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Police: Man, 72, arrested for shooting alleged intruder
komonews.com ^ | 5/9/2010 | Staff

Posted on 05/09/2010 4:41:14 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

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To: Red in Blue PA

It’s preposterous. At worst, the homeowner panicked and couldn’t stop shooting. He doesn’t deserve this.


21 posted on 05/09/2010 5:08:12 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: Red in Blue PA
What else was this 72-year-old man capable of? Can you imagine him shooting some poor guy creeping around his residence?

I would imagine the only problem here is making sure the 72 year old suspect doesn't escape and go on a crime rampage...

Port Orchard Washington police and the prosecutors should be proud...Bet the DA gets to meet the governor...Maybe even run for governor some day!

Feather in his political cap!!

22 posted on 05/09/2010 5:08:52 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
The police leave the hero weaponless to make it easier for the thugs tribe to get revenge!

The revenge isn't the tribe's alone. The old gentleman just did some badge's job, they don't deal well with competition.
23 posted on 05/09/2010 5:08:55 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“...he confronted a young man in his 20s...
a struggle followed...
the intruder was pushed out of the apartment’s front door and ran away...
the 72-year-old said he fired several shots in the direction of the fleeing intruder...”
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His defense should be that he feared for his life and safety,
and in a sane world, the jury should acquit him.


24 posted on 05/09/2010 5:16:40 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Don't blame me. I voted for Jefferson Davis.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
The police leave the hero weaponless to make it easier for the thugs tribe to get revenge!

Well, at least they didn't inform the media that the man's weapons were confiscated so that the perps would know he was now a vulnerable 72 year old unarmed man.

25 posted on 05/09/2010 5:20:23 PM PDT by sportutegrl (Do I really have to put the sarc tag?)
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To: Joan Kerrey

Unless the perp used a bump key or some other high tech device to just walk in.


26 posted on 05/09/2010 5:24:57 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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27 posted on 05/09/2010 5:26:08 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

In Washington state? Are you kidding me?


28 posted on 05/09/2010 5:33:58 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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I know it’s a long shot he’ll find a fair jury, but occasionally people do win the lottery.

He wouldn’t have to worry about it if I were on the jury, he’d walk or I’d hang the jury until hell froze over.


29 posted on 05/09/2010 5:39:03 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: Mobilemitter

Intruders never run, and turn and fire, right?/sarc


30 posted on 05/09/2010 5:43:54 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Red in Blue PA

“The 72-year-old said he fired several shots in the direction of the fleeing intruder.”

That is the problem. Elsewhere today I read how charges are not being brought against police in Los Angeles, because of a “bad luck” killing.

In that case, police were in the middle of a gun battle with armed robbers when a man exited a building, unknowingly walking into the battle. And he had the same color shirt as one of the robbers. The police yelled at him to “show his hands”, but before he could react, more shots were fired at the police. So an officer fired and killed the innocent man.

I mention this because in the case in question, “contact had been broken” between the shooter and the burglar, who was running away. What would have happened if when he poked his head out of his apartment, instead of seeing the burglar, he saw a jogger who sort of looked like the burglar?

This would be the legal issue in the case, and why, once a burglar is off your property, or at least fleeing, shooting is usually a no-go.

And while we might prefer it to be okay to take out some creep like that, the law will generally weigh weather lethal force is acceptable for a property crime, once the crime is over and the criminal is leaving.


31 posted on 05/09/2010 6:00:38 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Red in Blue PA

He said he confronted a young man in his 20s, unknown to him, in the living room. A struggle followed, and the intruder was pushed out of the apartment’s front door and ran away, the 72-year-old told deputies.

The 72-year-old said he fired several shots in the direction of the fleeing intruder.


The old man is going to jail.


32 posted on 05/09/2010 6:19:11 PM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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To: xjcsa

Good post.


33 posted on 05/09/2010 6:20:33 PM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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He said he confronted a young man in his 20s, unknown to him, in the living room. A struggle followed, and the intruder was pushed out of the apartment’s front door and ran away, the 72-year-old told deputies.

The 72-year-old said he fired several shots in the direction of the fleeing intruder.

The old man is going to jail.

My thought, too. After a shooting, best not to say anything to the cops without your attorney present.

34 posted on 05/09/2010 6:32:45 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Red in Blue PA

An innocent man faces charges for defending himself. Sen. Patty Murray and the unelected governor rejoice.


35 posted on 05/09/2010 6:55:39 PM PDT by Judges Gone Wild (Who is this uncircumcised, to oppose the armies of The Living God?)
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To: ronnie raygun

according to the story posted at the link, the old man said the kid ran away and he fired at him as he ran away.

In almost every jurisdiction I know of, shooting a someone who is running away from you is a crime, no matter what they had just done to you.

If they are running away, the threat is gone and deadly force is not warranted.


36 posted on 05/09/2010 7:51:28 PM PDT by JimBianchi11 (The 2A is the cornerstone of our free society. Those that don't support it, oppose it.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Have gun...Will chase!

The youngster had the right idea chasing the scumbag intruder down...

One major reason I keep using the treadmill. Now, if they would only install one at the local small-arms range...

37 posted on 05/09/2010 7:52:37 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: AnalogReigns

>>Two handguns and a rifle, along with several boxes of ammunition, were confiscated from the resident for safekeeping as the investigation was just starting.
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>Ahh yes, the “new” America, land of the (formerly) free....

Guilty until proven innocent; or at least the moral equivalent.

I’m in a discussion about no-knock warrants; while somewhat different, the arguments I put forth concerning the 4th and 5th Amendments SHOULD be relevant. If you’re interested it’s over here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2509876/posts?page=23#23


38 posted on 05/09/2010 7:55:09 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Blueflag

WA is not a “must retreat” state....but self defense is an affirmative defense in WA. That mean he must prove he acted in self defense.

If the facts at the scene didn’t readily show it was self defense then he most likely would be arrested then bonded out, considering his age, at a pretty low dollar amount I’d say.


39 posted on 05/09/2010 8:09:21 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: xjcsa

But fortunately, Texas isn’t one of them. If anyone is on your property after dark, Texans are free to fire. That’s why Texas is the fastest growing state in the nation, with freedom lovers flocking to its sensible laws.


40 posted on 05/09/2010 9:04:30 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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