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The Taserification of America
philly.com ^ | 05/06/2010 | philly.com

Posted on 05/06/2010 9:22:20 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

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To: Blue Jays
It's a predictable result of giving cops Tasers.

Let's assume I'm a cop. I'm chasing some guy of unknown mental stability, with the intent of subduing and arresting him. I can either tackle him at risk of injury to myself if he decides to put up a fight, or I can Taser him and have no risk of injuring myself. Hmmm, I think I'm going to Taser him.

If you give a cop a device than will bring down a perp, and using the device has no career-damaging effects on the cop (unlike shooting the perp with a real gun would), the cop will use his little handy device at every opportunity.

41 posted on 05/07/2010 2:42:42 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: mojito

I agree, a leftist screed. This is the same mentality that says it’s OK for illegals to run across the border.

Why bother stopping anybody from doing anything? I guess we should just all sit back and enjoy the anarchy show. Probably more exciting than the baseball game.


42 posted on 05/07/2010 4:11:21 AM PDT by Cap'n Crunch (Rush Limbaugh, the Winston Churchill of our time)
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To: Blue Jays
Watching that kid get Tasered was absolutely hilarious! He dropped onto the playing field like a sack of potatoes.

As another Freeper said on a thread earlier this week, watching that cop chase down and taser that guy was like watching an episode of "Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom." I loved it!

43 posted on 05/07/2010 4:17:34 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: mojito
You are right-on with your observations. Until officers have a way determining quickly and correctly the intentions of someone the blame has to fall on the victim. Sounds cruel I guess, but of all the people on the field only one person knew for sure what this person had in mind and he wasn't sharing it with the cops, the umpires or the players.

A situation has to be handled with respect to the potential it presents. Once the officers were in pursuit of the guy they were responsible for the outcome of the incident. In retrospect the use of the taser seems a bit over-reaching. But if he had pulled a knife and stabbed a player or official the officers would have been roundly criticized.

We have completely lost the idea that when someone does something they, and they alone, are responsible for what happens to them. This kid could avoided all of this by either not running onto the field, or not making them chase him.

As for tackling him those who advocate that have probably seen too many movies and TV shows. It's not as simple a matter as presented in the script, especially for an officer wearing a good deal of equipment.

Nope, the guy set the whole thing in motion and presented the cops with a potentially dangerous situation. They responded based on the worst that could happen, it frequently costs them dearly to respond based on the best they could expect.

In retrospect, the officer could have handled the situation without the taser. But it's darn hard to chase someone on foot and at the same time get out your retrospectrocope and determine what you're really facing.

44 posted on 05/07/2010 4:25:58 AM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: DB

I don’t know if it has to do with the feminization of the force, although that’s an interesting point to bring up and could be contributing to the taser-happy attitude which seems to be the rule today.

What concerns me a little more was the fact that no security personnel were able to outrun the kid and tackle him? Granted, the kid isn’t wearing a utility belt with 10-20 pounds of tools on it like a police officer but it seems at least one officer or security guy would have been fit enough to chase him down.

It reminds me of the story a short while ago where a suspect was fleeing from a pursuing officer. Turns out the officer was a marathon runner and was able to keep up. The suspect eventually just gave up when he realized that he would tire out before the officer would.


45 posted on 05/07/2010 4:59:34 AM PDT by Crolis ("Nemo me impune lacessit!" - "No one provokes me with impunity!")
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

That’s not what I said at all. Please try again...


46 posted on 05/07/2010 5:24:54 AM PDT by Bean Counter (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office -- Aesop)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Sorry, but - no.

I also watched the video of that stupid kid when he ran onto the field. If they shouldn’t have used a Taser on him, fine, but then he should have stopped running away from them. He was obviously committing a crime. If you think the Taser hurts, imagine how it feels when six cops tackle you and twist your arms behind your back, jamming your face and your knees into the ground so you can’t bite them, punch them, or kick them while they take you into custody. Arms, legs, and jaws get broken that way.

Or are you suggesting that they should have chased him around the field until he got tired of it and surrendered? Exactly how many times are they supposed to yell, “Stop,” before they can decide that the kid is not going to stop?

As to McCain, he’s a moron. We have a huge problem with illegal aliens. Literally millions of them came from Mexico or came through there. They speak Spanish and look like they’re from there. If we had a huge problem with Norwegian grandmothers bankrupting our country while smuggling drugs across the border, we’d be looking for people who eat lutefisk during Advent.

Incidentally, if you go to New York or Boston, you’ll find loads of Polish, Russian, and Irish illegal aliens. And yes, I.C.E. loves to raid construction sites and bust the day laborers there. But they haven’t got a racist lobby in Washington and a stupid senator to support them, so out they go.


47 posted on 05/07/2010 5:30:59 AM PDT by sig226 (Mourn this day, the death of a great republic. March 21, 2010)
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To: sig226

If given a choice of taking me down, I would choose the tazer.

We used to practice on each other, and having 5 guys on your back even when they know it is practice hurts like a son of a #$%^%^. Not only that, I was sore for two weeks.


48 posted on 05/07/2010 9:15:19 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Tasers are better than cattle prods, they have range.


49 posted on 05/07/2010 9:18:10 AM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: discostu

The Socialization of America and the world is to convert/strip human beings of their humanity and have them become animals. Then you treat them as such and the taser is a part of that process.


50 posted on 05/07/2010 9:30:41 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (?)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I don’t see any true difference in humanity between tackling a guy and holding him down to cuff him and tasing him to cuff him. Down is down, live stock get hauled down by physical force too.


51 posted on 05/07/2010 9:42:05 AM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: Carley
The gleeful reaction to the tasering of that young man is as sickening as the tasering itself.

There is some serious lack of humanity going on here.

Same reaction here. Likewise, as sickening as it was when that thug stuck the machine gun in Elian's face, I could comprehend the Clinton regime being capable of that. But the next few days it became clear that most Americans thought it was great! Something has happened to the souls of Americans. I'd blame two generations of abortion on demand, but that's just me.

52 posted on 05/07/2010 10:00:58 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I'd rather be Plaxico Burress than Sean Taylor)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

You are correct. If we think it’s okay to murder our unborn babies, then it’s okay to do violence to those already here.

Breaks my heart.


53 posted on 05/07/2010 10:07:54 AM PDT by Carley (WE CAN SEE NOVEMBER FROM OUR HOUSE)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

How many other fans have been tasered that were NOT comitting a crime, misdemeanor or not?


54 posted on 05/07/2010 10:09:26 AM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Bottom line:

Local police, fascist pigs;
federal police, the Volkspolitzei ("People's Police").

55 posted on 05/07/2010 10:14:11 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . Uqera'tem deror ba'aretz, lekhol yosheveyha . . .)
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To: discostu

It’s when people aren’t acting like animals that are getting tased is when it becomes a problem.


56 posted on 05/07/2010 10:21:46 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (?)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

And again that applies equally to any other kind of force. If a person isn’t being a criminal and gets tackled by the cops it’s a bad thing.


57 posted on 05/07/2010 10:25:00 AM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: All

next to come up.....the “tazer-phaser” for you trekers.


58 posted on 05/07/2010 7:54:21 PM PDT by ak267
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