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Killers Without Conscience - 2010
2010 | Ward Dorrity

Posted on 05/07/2010 2:13:19 PM PDT by Noumenon

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I wrote the bulk of this in 2002, revised in some details for 2010. I stand by every word of what I have written here.

Some formatting didn't translate from MS Word exactly as I would have liked, but there you are.

1 posted on 05/07/2010 2:13:20 PM PDT by Noumenon
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To: Noumenon
Bttt.

5.56mm

2 posted on 05/07/2010 2:22:35 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Noumenon
The power to harm others – and to harm others without consequence - is irresistible to a profoundly evil subset of humanity.

That's pretty much it, the rest of the discussion revolves around how they try to get it done.

3 posted on 05/07/2010 2:25:05 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Noumenon

Bump for later.


4 posted on 05/07/2010 2:26:36 PM PDT by Emile ("Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." -- A. Huxley)
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To: Noumenon

Up until 1870 Harvard Law School taught that God was the origin of all morals and laws. That is when case law began to be taught when Christopher Columbus Langdell was appointed Dane Professor of Law at Harvard Law School. The reason this was done was because the previous method of teaching students were taught about the law and Constitution as solid and unchangeable because the law was based on absolutes given to us by God.

Langdell and the man who appointed him, Charles William Elliot, were both believers in Darwin’s Origin of Species and sought to remove God from the law and from the public. The farther men go from God, the more atrocities they are capable of committing.


5 posted on 05/07/2010 2:27:29 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: Noumenon
Yes. There are those who gravitate to government in a search for power over others, like those you mention. Others, idealistic as they may be, become pawns of those who lust for power for power's sake.

Our Founding Fathers understood this and attempted to make a limited central government tied down as much as possible to keep it away from power. It's been a good run of a little over 200 years, but it's ending now. Those who seek power have finally found a way to take unimpeded control of our government.

Why? We have a heck of a military and a LOT of money. That translates into so much power that those who crave it have salivated for years over it. And the not ha-ha funny thing is how they did it. They took what the Founders thought would keep us free and subjugated it to their will: the press.

6 posted on 05/07/2010 2:28:27 PM PDT by jeffc (I now live in National Socialist America)
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To: Noumenon

Awesome!


7 posted on 05/07/2010 2:28:42 PM PDT by elpinta (Jer. 10:23)
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To: Noumenon

Excellent essay.

However, I think you underestimate the extent to which many of those who desire power deceive themselves, this being more true of the followers than the top leaders.

Many if not most sincerely believe they are working for the greater good of humanity. This, however, makes them more dangerous, not less.

As CS Lewis pointed out, there is an inherent limit on greed. There is none on those who want to do us good.


8 posted on 05/07/2010 2:31:36 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Noumenon
The power to harm others – and to harm others without consequence - is irresistible to a profoundly evil subset of humanity.

Muslims?

9 posted on 05/07/2010 2:35:09 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: Noumenon

A Noumenon BTT. I’d cut Nietzsche a little slack, myself. When he was sane, he saw Europe rejecting God and called it like he saw it. After that, not so good - he went from fantasizing Superman to screaming in a mental institution.


10 posted on 05/07/2010 2:37:21 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Noumenon

Thanks for posting this ... printing it out for my bedtime reading.


11 posted on 05/07/2010 2:39:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Noumenon

BTTT BFLR ASAP ETC


12 posted on 05/07/2010 2:45:40 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Noumenon
The Episcopalian Pastor/Psychologist, M. Scott Peck, broke this murderously evil group into subsets, in a book titled, People Of The Lie.
13 posted on 05/07/2010 2:45:45 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: jeffc

“They took what the Founders thought would keep us free and subjugated it to their will: the press.”

Yes, and the MSM is dying. We can overcome this. Many of our children, especially the best and brightest, reject the hegemony of the MSM.


14 posted on 05/07/2010 2:52:53 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Noumenon

You wrote this? Wow. You are, sir, a true scholar. May God bless you in your journey.


15 posted on 05/07/2010 3:02:15 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: Noumenon

Thank you. This explains philosophically why this country will hit the train wreck and the inevitable CW2. The old school liberal is gone, replaced by the New Left who is not interested in “getting along” or working on any common ground, but instead getting in our faces, “by any means necessary”.
This is why even though I live in Minnesota and have a business in Minnesota, I do not consider myself to be a Minnesotan (even though there are many fine conservatives up here).


16 posted on 05/07/2010 3:05:48 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (From this point forward the Democrat Party will be referred to as the Communist Party)
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To: Noumenon

btt


17 posted on 05/07/2010 3:12:40 PM PDT by ConservativeVoice
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To: Noumenon

Have you submitted this to Human Events? I think you should submit it to some publisher, and Jason Mattera has taken over Human Events.


