you that this growth was post baby boom. So the numbers are staggering. We added more people in 40 years than the largest country in Europe. Most of this increase has come from immigrants and the offspring of immigrants. This needs to be talked about and I don't know why we don't' get more posts on this on Free Republic.

We have a lot of FR Posters who are of the Ben Wattenburg, Julian Simon school that there is NO LIMIT to the population of the United States. The more the merrier. 4 billion, 5 Billion, hey no problem with these guys. Most sane people would recoil at the thought of the US population going over 1 Billion, but that's the course we are on. Hopefully this will become a topic in the future.
42 posted on 05/02/2010 3:31:54 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: truthguy

Agreed on Brimelow. If America is a “nation of immigrants” it’s also a nation of immigration timeouts, like the almost complete pause we had from 1924 to 1965.


43 posted on 05/02/2010 4:40:38 PM PDT by ruination
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To: Chi-townChief

A failure to distinguish between legal and illegal status in discussing immigration policy is evidence of intellectual dishonesty. To act as though it does not matter ignores both law and common sense.


44 posted on 05/02/2010 4:48:40 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Chi-townChief

1: I am sure that a lot of US citizens are not having children because the HELLHOLE that unchecked illegal immigration is turning large parts of this nation into. The chaos is turning it into something that many do want to procreate into. I don’t have children, so I can’t swear to this, but I “feeeeeeel” it is true, so I get my once a year liberal piece of nonsense. The amazing and pervasive lack of law enforcement and the apparent inability and unwillingness to do anything about it is something that makes people very nervous.

2: Does anyone really think that if somehow, someway, we got to the point where the alarm went out “OMG, we’re so badly underpopulated, we’re all gonna die!!” that we couldn’t say “QUICK!!! We need 10 million Mexicans within 90 days or the world is gonna end! Señoras y caballeros! Line up on El Border and we’ll let you in gratis that they wouldn’t come in?


45 posted on 05/02/2010 6:29:26 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Voters who thought their ship came in with 0bama are on their own Titanic.)
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To: Chi-townChief

1: I am sure that a lot of US citizens are not having children because the HELLHOLE that unchecked illegal immigration is turning large parts of this nation into. The chaos is turning it into something that many do want to procreate into. I don’t have children, so I can’t swear to this, but I “feeeeeeel” it is true, so I get my once a year liberal piece of nonsense. The amazing and pervasive lack of law enforcement and the apparent inability and unwillingness to do anything about it is something that makes people very nervous.

2: Does anyone really think that if somehow, someway, we got to the point where the alarm went out “OMG, we’re so badly underpopulated, we’re all gonna die!!” that we couldn’t say “QUICK!!! We need 10 million Mexicans within 90 days or the world is gonna end! Señoras y caballeros! Line up on El Border and we’ll let you in gratis that they wouldn’t come in?


46 posted on 05/02/2010 6:30:18 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Voters who thought their ship came in with 0bama are on their own Titanic.)
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To: Chi-townChief

Its all about the bodies..for the Wall St scams....which morph into claims on the treasury


47 posted on 05/02/2010 6:36:01 PM PDT by mo
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To: gogogodzilla
Yes, I root for those that have to jump ship and be rescued from a slave state to come here. And yes, those people are more patriotic than a lot of, if not most of, our home-grown Americans. The Eastern Europeans are looking for freedom FROM government, not government hand-outs, because they know that the flip side of what government does FOR you is what it does TO you.

The illegals from south of the border are a different story and are largely the product of corrupt leftist politics in America that seems to encourage their illegality and desire for government handouts. We should send those corrupt officials back with the illegals.

48 posted on 05/02/2010 6:48:02 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Chi-townChief

Makin babies is Patriotic !!

So now get to it, patriots. You know what you are supposed to do, right ?


49 posted on 05/02/2010 6:54:21 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Jim 0216

Yep. And that’s the root of the problem - the welfare culture that most of the modern illegals have. Their demands for America to change and meet their ideals... as opposed to the traditional view that immigrants need to change and meet OUR ideals.


50 posted on 05/02/2010 8:44:42 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Chi-townChief
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!


51 posted on 05/03/2010 8:30:13 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Chi-townChief

I’m not anti-immigration. I just want folks to do it the LEGAL way, not sneak in, in the dead of night, and set up anywhere they feel like it!


52 posted on 05/04/2010 6:05:52 PM PDT by SuziQ
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