Posted on 05/06/2010 5:46:40 AM PDT by pabianice
No new subs? That isn't what Joe Courtney (D-CT) whose district includes Groton is saying. Received a push poll from his people the other night. After ten minutes of normal questions, I was asked, among other things, if I would be more included to support Courtney if I knew, among other things, he had been able to have two more subs built in Connecticut.
( I said absolutely not. Told the pollster Courtney is a socialist, votes with Pelosi and no matter what he claims to have done for this district, it doesn't matter. Obama and Democrats are destroying the country's future with their spending, taxes and entitlements)
Go Gates!
Go Obama!
Let our sailors learn to swim!
Let our flyers learn to flap!
O brave new world that has such wise men in it!
5.56mm
Those who beat their swords into plowshares plow for those who didn’t. God Help our Country!!
When liberals like Carter and Obama are in office, the military mission is to become a social experiment to integrate gays and women into combat roles. They need to spend money on adding new restrooms to ships - men, women, and “other”. Under Carter, the Navy started accepting people who couldn’t qualify on the ASVAB for any specialties. They used them as unrated painters. Unfortunately, what do you do with an E-5 when he’s been promoted and the only thing he’s qualified to do is paint? The Army was forced to accept people with criminal records. A large percentage of them continued their criminal activities while in the service.
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I would like to hear about fewer immigrants, fewer welfare checks, fewer illegitimate babbies, fewer food stamps, fewer Democrats, etc. .”””””
AMEN
How about fewer appeals for prisoners? Death row inmates living there for over 20 years is a travesty.
NICE GOING VOTERS!!!!! You can protect your own ass!”
When the crapola hits the fan here in the USA over NObama & this administration—nobody better dare showing up at my place looking for comfort or cover.
Won’t happen.
There will be a pile of bodies at my front gate before anyone gets inside.
I would like to hear about fewer immigrants, fewer welfare checks, fewer illegitimate babbies, fewer food stamps, fewer Democrats, etc. .”””””
AMEN
How about fewer appeals for prisoners? Death row inmates living there for over 20 years is a travesty.
“We are the world, we are the children”
“Come on people now, smile on your brotha’, everybody get together, try to love one another right now”
“This summer I hear the drummin...”
Well, if Barry and Bella are partying, doing drugs and can “see clearly”, maybe we all need to join in.
I am adding:
The ain’t the Garden of Eden
There ain’t no angels above
And things aren’t what they used to be
And this ain’t the Summer of Love.
If we can get control back from the dems, we are going to have to address the deficit and debt. I foresee a lot of painful cutting. Granted, as a constitutional mandate, DoD should be one of the last things cut, but even they will not be immune.
During the Vietnam War, McNamara created the “100,000 Program,” under which the Navy accepted people who were too stupid to pass the Navy’s basic IQ test. Many were alcoholics or had a criminal history. Such people immediately fell into the most menial rolls in the squadron. As Line Division Officer, they ended-up working for me. It was a disaster. They towed airplanes into the sides of hangars. They were UA and one of my guys simply deserted. Another decided he wanted a beer and drove his tractor through the base fence and into Cavite City to get one. Another was an alcoholic who had been thrown-out of the Army for his alcoholism, so naturally the Navy took him and allowed him to keep his rank (E-5). He missed movement back from the PI and showed-up a week later, still drunk. Each of these guys were called “Pink Pagers” because their personnel records started with a bright red page, warning the command of who and what they were under the “100,000 Program.” Along with Zumwalt being CNO at the time, the Navy was badly hindered in doing its job.
Some described Gates as the ultimate bureaucrat when he took the job under Bush, then stayed under Obama. And they were right.
The military is clearly not part of Ubama’s reparations agenda.
Whenever the AF recruiting goals lagged, someone would bring up the idea of lowering entrance requirements. The Navy’s 100,000 program was always the response. I didn’t realize that it was another McNamara policy. I’m surprised he didn’t force it on the AF like he did the F-111 and the M-16.
Navy over-reliant on ships?
Kind of like Soldiers and Marines over-reliant on bullets?
Or the Air Force over-reliant on planes?
As long as things stay conventional, they and other assets will be useful. But in an escalating nuclear conflict, you're right, they'll probably be goners, along with a lot of other stuff. That is the conundrum we face. We need both a credible nuclear deterrent and a strong conventional component. That takes money and my sense is that Bro and his boys aren't going to fund it. They have "other priorities" (i.e., welfare and lining up for "Obama Money").
Sooner or later (preferably sooner), the Nav is going to have to look at countering the threat the AIP subs pose to carrier groups. I know their range and time on (submerged) station is limited, but they add another dimension to quietness.
As long as things stay conventional, they and other assets will be useful. But in an escalating nuclear conflict, you're right, they'll probably be goners, along with a lot of other stuff. That is the conundrum we face. We need both a credible nuclear deterrent and a strong conventional component. That takes money and my sense is that Bro and his boys aren't going to fund it. They have "other priorities" (i.e., welfare and lining up for "Obama Money").
Sooner or later (preferably sooner), the Nav is going to have to look at countering the threat the AIP subs pose to carrier groups. I know their range and time on (submerged) station is limited, but they add another dimension to quietness.
I have two friends in the Army in Iraq. Both said that they weren't allowed to do weapons qual prior to deployment because of an ammo shortage. Pretty sorry state of affairs. It's nothing new, though. When I deployed for Desert Storm I hadn't fired an M-16 or M-9 in four years. Fortunately I kept proficient on my own weapons.
I bet the carriers would last longer than a Bomber base or missile sight.
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