18 posted on 05/07/2010 3:28:00 PM PDT by Excellence (Meet your new mother-in-law, the United States Government.)
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To: Travis McGee; FreedomPoster; Noumenon

Excellent essay by a fellow FReeper.


19 posted on 05/07/2010 3:33:27 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: Sherman Logan; ExTexasRedhead

I agree. The people who choose to harm by doing good have convinced themselves they are the rightous saviors of mankind when they are anything but.


20 posted on 05/07/2010 3:40:47 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Noumenon
KEYWORDS: communism; diversity; genocide; multiculturalism; totalitarianism; tryanny; Click to Add Keyword

Who is "Anny?"

21 posted on 05/07/2010 3:51:10 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others.)
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To: Navy Patriot; freekitty; seekthetruth; MamaDearest; 70th Division; jesseam; celtic gal; BossLady; ..

Every single member of this Congress that voted YES on the DeathCare bill that will, IMO, equate to a genocide of American elderly are amoral, without a conscience. They are as evil and reprehensible as any dictator in history. Power and greed is their God. They sold out their country and the future of their country as well as their soul. Is there anything lower or more disgusting?


22 posted on 05/07/2010 3:55:29 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Yes all those people that voted for Obama


23 posted on 05/07/2010 3:58:29 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: ExTexasRedhead

“Is there anything lower or more disgusting?”

Only the people[voters] that elected them.


24 posted on 05/07/2010 4:02:27 PM PDT by sport
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To: Noumenon
Open warfare in this country is inevitable because there is no reconciliation possible with those who claim that your life simply does not belong to you.

A year ago I gave myself a significantly less than even chance of surviving this administration. Lately, I've begun to see a few positives, enough to reconsider and give myself a little better than even chance. This cold civil war that's been going on for over 40 years might still flare up, but I sense a resolution in my lifetime.

25 posted on 05/07/2010 4:17:32 PM PDT by kitchen (One battle rifle for each person, and a spare for each pair.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

That’s ‘Try anny key’ You know where the anny key is don’t you?


26 posted on 05/07/2010 6:39:06 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Navy Patriot

The Rat party headed by the POS in chief in the White House is every bit as evil as the SS/Nazi party in Germany. At least the Nazi’s respected their wounded veterans. As a 100% disabled combat OIF vet all I can expect is the choice of a red or blue pill when the time comes. Thanks to all of you who voted for this pos——To Hell with you. Jess M.


27 posted on 05/07/2010 6:39:17 PM PDT by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: Navy Patriot

“The power to harm others – and to harm others without consequence - is irresistible to a profoundly evil subset of humanity.”

That’s pretty much it, the rest of the discussion revolves around how they try to get it done.

Yes, and we’re going to get a graphic and physical demonstration of that before the summer’s out. They can’t afford to see another free and fair election in this country. The instant they realize that they can’t cheat and defraud their way into retaining power...


28 posted on 05/07/2010 6:50:14 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yes, case law alone allows for all sorts of interpretation, but more importantly, reliance on case law alone rather then the guiding principles of the Founders is one of the surest ways to institute and enshrine the rule of men.


29 posted on 05/07/2010 6:52:09 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: jeffc

The Founders, and Jefferson in particular knew that it took both a moral people AND an educated one to keep our Republic free. This is precisely why the Gramscian ‘change agents’ have largely succeeded in destroying both.


30 posted on 05/07/2010 6:54:34 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: James C. Bennett
Muslims?

Worse - our own kind.

31 posted on 05/07/2010 6:55:30 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Billthedrill

I think that you’re correct about Nietzsche in all the particulars you’ve mentioned. Nietzsche was brlliant, and he did descend into madness. And there’s no denying that he did posess keen insights into the tragic aspects of human nature. His efforts to construct a heroic and transcendent view of human nature were ultimately hijacked by the worst Europe had to offer. With the outcomes we know well.

I’ve read most of his works. Some of it made sense, some of it didn’t.


32 posted on 05/07/2010 6:59:32 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon
I'll be back to comment on this in depth a bit later.

But for now allow me to say that this is profoundly important and one of the best things I've seen posted on this forum in a very, very long time.

L

33 posted on 05/07/2010 7:00:29 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: MHGinTN
The Episcopalian Pastor/Psychologist, M. Scott Peck, broke this murderously evil group into subsets, in a book titled, People Of The Lie.

Thanks - I'll check that out. My reading list grows. Take care and stay well...

