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Palin bucks the tea parties, endorses Carly Fiorina (DeVore spokesman responds)
Washington Post ^ | May 6, 2010 | David Weigel

Posted on 05/06/2010 7:02:49 PM PDT by FTJM

Way back in November, right after announcing her bid for the U.S. Senate in California, Republican candidate and former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina told conservatives in Washington that she "shared Sarah Palin's values." Today, Palin returns the favor.

Carly is the Commonsense Conservative that California needs and our country could sure use in these trying times. Most importantly, she’s running for the right reasons. She has an understanding that is sorely lacking in D.C. She’s not a career politician. She’s a businesswoman who has run a major corporation. She knows how to really incentivize job creation. Her fiscal conservatism is rooted in real life experience. She knows that when government grows, the private sector shrinks under the burden of debt and deficits. We can trust Carly to do the right thing for America’s economy and to make the principled decisions she has throughout her professional career.

Fiorina, who's struggled a bit to regain front-runner status in the primary race since former congressman Tom Campbell entered it, has collected endorsement after endorsement from national conservative groups -- especially anti-abortion rights groups. The most conservative candidate in the race, Assemblyman Chuck DeVore, has been endorsed by Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) and the Tea Party Express, so there you go if you're looking for a story of "tea party infighting."

UPDATE: DeVore spokesman Joshua Trevino reacts:

Sarah Palin's endorsement brings with it tremendous media attention, but not necessarily votes. Conservative activists in California know and like Chuck DeVore -- and that's our bottom line.

I think the best I can do is point you toward the responses from the conservative base on Palin's Facebook page, and on Twitter: there's a lot of them respectfully but firmly telling the former Governor that she's been misled here. And they're right.

(Excerpt) Read more at voices.washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca2010; carly; carlyfiorina; chuckdevore; devore; fiorina; palin; palinforfiorina; palinfreeperping; sarahpalin
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1 posted on 05/06/2010 7:02:50 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: FTJM
Sarah Palin has something to say to the "nattering nabobs of negativity" ... LOL ...

Palin Endorses Pro Life, Traditional Marriage, Military, Anti-Amnesty & 100% NRA Rated Carly Fiorina

Governor Palin is Right that Carly Fiorina is the Best Choice for California Conservatives


2 posted on 05/06/2010 7:03:54 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: FTJM

In this state, Fiorina has a better chance to beat Boxer. She’s not as conservative as DeVore but she can win, and she’s a helluva lot better than Boxer.


3 posted on 05/06/2010 7:04:38 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: FTJM
Joshua Trevino: “Carly Fiorina thinks she can find the sheepdog to corral the sheep. Chuck DeVore knows they’re not sheep at all. They’re Americans. And they’ll make their own decisions.”

OH SNAP! Right on Joshua :-)

4 posted on 05/06/2010 7:05:25 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Chuck DeVore for U.S. Senate; Sam Aanestad for Lt. Governor; No on Prop 14)
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To: Star Traveler

Ummmm Fiorina is pro-Amnesty so Palin is lying. She just called anybody that was for the AZ law a racist.


5 posted on 05/06/2010 7:08:02 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: FTJM

I agree with Palin. Tom Campbell is a Rino, and he has voted the wrong way often. Carly is a better choice.


6 posted on 05/06/2010 7:10:44 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Minus_The_Bear
You were saying ...

Ummmm Fiorina is pro-Amnesty so Palin is lying. She just called anybody that was for the AZ law a racist.

You've got the wrong information about her being "pro-amnesty".... I think you're confusing a "methodology" with an "issue" -- and they are two different things.

She is definitely not pro-amnesty ... See this from ...

Palin Endorses Pro Life, Traditional Marriage, Military, Anti-Amnesty & 100% NRA Rated Carly Fiorina

Jan Evans: Carly Fiorina has been endorsed by the National Right to Life, the California Pro-Life Council, and the Susan B. Anthony List. She is pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, pro-military, and pro-strict border security and against amnesty. She is against Obamacare and will vote to repeal it and prevent the government takeover of private companies and industries.

7 posted on 05/06/2010 7:14:25 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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The fallacy of CA Pro-Life Council’s Endorsement of Carly Fiorina...

