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Hezbollah says it's ready for fresh war with Israel and stronger now
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 5/7/2010 | Nicholas Blanford

Posted on 05/09/2010 12:58:28 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Nearly four years after Hezbollah fought invading Israeli troops to a standstill in south Lebanon, the militant Shiite group says it's prepared for a fresh conflict and confident of victory.

"We are ready for another war and we eagerly await it," says veteran Hezbollah fighter Abu Hadi on a drive through the Bekaa Valley. "We expect the next war to be short. The Israelis will not be able to endure what we will do to them."

Hezbollah's leadership insists it does not seek a war and that its military preparations are a defense against potential Israeli aggression. Yet, the inconclusive outcome of the 2006 war has stoked a feeling here that another war is inevitable.

War drums have been beating faster in recent weeks amid allegations that Syria has supplied Hezbollah with Scud ballistic missiles – a development that has enraged Israel, forced Lebanese leaders to seek international support, and complicated a gradual US-Syria rapprochement. On May 3, President Obama renewed sanctions on Syria for a year because of its "continuing support for terrorist organizations and pursuit of weapons of mass destruction and missile programs."

Hezbollah's strongholds in the Bekaa Valley are likely to be one of several front lines during another war with Israel – a war that threatens to be far more destructive than the one in July 2006. Hezbollah says lessons learned from that conflict have been implemented, including new battlefield tactics and the acquisition of improved weapons systems, surface-to-surface rockets, and possibly advanced antiaircraft missiles.

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bekaavalley; hezbollah; israel; lebanon; m600; middleeast; scud; syria

1 posted on 05/09/2010 12:58:28 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

Hezbullsh*t didn’t fight Israel to a standstill.
The US, France etc. were dragging on Israel’s coattail.
They’ll be an even bigger drag now and Hezbullsh*t knows it.


2 posted on 05/09/2010 1:03:53 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (NEW TAG ====> **REPEAL OR REBEL!** -- Islam Delenda Est! -- Rumble thee forth)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

I agree.


3 posted on 05/09/2010 1:09:24 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

According to the Winograd Commission Report, the Second Lebanon War was regarded as a “missed opportunity” and that “Israel initiated a long war, which ended without a defined military victory”


4 posted on 05/09/2010 1:11:43 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Pray for God’s mercy, and prepare because WWIII is upon us now.
2/3 of humanity will be wiped out in 9 days, and it will take 9 months to bury the dead!


5 posted on 05/09/2010 1:27:02 AM PDT by J Edgar
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To: J Edgar

I agree with that. It probably won’t be able to bury the dead but burn the bodies because of radiation.


6 posted on 05/09/2010 1:28:58 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

The only way Israel is ever going to be safe is to kill every last one of thee animals. The sooner Israel accepts this the sooner the better.


7 posted on 05/09/2010 2:04:11 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: sonofstrangelove
It probably won’t be able to bury the dead but burn the bodies because of radiation.

Wouldn't burning carry the radiation into the atmosphere?

Besides, where would anyone get enough 'Cap and Trade' credits to be allowed to burn so much? /sarc

8 posted on 05/09/2010 2:05:40 AM PDT by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: BigCinBigD

^
These...


9 posted on 05/09/2010 2:05:45 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: BigCinBigD
The only way Israel is ever going to be safe is to kill every last one of thee animals.

I never fail to be amazed at these organizations' capacity for self-inflicted injury, or at the U.S.'s capacity for holding Israel back from simply destroying them.

Plus, it always seems they have taken their PR lessons from old video tapes of Muhammed Ali.

10 posted on 05/09/2010 2:08:23 AM PDT by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: Quiller

The only way to stop diseases like cholera or dysentary is to burn them. I do not think people will not have time for a burial because you will be spending all your time looking for food and shelter. If you burn wood you will be putting radiation back into the air.


11 posted on 05/09/2010 2:11:04 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

I can imagine that Israel has an even tougher job than what the USA saw in Iraq. The conflict between Israel is what is being used to radicalize Muslims all over the Middle East. In preparation of conflict, resources and Jihadists from all over the Middle East while the Palestinian population is highly supportive of their cause. A 2009 Pew research poll found that 68% of Palestinians thought that suicide bombings was “often or sometimes justified.”

