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Mosque to go up near New York's ground zero
CNN ^ | May 7, 2010 | Nicole Bliman

Posted on 05/07/2010 12:53:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Plans to build a mosque two blocks away from ground zero have set off an emotional debate among area residents and relatives of victims of the September 11, 2001 terror attacks.

Cordoba House project calls for a 15-story community center including a mosque, performance art center, gym, swimming pool and other public spaces.

The project is a collaboration between the American Society for Muslim Advancement and the Cordoba Initiative, both of which work to improve relations with followers of the religion.

The two groups presented their vision to part of the Community Board of lower Manhattan on Wednesday night.

Ro Sheffe, a board member who attended the meeting, said the project did not need to get the board's approval.

"They own the land, and their plans don't have any zoning changes," Sheffe said. "They came to us for our opinions and to let us know their plans. It was purely voluntary on their part."

The 12 members who were at the meeting voted unanimously to support the project. Community board members are appointed by the borough president and serve as advisers to the borough president and the mayor's office.

Daisy Khan, executive director of the Muslim society, described her vision of a center led by Muslims, but serving the community as a whole.

"It will have a real community feel, to celebrate the pluralism in the United States, as well as in the Islamic religion," Khan said. "It will also serve as a major platform for amplifying the silent voice of the majority of Muslims who have nothing to do with extremist ideologies. It will counter the extremist momentum."(continued)

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; cordoba; islam; jihad; mosque; muslims; newyork; obama; terrorism; trop; wot; wtc
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Why not let the Neo-Nazis build a meeting hall inside the Holocaust Museum or the KKK at the MLK shrine?
1 posted on 05/07/2010 12:53:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why not allow a 15 story, all glass HQ for Global Hog Farmers United be located in the center of Mecca?


2 posted on 05/07/2010 1:04:20 AM PDT by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“majority of Muslims who have nothing to do with extremist ideologies”

The majority of German Nazis never put a Jew in an Oven. Lets honor that portion of Nazis with along with these Muslims and put a swastika on the Empire State building.

3 posted on 05/07/2010 1:05:48 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why not let the Neo-Nazis build a meeting hall inside..............

Sorry Neo Nazis are out of favor at this time.
They are not protected class of victims.

However if Neo Nazis would start recruiting muslims then Neo Nazis can build a meeting hall in Holocaust museum.

This is sarcasm for those that do not notice


4 posted on 05/07/2010 1:06:03 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is this, “America we are in your face week”?


5 posted on 05/07/2010 1:07:31 AM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has it limits.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This has to be one of the greatest insults to America and Americans.


6 posted on 05/07/2010 1:09:54 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It will have a real community feel, to celebrate the pluralism in the United States, as well as in the Islamic religion," Khan said.

Pluralism in Islam? Like one must bow toward a middle eastern city when praying? Like claiming prayers are only efficacious when they are in Arabic...a middle eastern language? Like the "callers" to prayer copy even the speech impediment of the first caller from history...a middle easterner? Islam is not into pluralism...the very name means "submission"...and that submission is to a middle eastern death cult deity...not some faux pluralism.

"It will also serve as a major platform for amplifying the silent voice of the majority of Muslims who have nothing to do with extremist ideologies. It will counter the extremist momentum."

How about you start using that voice against islamic extremism before the building is built? Why does there have to be a mosque next to the site of the worst islamic terrorist attack site in order for muslims to speak out against terror?

7 posted on 05/07/2010 1:14:00 AM PDT by highlander_UW (First we take down the Democrats, then we clean the Augean stable that is the GOP.)
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To: freekitty; oyez; Nailbiter

Look at the bright side: Both Presidents Ahmadinejad and Obama will have a place to worship while in New York City.


8 posted on 05/07/2010 1:14:27 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NY deserves this.

Its a fitting testimony to liberals and their choice to side with terrorists.


9 posted on 05/07/2010 1:16:10 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Liberals are right. The AZ situation is like Nazi Germany. Mexico is Germany and Arizona is Poland)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"It will have a real community feel, to celebrate the pluralism in the United States, as well as in the Islamic religion," Khan said.

I don't know what islam she is talking about....


10 posted on 05/07/2010 1:16:31 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Looking on brighter side I am glad I do not live anywhere near that plot.

Who wants to hear call to prayers 5 times a day from speakers on top of 13 story building.


11 posted on 05/07/2010 1:18:07 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Nailbiter

Obama...

