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Court halts release of jailed militia members
hosted ^ | May 6 | ED WHITE

Posted on 05/06/2010 9:11:50 AM PDT by JoeProBono

DETROIT (AP) -- A federal appeals court has stopped the release of nine jailed Michigan militia members accused of conspiring to overthrow the U.S. government.

The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati issued an emergency stay Thursday morning.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fbi; hutaree; jpb; militia

1 posted on 05/06/2010 9:11:51 AM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

On what evidence?


2 posted on 05/06/2010 9:12:49 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: JoeProBono

I’m not so sure this bunch could overthrow a mouse trap.


3 posted on 05/06/2010 9:15:04 AM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has it limits.)
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To: JoeProBono
Early Wednesday, U.S. District Judge Victoria Roberts received word that she had been removed from consideration by the White House for appointment to a higher bench.
4 posted on 05/06/2010 9:18:30 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: JoeProBono

Well, they’re an entertaining looking bunch, ay?

Judging by their mug shots, it doesn’t seem as though a lot of thinking is going on in their noggins.


5 posted on 05/06/2010 9:19:04 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: GeronL

From the looks of them, overthrowing the US Govt might be a stretch. Then again, take a look at who is running the US Govt.


6 posted on 05/06/2010 9:21:15 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: JoeProBono

They need more time to manufacture something.


7 posted on 05/06/2010 9:22:12 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: oyez
I’m not so sure this bunch could overthrow a mouse trap.
I don't know. This guy looks like he could give a mouse or two a run for their money.

I hate meeces to pieces!
8 posted on 05/06/2010 9:23:13 AM PDT by Krankor (wELL SAID)
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To: JoeProBono

To the Supremes!


9 posted on 05/06/2010 9:24:25 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: JoeProBono

Looks like casting call for DELIVERENCE.......


10 posted on 05/06/2010 9:25:31 AM PDT by njslim
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To: The Toll

With no evidence, this administration WILL make sure that the fact that there is NOTHING here,

will be d-r-a-g-e-d o-u-t past, uh, lets see, oh, I know, November.

That’s it, November.


11 posted on 05/06/2010 9:25:54 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: reagandemocrat

12 posted on 05/06/2010 9:26:16 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: njslim

13 posted on 05/06/2010 9:28:20 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: TruthConquers

I can see the argument to the judge already:

Uh....your honor, here’s the thing. This was an order that came down from the White House, they wanted to send a message to the Tea Party people. Shortly after the White House launched it’s media campaign painting the Tea Partiers as violent they asked us to sweep in and hogtie these hillbilly freaks.

I’m sorry for all the confusion but it’s our first time framing anyone and we TOTALLY screwed it up! If they’re released for a lack of evidence some people may start to ask “why” they were arrested. We don’t have any explanation yet except to say “the White House asked us to arrest some white folks with guns.”


14 posted on 05/06/2010 9:32:48 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: The Toll

You’ve got that right!!!

They are going to make sure that this people, who probably did nothing, locked up as long as possible, and play their media game as long as they can.


15 posted on 05/06/2010 9:36:59 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: GeronL
On what evidence?

from the article

The members of the southern Michigan militia, called Hutaree, are charged with conspiracy to commit sedition, or rebellion, against the government and the attempted use of weapons of mass destruction. They have been in custody without bond since late March

Sedition is going to be one tough charge to support as it is my current understanding that all the “sedition” laws have been pulled off the books.

Attempted use of weapons of mass destruction? Umm, that is questionable as it depends on if they ever actually assembled anything, much less placed it anywhere with the intent of actually setting it off.

With the mentality of some LEO these days a weapon of mass destruction could consist of a double order of tacos and a pint of milk qualifying as the components and the resulting “gas release” indoors would count as the attempt.

Are the government prosecutors desperate to make this work despite the general lack of hard evidence indicating the “sedition” existed? Oh hell yea.

.

16 posted on 05/06/2010 9:58:59 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

Iraq had an army with tanks, jets and artillery and they had no WMD, so I assume this “weapon of mass destruction” is more powerful than anything Saddam had.


17 posted on 05/06/2010 10:01:25 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: JoeProBono

They look like your average everyday members of the democrat base to me.


18 posted on 05/06/2010 10:02:44 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell ( Always expect what's worse for America and her allies from "O" and he'll never disappoint you.)
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To: TLI

19 posted on 05/06/2010 10:06:07 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: GeronL
On what evidence?

Evidence??? Hah!

Amateur.

What kind of dictatorship cares about evidence?

20 posted on 05/06/2010 10:08:11 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: JoeProBono

Surreal.


21 posted on 05/06/2010 10:08:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (I don't believe in atheists.)
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To: TChris

ain’t that the truth


22 posted on 05/06/2010 10:13:46 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: Navy Patriot

talk about pissing a judge off, I have never seen someone getting bail get appealed by the Government. I am sure it has happened, maybe once in a blue moon. The feds are going to have a tough row to hoe coming up with a burden of proof to override the District Judge.


23 posted on 05/06/2010 10:17:11 AM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: TLI
-- Sedition is going to be one tough charge to support as it is my current understanding that all the "sedition" laws have been pulled off the books. --

I think the charge will be impossible to prove, but not because there is no law on the books. See 18 USC 2384 - Seditious conspiracy.

-- Attempted use of weapons of mass destruction? Umm, that is questionable as it depends on if they ever actually assembled anything, much less placed it anywhere with the intent of actually setting it off. --

The indictment lacks allegation of specifics that support this one, but does say that the group had IED / pipe bomb plans and components. The statute includes "conspiracy" as an offense. See 18 USC 2332a(a)(2)

A person who, without lawful authority, uses, threatens, or attempts or conspires to use, a weapon of mass destruction ...
-- Are the government prosecutors desperate to make this work despite the general lack of hard evidence indicating the “sedition” existed? Oh hell yea. --

I was shocked that the District Court judge ordered a conditional release. The government usually works in harmony on this sort of case.

24 posted on 05/06/2010 10:19:04 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: oyez

The arrest of the Hutarees was meant to be the ‘two’ and a ‘one-two’ punch, with the alleged spitting on and using the n-word to black congressmen by Tea Party demonstrators the ‘one’. That’s why the Feds acted before they had the goods. The timing was right for their purposes.


25 posted on 05/06/2010 3:58:38 PM PDT by carola
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To: JoeProBono

Joe Biden plays a banjo?


26 posted on 05/06/2010 4:02:02 PM PDT by carola
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To: carola

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tqxzWdKKu8


27 posted on 05/06/2010 4:12:40 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Thanks!


28 posted on 05/06/2010 4:53:12 PM PDT by carola
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To: TLI
With the mentality of some LEO these days a weapon of mass destruction could consist of a double order of tacos and a pint of milk qualifying as the components and the resulting “gas release” indoors would count as the attempt.

Or shut them down as an environmental menace.

29 posted on 05/06/2010 6:54:07 PM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has it limits.)
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