...in a conversation to with the San Francisco Chronicle editorial board, Fiorina affirmed that she was personally pro-life, but reiterated her support for Sotomayor, saying, “I do not believe where a potential judicial nominee stands on that issue [of abortion rights] is a qualifier or an unqualifier.”

(snip)

She then went on to characterize the entire American pro-life movement as essentially a waste of time, saying: “[M]any, many voters are going to conclude while that is a very important issue, it is frankly a decided issue. The law is clear in the state of California, where there is a constitutional guarantee to the right to an abortion. So why are we talking about a theoretical issue?”

more: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2506615/posts

“Sen. Feinstein has been a fine senator for the state of California, and has accomplished a great deal. I would describe her as a pragmatic problem-solver,” Fiorina told Chronicle reporters and editors during an interview with the newspaper’s editorial board. “I admire her, I respect her. I like her. I think and I hope she would say the same about me.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2486345/posts

FACT CHECK ON FIORINA’S BAILOUT REVISIONISM:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2445159/posts

Carly Fiorina praises Jesse Jackson and the Rainbow Coalition:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2434527/posts

Fiorina draws ire of right with praise for Rev. Jesse Jackson, push for more women in politics

“In the past 40 years, there are very few people who have used their talent ... to achieve more things for more people in more places than Reverend Jackson,” she said in a 2003 speech posted on HP’s Web site. “And we are all better off for his leadership.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2435309/posts


8 posted on 05/06/2010 7:14:36 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Chuck DeVore for U.S. Senate; Sam Aanestad for Lt. Governor; No on Prop 14)
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To: Signalman

Tell me, why is it that RINOS are always being said to have a better chance of winning?


9 posted on 05/06/2010 7:16:57 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

She’s got a good point there, in that it’s not in the justices themselves, and we do have a long history of the law so far, unfortunately — and the fact of the matter is that it’s entirely legal, whether you or I or anyone else likes it.. The solution is in a Constitutional Amendment... and it’s not in a Supreme Court justice.

So, you want to dismiss the entire California Pro-Life Council Endorsement, because you disagree with a methodology she has for the Pro-life issue... LOL ...

And I’ve always thought the solution was in a Constitutional Amendment, too ... so, I suppose that means I’m not pro-life either ... :-)


10 posted on 05/06/2010 7:19:10 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Ummmm Fiorina is pro-Amnesty so Palin is lying. She just called anybody that was for the AZ law a racist.

First McAmnesty and know Fiorina. Palin is attracted to the pro amnesty crowd.
11 posted on 05/06/2010 7:20:02 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Huh? Trevino needs to lay off the bottle.


12 posted on 05/06/2010 7:20:09 PM PDT by coaltrain
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To: freekitty
You were saying ...

Tell me, why is it that RINOS are always being said to have a better chance of winning?

When I see someone like this candidate being endorsed and see the following ...

Jan Evans: Carly Fiorina has been endorsed by the National Right to Life, the California Pro-Life Council, and the Susan B. Anthony List. She is pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, pro-military, and pro-strict border security and against amnesty. She is against Obamacare and will vote to repeal it and prevent the government takeover of private companies and industries.

Then I want to see that candidate get the most votes possible, and beat the opposition. And if that means that you call this kind of candidate a RINO, then perhaps you're looking for the candidate with the least possibility of winning, as your main criteria ... LOL ...

13 posted on 05/06/2010 7:21:57 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Let me ask you a question then. Has Fiorina advocated a Constitutional Amendment on the matter?


14 posted on 05/06/2010 7:23:20 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Chuck DeVore for U.S. Senate; Sam Aanestad for Lt. Governor; No on Prop 14)
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To: freekitty

“Tell me, why is it that RINOS are always being said to have a better chance of winning?”

Not always, but in lib states, hard core conservatives can’t win statewide office. And Rinos are more palatable to the general population. It seems relatively straight forward.


15 posted on 05/06/2010 7:23:37 PM PDT by coaltrain
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To: Star Traveler

Good for Fiorina.