I don’t think a 2 State solution is possible, and I don’t think removing the radicals is possible either. It would take a generation to change these people’s ways of thinking. It will probably only come with economic success that the Palestinians will have to forge in their own way. It is unfortunate that the only thing fellow Muslim countries seem to be generous with is guns instead of butter. Palestine has been politicized by the rest of the Middle East, and it will be the last place to change.


12 posted on 05/09/2010 2:16:46 AM PDT by ATX 1985 (Time is Breath, Breath is Light, Light is Life)
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To: Quiller
What I find amazing is every time they do take out one of these things, there's a huge funeral with Thousands of them marching in the street. The amazing part is why these displays are not napalmed.
13 posted on 05/09/2010 2:18:49 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Backhoes & bulldozers. That’s how mass burials are done.


14 posted on 05/09/2010 2:20:12 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Frenchtown Dan

In a nuclear attack it will nearly impossible to use a bulldozer.


15 posted on 05/09/2010 2:21:35 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: Frenchtown Dan
Its a waste of manpower for mass burial when people can be spending time looking for food,drinkable water and shelter from fallout in a nuclear environment.
16 posted on 05/09/2010 2:23:14 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

If any one is alive who can operate them, and find some that are operable, thousands of bodies can be disposed of in hours.

But in the event of a tremendous amount of radiation, I don’t think anthing can be done.

I’m curious as to how Hiroshima or Nagasaki are today. I’ve heard they had to cover areas with sheets of lead, but I’ve never confirmed it.


17 posted on 05/09/2010 2:27:00 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: sonofstrangelove

If the land is habitable, the dead need to be disposed of or the spread of disease will be to big a threat for the survivors.

Perhaps some people could take care of the food, water and shelter duties, and others take care of the bodies.

Let’s just hope no one has to.


18 posted on 05/09/2010 2:30:35 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Frenchtown Dan

A nuclear attack either by Russia or China will wipe out every major primary targets(cities and military bases).The dead I guess will be around 90-150 million people dead and more people dying from radiation sickess the weeks after the attack. The people alive afterwards will be too busy looking after themselves rather than worrying about burying the dead.


19 posted on 05/09/2010 2:31:10 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Boy, the Arabs have short memories. Can’t get enough of defeat it appears.


20 posted on 05/09/2010 2:32:41 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

But this time, they are arming themselves. What I worry is that Israel will be fighting on multiple fronts with people with modern hardware at the same time.


21 posted on 05/09/2010 2:34:44 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

So you’re talking about a major attack. I was thinking more along the lines of a single strike from Iran.

I’m not so sure Russia or China would get involved. They would have Western Europe to deal with, then us.

It would be the end. For all of us.

Too depressing for me to give any more thought to on Mothers Day.


22 posted on 05/09/2010 2:35:34 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Read Isaiah 17:1 for a glimpse of how Syria ultimately does against Israel.


23 posted on 05/09/2010 2:36:05 AM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Even a single attack can cause a lot of problems.This stuff does not bother me because I study it.


24 posted on 05/09/2010 2:36:46 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

So how did the Japanese deal with Hiroshima & Nagasaki?


25 posted on 05/09/2010 2:39:16 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Hezbollah wants to call it a war, it's more of a house cleaning. Every now and then Israel needs to clean up a bit.
The difference between last time and this will be leadership in Israel. The last group were civilians, not this time.
26 posted on 05/09/2010 2:40:26 AM PDT by Recon Dad ( USMC SSgt Patrick O - 3rd Afghanistan Deployment - Day 201)
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To: Frenchtown Dan

If you seen some of the pictures I have seen its horrific.Remember these were two cities that were bombed three days apart. They were able to get aid from the outside. But, if its one massive attack in a single day,involving two countries with multiple cities the infrastructure will collapse due to the massive casualties.


27 posted on 05/09/2010 2:42:21 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: Frenchtown Dan

But there were more deaths from radiation exposure from the years after the bombings.


28 posted on 05/09/2010 2:47:22 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Yes I know what it was like then.
But what are the conditions like now? Are the cities habitable?

Now that my curiosity is up, I’m going to surf for a while & check it out.


29 posted on 05/09/2010 2:55:28 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Frenchtown Dan

The cities are habitable. There are “relics” of buildings but its a habitable zone. The bombs back then were airburst and released little fallout. Much of the Nagasaki blast was deflected because its a hilly area.