34 posted on 05/07/2010 7:01:01 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: redpoll

Thanks - it’s a re-work of something I put together about 8 years ago. It was chilling to go back through it for reasons that are obvious. Scholarly? Maybe - I think that the constellation of ideas could hang together better and that the basic argument could be refined and flow a bit better. But I don’t believe that I’m wrong in any of the particulars.


35 posted on 05/07/2010 7:05:02 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Excellence

Interesting idea. It’s strictly an amateur effort, but who knows? I could use an editor.


36 posted on 05/07/2010 7:06:39 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Yes, and almost every single member of our government - from the top down - is in stark violation of their oath of office. And we do nothing about it.


37 posted on 05/07/2010 7:08:31 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Lurker

Thanks, my friend. I’ll be interersted in your comments.


38 posted on 05/07/2010 7:10:14 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon

Eight to ten years in the future, from 2002.....not much time left?


39 posted on 05/07/2010 7:55:04 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Noumenon
Those who feel they have the right to dictate the terms of existence to everyone else are on a deadly collision course with those of us who understand that no such 'right' exists.

Spot on. Witness the elitists who sigh longingly for the day when they have the power to emulate China's one-child policy, the Georgia Guidestones, Ted Turner's lamentations that overpopulation is destroying the earth, Prince Philip's wish that he be reincarnated as a deadly virus to thin the human herd, John Holdren's well-thought-out plan to put sterilants in the public drinking water supply, Durbin's assertion that it's the duty of the elderly to just to away and leave society (and life) to the young, Ezekiel Emanuel declaring that one of these days abortions would not be voluntary.... If we don't stand up for our God-given rights as human beings created in His image, the elitists will assert that rights come from them -- and can be taken away by them (for the "greater good," of course).

Perilous times, indeed.

40 posted on 05/07/2010 8:13:34 PM PDT by shezza (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: Noumenon
A BTT for the evening crew. Yeah, the thing about Nietzsche was really a little tragic. He was obviously disturbed by the conviction that his people had given up on God, and that as a consequence God did not actually exist. And what he grasped at was the notion that somehow Man would fill that terrible gulf. It was an illusion, IMHO, but he wasn't the first to cling to it. "And ye shall be as Gods," went the first of all lies.

But in simple point of fact God is not Tinkerbelle, and His existence is not a function of human vanity, but of fact. One can either recognize it, doubt it, or deny it, but none of that changes it.

41 posted on 05/07/2010 9:10:56 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Travis McGee

Called it pretty close, didn’t I? But seriously, who could have known about 0bama then? Thing is, the trends were there for all to see.

Just didn’t really know how it was going to play out.


42 posted on 05/07/2010 9:34:31 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Vigilantcitizen; Noumenon

Thanks for the ping, and truly so.

Noumenon, nice work. It especially resonates with me, as your C.S. Lewis quote already lived on my profile page, and I’ve been throwing Rummel in the faces of Leftists for years now.


43 posted on 05/08/2010 4:46:02 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Travis McGee

I’d nominate this for a CWII ping. This is really a philosophical history of how we got to our current state. Or State.


44 posted on 05/08/2010 4:47:24 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Noumenon

Very Good. More concise, even, than Veith’s “Modern Fascism”, which is also a good read and lays out manyof the same points. Thanks for putting this together.


45 posted on 05/08/2010 5:12:52 AM PDT by RepRivFarm ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell)
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To: FreedomPoster

Rummmel is like kryptonite to leftist Ubermensch wanna-bes. Guaranteed to provoke name-calling within 10 seconds.


46 posted on 05/08/2010 8:17:11 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: RepRivFarm
Haven't read Veith. I'll check it out. Just got Jamie Glazov's United in Hate. Stunning, even in the first few pages.
47 posted on 05/08/2010 8:19:21 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon

ping for later


48 posted on 05/08/2010 8:22:08 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Control the American people? Herding cats would be easier.)
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To: Noumenon

I often bring him up in the context of “those evil European Christians were mass murderers” type statements. And yes, you are right, the response is just precious 95+% of the time.


49 posted on 05/08/2010 8:54:28 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Noumenon

Distressingly excellent.

It’s been said that the human race can be divided into two parts - those who want to tell others how to live their lives, and those who have no such desire.

In the former group are obviously the great monsters of the 20th Century, but also, not so obvious, all around us, are the petty tyrants of the HOA Board of Directors who decree you can’t park your pickup truck in front of your house, the cop who got his underwear run up the flagpole in junior high and now likes to “lord over” everyone he would like to consider his inferior, the city councilman who trys to outlaw putting non-lawn furniture on the front porch, and so on.


50 posted on 05/08/2010 9:12:54 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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