Feb 27, 2008 ... Barack Obama: Muslim Call to Prayer “One of the Prettiest Sounds on Earth”


12 posted on 05/07/2010 1:21:21 AM PDT by SmartInsight (Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote. ~ G. J. Nathan)
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To: Nailbiter

In any case, in this interview Obama chants the opening lines of the Adhan, the Muslim “Call to Prayer” in Arabic, with what Kristof says is a first class accent and then, Obama goes on to volunteer that this “Call” is “One of the Prettiest Sounds On Earth At Sunset.” Here is what this “Call to Prayer” Says:

“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet… “

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/elections/444727-obama-chants-perfect-muslim-call-prayer.html#ixzz0nEK3Hfe6


13 posted on 05/07/2010 1:23:35 AM PDT by SmartInsight (Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote. ~ G. J. Nathan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

friggin muslims


14 posted on 05/07/2010 1:42:02 AM PDT by wardaddy (never been particularly pious but I stand with Franklin Graham...bigtime...you betcha...ya'll)
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To: PA-RIVER; Travis McGee

it’s the 90% that give the other 10% a bad name

I advise everyone to watch Mumbai Terror documentary on HBO just to get more insight into their wretched evil


15 posted on 05/07/2010 1:43:44 AM PDT by wardaddy (never been particularly pious but I stand with Franklin Graham...bigtime...you betcha...ya'll)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pardon me while I PUKE!!!


16 posted on 05/07/2010 1:45:25 AM PDT by dasboot (Down: up. Up: down.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

so mooslims put a thumb in our eye by building a mosque near ground zero—more to spit in our face than praise Allah and their false prohet mohamed.


17 posted on 05/07/2010 2:07:44 AM PDT by BamaAndy
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To: wardaddy

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zM_MzkLKPY

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IstZSgniH8

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd-kDTFXgEo&NR=1&feature=fvwp


18 posted on 05/07/2010 2:14:02 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: TET1968; All

Just turn Mecca into glass.

Legal Immigrants, feel free to honor your culture and traditions so long as they are compatible with ours. Otherwise, assimilate, become an American or GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY.

Illegal Alien Criminals, GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY and fix your own.


19 posted on 05/07/2010 2:40:39 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (Islam must undergo fundamental change or it must be destroyed.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A mosque near ground zero?

That’s just plain disgusting.


20 posted on 05/07/2010 2:40:44 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: PA-RIVER

I suppose “we are all Muslims now” is going to be as catchy as what we are becoming—”good ‘Germans.’”


21 posted on 05/07/2010 2:41:10 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They must be trying to promote domestic terrorism and give Bloomberg an excuse to crack down on anybody except the Islamists.
22 posted on 05/07/2010 2:44:46 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The towers came down and a big mosque goes up in their place. Why am I not surprised.


23 posted on 05/07/2010 2:45:01 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: oyez

“What is this, “America we are in your face week”?

It is. The leftist traitors are pushing garbage in our faces to see what they can get away with.


24 posted on 05/07/2010 2:46:01 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And in this mosque they will plan to kill more americans...!!! sicking!!


25 posted on 05/07/2010 3:14:00 AM PDT by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd,you get no further than the crowd")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can’t help but wonder at what point do Americans say enough is enough. All I can do is shake my head.


26 posted on 05/07/2010 3:16:54 AM PDT by angelsonmyside
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gotta have somewhere to store the weapons.


27 posted on 05/07/2010 3:33:58 AM PDT by Waco (Kalifonia don't need no stenkin oil and no stenkin revenues)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
.......It was purely voluntary on their part."

Voluntary, eh? Like strapping bombs on themselves.

28 posted on 05/07/2010 3:40:54 AM PDT by Just Lori (To take our country back, we need to take our party back. NO MORE RINOS!!)
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"Obama Obama shifts FBI from Counter Terrorism to Fraud"


"Victims of Cole bombing upset
"A top officer slammed Obama's decision to seek the withdrawal of charges against the 2000 suspected U.S.S. Cole ship bomber."


"Impeach Obama Says Sister of Cole Sailor Killed in Terror Attacks
"The sister of Seaman James McDaniels, a sailor killed in the terror attack on the U.S.S. Cole wants President Barack Hussein Obama impeached
over his decision to withdraw charges against the al Qaeda mastermind of the attack."


"Mother of USS Cole Sailor Declines Obama-meet, Says "I Voted for the Wrong Person"
"After Obama dropped the charges against the suspect in the bombing of the USS Cole,
he asked the families of the victims in that tragedy to meet with him.
One mother refused, and now says,"I voted for the wrong person."


29 posted on 05/07/2010 3:42:42 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States … shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When you win a battle, you claim and mark the territory...


30 posted on 05/07/2010 4:00:21 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is rubbing it in.


31 posted on 05/07/2010 4:06:24 AM PDT by mainsail that
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t want to see another mosque go up in America. Why don’t the stupid mayor of NYC say no? If there were a protest against these plans I would join in!


32 posted on 05/07/2010 4:10:06 AM PDT by Buddygirl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The time for a center like this has come because Islam is an American religion," Khan said. "We need to take the 9/11 tragedy and turn it into something very positive."

Positive?! So them building a mosque 2 blocks away from ground zero is a positive thing that came out of 9/11? Let me get this straight. They want to take 9/11, a day when 3,000 Americans were killed by extremist Muslims, and use it to make people more accepting of Muslims. If they want to make people more accepting of Muslims, invoking 9/11 sure as heck isn't the way to do it.