16 posted on 05/06/2010 7:24:08 PM PDT by Pinetop (Yoo, Executive Power, Constitution, History)
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To: FTJM

Looks like I will have to disagree with Sarah once again with the other being McQueeg. I still support Chuck Devore. In the end I may well vote for Fiorina over Boxer. But for now Chuck it is.


17 posted on 05/06/2010 7:24:32 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: coaltrain

Trevino is a solid Conservative (Ex-RedState)! You really ought to listen to him and explore his arguments - not disregard them outright.

Don’t listen to only these here - read up on all candidates.


18 posted on 05/06/2010 7:24:39 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Man50D; Al B.; Clyde5445; onyx; Virginia Ridgerunner
You were saying ...

Palin is attracted to the pro amnesty crowd.

I think the idea that Sarah Palin is pro-amnesty is something that is "trotted out" every chance the "Palin-haters" get to do it ... LOL ...

That's already been covered before ... but you probably weren't listening and probably won't now either ... :-)

19 posted on 05/06/2010 7:24:47 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: FTJM

So much for the Palin fan club.


20 posted on 05/06/2010 7:28:37 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: FTJM

California only elects women or girly-men but NEVER MEN. Testosterone poses a threat to the pansy leftists in control (Fem-bot teachers Unions, etc.).


21 posted on 05/06/2010 7:28:39 PM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: CounterCounterCulture
You were saying ...

Let me ask you a question then. Has Fiorina advocated a Constitutional Amendment on the matter?

Well, let me say that I also see that the Supreme Court Justices themselves aren't the problem, and I see also that it's legal and it's been a settled issue for decades now, in the law, and I also see that it's theoretical unless you get the law changed -- and so -- my solution is a Constitutional Amendment...

Now, since I'm thinking along the same lines as she is -- I would imagine that she would also support a Constitutional Amendment to that effect, just like I would.

But, you can surely ask her and see if she would support one. That would be a good question...

Otherwise, she's "right in line" with the very same thinking I have on the matter, too...

22 posted on 05/06/2010 7:29:09 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
That's already been covered before ... but you probably weren't listening and probably won't now either ... :-)

And the Sarahbots are given the same facts from an interview Amnesty where she admitted supporting amnesty without trying to appear as though she does support amnesty but you obviously choose to ignore that point because it doesn't fit your picture perfect conservative concept of Palin. Her endorsement of a second pro amnesty candidate only reaffirms her position.
23 posted on 05/06/2010 7:30:01 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: FTJM

I’m pretty certain that the candidate Boxer fears the most is Fiorina. DeVore is the one she wants to run against because he can’t win statewide, not in California. Fiorina, a moderately conservative candidate, and a woman, is a double-whammy that Boxer will have a hard time defeating.


24 posted on 05/06/2010 7:30:07 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: gunsequalfreedom
You were saying ...

So much for the Palin fan club.

Ummm... what? You want to dismiss the rank and file home-grown American? LOL ...

You've got a large group of Americans to dismiss, then ... :-)

25 posted on 05/06/2010 7:30:42 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Sarah, we have a warning:

You are of course playing within the world political power structure. You are a public darling, we have liked most of your values, but you are certainly no say Allan Mullaly, CEO of Ford, or Bert Rutan of aviation genius, or in the league of certain creative minds.

The last thing you should be doing to help your country is endorsing any political aspirant of BIG EGO, like John McCain, or apparently, Carly Fiorina (a flop at HP).

These personalities, like Barack Obama, are the problem. They circumvent the talent of enterprise. It is the arrogance that imposes the tragedies of government manipulation. How obvious is it?

Big business, or even the military, is NO guarantee whatsoever on what is necessary. You might be misguided in character selection.

Johnny Suntrade

26 posted on 05/06/2010 7:31:05 PM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: Man50D
The problem is that neither she is ... nor the candidate that she's endorsed ... LOL ...

Aside from those little pesky facts, you would probably be right ... :-) ...

[ ... that's kinda like saying "It would be dark if it weren't daytime ... LOL ... ]

27 posted on 05/06/2010 7:33:11 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: jnsun
Sarah's answer ... Post #2 ... :-)
28 posted on 05/06/2010 7:34:29 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: FTJM

Fiorina is no less of a RINO than Devore. I have no idea why conservatives are jumping on his bandwagon.