30 posted on 05/09/2010 2:59:29 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Pretty amazing when you think of the level of destruction from such small nuclear bombs. Couldn’t imagine what today’s weapons would do.

http://www.fantasticjapan.com/hiroshima-today.html


31 posted on 05/09/2010 3:03:55 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Frenchtown Dan

The effects of today’s weapons would be catastrophic. It would set us back centuries.


32 posted on 05/09/2010 3:05:39 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: Frenchtown Dan; sonofstrangelove

I have read that the Hiroshima / Nagasaki weapons were on the order of 7kt to 15kt. An Ohio Trident D-3 is about 475kt per warhead. A Russian SS-27M is about 550kt. And I think the MMIII warhead the W-87 is around 500kt.

Some of these weapons are scaled back from the monster weapons but they’re quite a bit more powerful than that used in 1945.

My numbers may be off a bit but that’s pretty much what I’ve read.


33 posted on 05/09/2010 3:24:48 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

So we’re talking in the order of around 35 times more powerful. And some with multiple warheads.

I remember the Cuban Missle crisis. I was sent home from school the day Kennedy gave Kruschev his ultimatum, and air raid drills became a weekly thing. Didn’t really scare me at the time, I didn’t understand what was going on. Bomb shelters were a common thing, a lot of people who had them made or made them themselves were thought of as quacks.
Most of those bomb shelters wouldn’t have been much help, I don’t think.


34 posted on 05/09/2010 3:48:44 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: sonofstrangelove

The quisling from kenya is tacitly complicit with mohammedan terrorists in their planned destruction for Israel.

Anyone who believes that mohammed obama will defend Israel’s right to exist as a free nation is a damn fool or a liar.


35 posted on 05/09/2010 3:56:16 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

well the mussie scum does have a friend in the White House......


36 posted on 05/09/2010 4:12:08 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

As soon as Hezbollah runs out of missiles, the UN (and sadly the US too) will pressure Israel for a cease fire. I’m sure the people of South Lebanon just luv completely rebuilding every 4 years or so.


37 posted on 05/09/2010 5:14:59 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: rbg81
Quick translation of huzzie-speak: we are ready to die when Israel submarine missiles turn us into a glass parking lot.
38 posted on 05/09/2010 5:25:08 AM PDT by hal ogen ($10 (I think) amounts through the internet from all over the world.)
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39 posted on 05/09/2010 5:27:36 AM PDT by SJackson (Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: sonofstrangelove

I’m not worried about Israel.

(Please watch all parts)
Israel Against All Odds - The Miracle Of The Survival Of Israel - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v0wCpuTBMs&feature=related


40 posted on 05/09/2010 6:02:57 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Back then they went for mega tonnage on a lot of weapons. It truly was overkill in most cases so they scaled them back.

I think the Russians had one of 20mt or more on an SS-18 “Satan” ICBM to try and crush Cheyenne Mountain.


41 posted on 05/09/2010 11:56:29 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: sonofstrangelove

“four years after Hezbollah fought invading Israeli troops to a standstill in south Lebanon”

?Huh?

I guess that is what Israel gets for holding back.


42 posted on 05/09/2010 4:21:00 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: F15Eagle

It had more to do with the piss-poor accuracy of Soviet early missles.

Miss by a mile? Add 3 or 4 more megatons.


43 posted on 05/09/2010 4:23:09 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: nolongerademocrat

I am just worried that an an attack can lead to a four front war with ballistic missiles


44 posted on 05/09/2010 8:22:18 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: F15Eagle

That is true. An SS-18 Module 6 is a 20 megaton warhead. Cheyanne Mountain can only withstand a 10 Mt blast.


45 posted on 05/09/2010 8:24:54 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

The New Topol M is very accurate because it has a GLONASS receiver in it.


46 posted on 05/09/2010 8:26:40 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: F15Eagle

47 posted on 05/09/2010 8:31:54 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

“The editor of this anthology hates war, was injured in the last war, and hates the politicians and diplomats whose cupidity and short-sightedness has made the present war inevitable. But now that we are at war again, there is only one thing to do: win it. Because the consequences of losing it are worse than the consequences of war itself.”

Ernest Hemingway, introduction to War Stories anthology, 1940 (?).

Quoting from memory. Too lazy to look up the exact words.


48 posted on 05/10/2010 6:42:59 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( Two-state solution: A bad idea whose time has gone.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

I think you’re right.


49 posted on 05/10/2010 10:15:14 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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