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Microsoft's Internet Explorer losing browser share
bbc ^ | 5/4/10 | staff

Posted on 05/04/2010 1:38:10 PM PDT by Nachum

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To: Bigh4u2

oops.. I meant practically nothing works WITHOUT IE being installed.

:)


21 posted on 05/04/2010 1:57:19 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Red Badger

Safari rules. mmmm mmmm mmmmmm. one of the reasons we replaced the pc with our imac was that even with Firefox, we were being dropped, slowed and locked out although we were using webroot, and a bunch of other “products” costing between 30 and 50 dollars a pop. Symantec was a total disaster. it was frustrating. With the Imac we interface seamlessly with whatever we’ want. at present there is no need for costly protective as add-ons. (operative words are “at present.”) sd


22 posted on 05/04/2010 2:01:27 PM PDT by shotdog (I love my country; it's my government I'm afraid of.)
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To: K-oneTexas
“Now Microsoft needs to lose Operating System share also. Should have been found as what it was, a monopoly. Then busted into a minimum of 8 separate companies, a dozen or more would have been better, and barred from ever regrouping at a later date (like the Baby Bells buying each other out).”

Either you forgot the sarc> tag or are an imbecile and belong on DU.

What part of freedom do you not understand?

You advocate a government forced break-up of a company because they have the single best suite of integrated programs ever created?

Get a SERIOUS GRIP on what freedom means and leave the totalitarian musing off this fine board.

23 posted on 05/04/2010 2:03:17 PM PDT by Leo Farnsworth (I'm really not Leo Farnsworth.)
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To: icwhatudo
Any other firefox tips I might have missed???

I like using F6 to highlight the URL bar. Handy! Plus Adblock plus and Xmarks addons rule.

24 posted on 05/04/2010 2:04:55 PM PDT by Big Giant Head (Two years no AV, no viruses, computer runs great!)
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To: Nachum

Firefox


25 posted on 05/04/2010 2:05:47 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Nachum

I like Chrome quite a bit. Fast with extensions.


26 posted on 05/04/2010 2:10:39 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Nachum

I guess I just dont get it. Ie works fine for me.


27 posted on 05/04/2010 2:11:03 PM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how. But bloggers do.)
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To: icwhatudo

If you are not using the fastest fox addon I recommend you try it out. Ad block plus is also a must have.


28 posted on 05/04/2010 2:17:34 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Nachum

Actually, FF has stalled around the same figures for a long time and it’s Chrome that’s been gaining slowly over the other browsers.

Still, 59.9% of the browser market is quite an advantage for IE. The way FF has been going lately by getting bloated and slower, if they keep it up, they’ll never get over 25% of the browser market; in fact, I could see them losing market-share. And I surely will never go for the Chrome browser because it’s Google and I don’t trust Google with any of my information, and when it comes to information, most of it is now transacted over the internet.

For now, I use FF the most and IE for about 20% of the time.

However, what I’m developing is intended to work in all browsers; no bias there.


29 posted on 05/04/2010 2:17:37 PM PDT by adorno
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To: VaRepublican
I guess I just dont get it. Ie works fine for me.

Same here.

But, I got used to FF when I seemed to be having too many problems when IE6 was the prevalent browser, so I welcomed FF when it arrived and I've kept it as my main browser since then. However, I could easily switch back with no problems. But, I've also experimented with Opera and I'm more impressed with them than I am with FF or IE or Chrome or any other browser. Too bad they had to go and get the EU involved in the browser wars.
30 posted on 05/04/2010 2:22:05 PM PDT by adorno
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To: Psycho_Bunny

have you ever tried the f11 key?


31 posted on 05/04/2010 3:10:32 PM PDT by willyd (Tree planting is a zero sum game unless you find the seed on the sidewalk ;-))
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To: adorno

“And I surely will never go for the Chrome browser because it’s Google and I don’t trust Google with any of my information, and when it comes to information, most of it is now transacted over the internet.”

There you go. I cannot trust Google.


32 posted on 05/04/2010 3:22:41 PM PDT by dljordan (Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his office. ")
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To: Psycho_Bunny
6 was the last good version....back when it supported actual full screen browsing. Now none of the mainstream browsers do

Running Firefox 3.6.3. Just hit F11. Full Screen.
33 posted on 05/04/2010 3:38:55 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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To: icwhatudo
Any other firefox tips I might have missed???

Have you ever tried the "alt-f4" command?



34 posted on 05/04/2010 3:56:59 PM PDT by zeugma (Waco taught me everything I needed to know about the character of the U.S. Government.)
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To: zeugma
Have you ever tried the "alt-f4" command?

I haven't; what does it do, reformat my hard drive?

35 posted on 05/04/2010 4:05:04 PM PDT by CedarDave (Arrogant Obama on tax day protesters: "YouÂ’d think they would be saying 'Thank You!'.")
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To: CedarDave
I haven't; what does it do, reformat my hard drive?

No, I promise it doesn't do that. Try it now. And spoiler hint: Restart your browser afterwards.

36 posted on 05/04/2010 4:30:12 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Bigh4u2; Cheburashka; willyd
I knew I should have been more clear: IE, Firefox and Chrome are all semi-modal in full-screen, meaning that if you use auto-hide on the Windows taskbar, you can't move the mouse down to the bottom of the screen and have the taskbar pop-up. You have to minimize the browser or alt-tab, etc.

It's a usability flaw with all the browsers now....IE6 didn't do that. With 6, when you moved to the bottom of the screen, the taskbar popped up.

37 posted on 05/04/2010 4:41:59 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (The Quran and Mein Kampf: if you've read one you've read them both.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Chrome has more browser space than any other.


38 posted on 05/04/2010 4:49:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: AlanD
When Microsoft decided to become the dominant browser, most people didn't even know you could change your start page. This made MSN the default start page for most people.

They also had another little "feature" planned, that they ended up withdrawing because of a backlash that probably would have turned seriously ugly. They planned to use "keywords," which IE would turn into hotlinks to Microsoft partners. Here's how they envisioned it. IE would parse a document as it loaded, and if it found a keyword, like "digital camera" it would turn it into a hotlink to whichever digital camera manufacturer paid Microsoft the most money. Essentially, they planned to have hotlinked advertising on every web page, collecting the money, and giving none to the web page creator.

MS used a lot of their "negative engineering" tactics to make IE the dominant browser. They were one of the key contributors to the World Wide Web standards organization, but deliberately made Internet Explorer non-compliant. They realized that most programmers never read the W3 standards, and just started up IE and if it worked in IE, they knew they were good to go, as IE had a huge browser share. This made W3 compliant browsers look "broken."

MS became manic about making IE the dominant browser because they were convinced that whoever had the dominant browser would control the web. Once they figured out that browsers were going to be simply a vehicle for browsing content, and not a way to control it, they lost interest.

There was another reason they were so determined to kill Netscape. Netscape announced they were going to expand Navigator into a full operating system, using the web browser to browse local files. That's why MS welded the browser into the system and installed it by default. During this time period, they were quite a bit like King Herod, determined to kill competing companies before they could become a threat.

They're not nearly as jazzed about losing market share in the browser wars as they used to be.

39 posted on 05/04/2010 5:02:05 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: nickcarraway

Actually, if you know the move-navigation-to-the-menu-toolbar trick with Firefox, they end up with the exact same amount of viewing space.


40 posted on 05/04/2010 5:03:29 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (The Quran and Mein Kampf: if you've read one you've read them both.)
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