29 posted on 05/06/2010 7:34:37 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: FTJM

You want to know my favorite thing about short-haired, male dogs? See, I’ve never owned a male bulldog-type canine until recently.
I can understand why you would be reluctant to respond so I’ll just come right out and say it.
It’s the nutsack.
Unlike a terrier or other more hirsute-type dog, the junk, well, it’s all right out there, know what I mean?
My American bulldog pup, 6 months, jogging along with his balls the size of apricots bouncing up and down. It kind of gives him this I-don’t-care/what-you-see-is what-you-get attitude.
Kinda reminds me of the way Sarah Palin used to be (except, of course, hers were higher u), before she rented them out.

I’m thinking of changing his name to `Governor Jan.’


30 posted on 05/06/2010 7:35:12 PM PDT by tumblindice (Anything found on these premises at night will be found in the morning.)
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To: Star Traveler

She supports a path to citizenship. You know that.


31 posted on 05/06/2010 7:39:17 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Humm, I don't like Carly but heard her say the opposite to that.
32 posted on 05/06/2010 7:39:17 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: Man50D; Star Traveler
And the Sarahbots are given the same facts from an interview Amnesty where she admitted supporting amnesty without trying to appear as though she does support amnesty but you obviously choose to ignore that point because it doesn't fit your picture perfect conservative concept of Palin. Her endorsement of a second pro amnesty candidate only reaffirms her position.

The other day, ST was also pimping for soft-on-illegal immigration candidate BJ Lawson (4th district NC) over solidly anti-illegal immigration candidate Frank Roche. I'm detecting a pattern.

33 posted on 05/06/2010 7:50:25 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: FTJM

I love this thread. Hopefully, all those on this thread with strong opinions will be able to put their grudges aside and vote for whoever wins the Republican nomination. Boxer must go!


34 posted on 05/06/2010 7:51:14 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: Star Traveler

I think the idea that Sarah Palin is pro-amnesty is something that is “trotted out” every chance the “Palin-haters” get to do it ... LOL ...
___________________________________________________________________________________________

So it’s come to this: If anybody voices concerns about Palin’s decisions such as her support of the “Maverick” RINO McCain, we’re now called “Palin-haters?” Are you serious?

This is very troubling that some on our side will tolerate no legitimate criticizm of Palin. How does this blind allegiance make us any different than some of the Obamabots?

This cult of personality is really disturbing.


35 posted on 05/06/2010 7:51:26 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Star Traveler
The issue is how serious is Carly Fiorina's pro-life advocacy. I've read how she explained her stance on the matter: That's all well and good as that goes.

But we want to know if she's merely paying us lip service to secure the Republican nomination?

Imagine if a slavery abolitionist such as Frederick Douglass during Antebellum America had stated "while that is a very important issue, it is frankly a decided issue."

Or imagine him saying, “I do not believe where a potential judicial nominee stands on that issue (of slavery) is a qualifier or an unqualifier.”

(the above quotes being Carly's quotes in regard to the abortion issue, modified only to fit the times of Douglass)

It would be ludicrous that an advocate would be so cavalier about the process.

That kind of mere dismissal of the Supreme Court nomination process is part of the problem. You can scoff that something is settled, then the next ruling does something even more atrocious (slavery: Dred Scott ruling; abortion: perhaps the reversal of the partial birth abortion ban)

I would certainly welcome a Constitutional Amendment regarding Personhood of the preborn, as is being attempted in some states right now. In the meantime, this current Supreme Court or the subsequent one once Obama gets his future nominee cleared, can continue to thwart states' attempts.

Those who give a pass to leftist jurors (and it's not just abortion they are wrong on) are not doing us any favors. If Carly's merely quipping it's a "decided issue" or a "theoretical issue," she is not an advocate for the pro-life movement, and the so-called pro-life groups that endorsed her ought to be ashamed.

36 posted on 05/06/2010 7:56:40 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Chuck DeVore for U.S. Senate; Sam Aanestad for Lt. Governor; No on Prop 14)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

What was your previous screen name?