33 posted on 05/07/2010 4:17:10 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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Who is Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf?
He’s chairman of the Cordoba Initiative

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf: the guy who is running the Mosque near the old World Trade Center Building. He is the one that seems to be at the heart of the recent news about a large Mosque being built near the site of the old Twin Towers.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2409161/posts


34 posted on 05/07/2010 4:22:10 AM PDT by anglian
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s their 1st amendment right. Freedom of Religion, and that means all religions. We might not have to like it, but they have every right to do it.


35 posted on 05/07/2010 4:23:13 AM PDT by fartbama_bin_plottin (UNITED we stand.)
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To: oyez
What is this, “America we are in your face week”?

In your face year, not week. However, the plot of land was purchased previously, so this story first game out when the sale was made, which was more than several months ago. This isn't breaking news.
36 posted on 05/07/2010 4:23:18 AM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If nothing else, a good place for all the whackos to eat, sleep & crap.
What a disgrace.


37 posted on 05/07/2010 4:23:45 AM PDT by FES0844
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I think this is great. Is there a way we can build a fresh meat piggery across the street , and have an asscociated BBQ'd pulled ppork sandwich shopwaftinng its aromas over to this wonderful mosque?

If its built, my prediction is that it will be the object of continuous arson attempts by men who are retired military experts in the field.

38 posted on 05/07/2010 4:35:19 AM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Facist Junta (Member NRA))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That Muslims (and no doubt their Wahhabi Islam Saudi backers who have already founded 80% of the Mosques in America) would even consider this says all we need to know about Islam. They have not come to America to be Americans but to overtake America. They have zero respect for America or its institutions and we should have zero respect for them. Politicians - you’re either with us or against us. You’re either with us or with them. We the people find this and your pandering unacceptable. The question is, will we the people do something about it or keep voting the same traitors into office?


39 posted on 05/07/2010 4:35:39 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: fartbama_bin_plottin
Hey, noob.

Are you going to reply to anyone else on the last thread that you posted in for the first time ever?

It's not nice to ignore people on a forum that you've JUST started posting into.
40 posted on 05/07/2010 4:39:12 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go there. Leave bacon.


41 posted on 05/07/2010 4:45:49 AM PDT by Rapscallion (I have a dog in this fight. You may not know it, but you do too.)
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Feisal Abdul Rauf:

“The US and the West must acknowledge the harm they have done to Muslims before terrorism can end,” says an Islamic cleric invited to Sydney by Premier Bob Carr.

Speaking from his New York mosque, Imam Feisal said the West had to understand the terrorists’ point of view.

In a move likely to cause controversy with church leaders, Imam Feisal said it was Christians who started mass attacks on civilians.

“The Islamic method of waging war is not to kill innocent civilians. But it was Christians in World War II who bombed civilians in Dresden and Hiroshima, neither of which were military targets.”

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/03/21/1079789939987.html


42 posted on 05/07/2010 4:58:07 AM PDT by anglian
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To: Rapscallion

I want to visit with a big bowl of free pork rinds. I’d walk around trying to give everyone a taste. Every now and then I would grind a rind into the carpet.

You could leave a slice of bacon on door knobs and toilet handles.


43 posted on 05/07/2010 5:03:57 AM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm sure the chosen one will be there for the ground breaking and say a prayer to the pedophile.
44 posted on 05/07/2010 5:11:19 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (God said it simply, go against Israel and pay a hefty price in retribution. That simple.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

THis is all Saudi money. The same money that has ownership interest in News Corp (Fox News). The other TV networks are even worse. They all support you know who.

People keep enpowering their masters by paying for cable and sat TV. The NCAA, NFL, NBA, MBL support the regime as well.


45 posted on 05/07/2010 5:17:51 AM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain/Graham = La Raza's Senators & Estefan-Rubio)
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To: Diogenesis

Thank You for your photo essay. We all need those reminders on occasion. Please feel free to do so FREQUENTLY.


46 posted on 05/07/2010 5:20:27 AM PDT by imjimbo (The constitution SHOULD be our "gun permit")
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To: anglian
“The Islamic method of waging war is not to kill innocent civilians.

Really?! I would bet the residents of New York, Spain, London, Bombay, and most of Israel would disagree with you.

I have no tolerance for their intolerance.

47 posted on 05/07/2010 5:20:31 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day, another injury, another step closer. Are you prepared?)
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To: wardaddy
The 10% are the recon element, the PR happy-face front men.

Radical Islam is an insane murder cult; moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.

48 posted on 05/07/2010 5:20:49 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How lovely; NOT!

The followers of the religion of peace want to see the rest of us DEAD.


49 posted on 05/07/2010 5:25:20 AM PDT by whatshotandwhatsnot
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To: anglian
“The Islamic method of waging war is not to kill innocent civilians."

Ah, such slippery language. To this nutcase muslim, "innocent civilian" means only "innocent muslim civilian". All non-muslims are the enemy, and therefor not innocent.

50 posted on 05/07/2010 5:28:11 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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