37 posted on 05/06/2010 8:06:26 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: freekitty

I don’t understand it either, strong conservatives have dominated California politics for decades. NOT

With over 65% of the voters in California identifying themselves as either liberal or middle of the road (of course they are nutjobs). I am not sure a strong conservative could muster much more than 35% of the vote. Rational thought suggests there are places in the country that do not have a conservative slant.

And yes we have to settle for less by running the best opponent even if it means incremental improvement; that’s just a fact of life. I hate it and I am sure a lot of others do too. But life and politics are never fair.


38 posted on 05/06/2010 8:19:54 PM PDT by BushCountry (scratch here ############################### to reveal my thoughts on the Obama Administration.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

So basically, Fiorina is another ...

1) get along
2) go with the flow
3) pro-establishment
4) don’t rock the boat

... RINO.


39 posted on 05/06/2010 8:26:32 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or attacked from outside during armed revolt.)
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Yawn.....remember the big hubbub when Palin endorsed Rand Paul? Some folks got their panties in a wad.

No matter who Palin picks, someone is going to be POed. The anti-Palin drones are getting predictable.


40 posted on 05/06/2010 8:29:16 PM PDT by ak267
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To: BushCountry

They can be changed with the right people.


41 posted on 05/06/2010 8:31:47 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Star Traveler

That’s bs. We have been trained to think RINOS are our only hope.


42 posted on 05/06/2010 8:33:00 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Star Traveler

Michelle Malkin » Carly Fiorina channels Dede Scozzafava, wields ...Nov 23, 2009 ... Carly Fiorina channels Dede Scozzafava, wields race/gender card ... stock press photo with her current salt & pepper butch lesbian haircut. ...
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/11/23/carly-fiorina-channels-dede-scozzafava-wields-racegender-card-against-conservative-rival/


43 posted on 05/06/2010 8:34:49 PM PDT by restornu
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To: freekitty

I wouldn’t be upset if DeVore won the primary. But he is the much larger gamble to win with very little campaign cash and little political momentum swinging his way. But wouldn’t be something if he did?


44 posted on 05/06/2010 8:47:30 PM PDT by BushCountry (scratch here ############################### to reveal my thoughts on the Obama Administration.)
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To: Star Traveler
A blind infatuation of the California Republican party and now apparently Palin is that the party needs a woman businessperson as a candidate.

If they that candidate is a competent woman businessperson, fine - makes no difference. But has anyone looked at what Fiorina did to HP and for that matter what Whitman did at ebay?

45 posted on 05/06/2010 8:49:21 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: FTJM

Arnold


46 posted on 05/06/2010 8:49:41 PM PDT by ocr1 (really?.. Really?)
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To: FTJM

Do yourselves a favor, get over Sarah NOW. She tipped her hand when she decided to support one of the most dangerous men in the country for re-election, Juan the Republican Party Terminator McCain.


47 posted on 05/06/2010 8:52:05 PM PDT by boocoowell (Nuclear power now for crying out loud)
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To: mlocher
I love this thread. Hopefully, all those on this thread with strong opinions will be able to put their grudges aside and vote for whoever wins the Republican nomination.

Despite my earlier comments, I will look at Fiorina's positions more carefully and reserve judgement.

If it comes to a choice between voting for Whitman and staying home, I'll stay home.

48 posted on 05/06/2010 8:53:06 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: boocoowell

That won’t sit too well with the Palin Amen Chorus.


49 posted on 05/06/2010 9:03:28 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: Star Traveler
You've got a large group of Americans to dismiss, then ... :-)

Her time at HP would seem to disqualify her. Yet she will be held up by the CRP as a successful business icon in what passes as political campaigns these days. No wonder we get surprises like Arnold. No wonder California Republicans keep losing elections.

Others have said it on here. Why do we have to go along with the RINOs? It has not worked after many, many years. Do you need any more proof. All it has done is kept the country club set in power and the rest of us cheerleading saps.

I was not dismissing anyone, only making a statement on what I viewed the reaction will be. It was actually wishful thinking that one day the base of the Republican party will come to its senses.

50 posted on 05/06/2010 9:13:23 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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