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Guns don’t create terrorists
The San Francisco Examiner ^ | 05/08/10 | Masthead Editorial

Posted on 05/11/2010 9:35:00 AM PDT by neverdem

Mayor Mike is coming for your guns, but not even this administration — or this Congress — is naive enough to play along.

Bloomberg appealed to Congress this week to address what is oddly being called the "terror gap," but which supporters of Second Amendment rights better describe as "secret government lists." The question is this: Should U.S. citizens on terror watch lists be allowed to purchase firearms? The answer from Congress is yes (though the Huffington Post and the New York Times would have you believe it's just Republicans obstructing Bloomberg's "common sense" proposal).

There are as many as one million names on the government's various no-fly lists and terror watch lists. (The list has even included such notables as the late Massachusetts Senator Teddy Kennedy.) But the government is only very good at keeping lists of people that owe it money. For any number of reasons it seems completely incapable of maintaining an effective list of possible terrorists.

For Americans concerned about their right to keep and bear arms, of whom there are many, this issue is a non-starter. The government has never been allowed to maintain a list of firearms purchases for fear that such a list might ultimately be used to seize those weapons (the government must destroy all background checks after 24 hours under current law). Gun owners don't trust the government to keep lists, and they certainly don't trust the government to keep a secret list of people who can't buy firearms.

Naturally, the NRA is stoking opposition to legislation (S. 1317)  that would implement such a ban -- and they're having some success. Harry Reid is counting on NRA support in a tough reelection fight in Nevada. There's a better chance of Obama making a new push for offshore drilling this year than there is of Harry Reid taking up gun control legislation on behalf of Mayor Mike.

And in any case, the only clamor for this legislation is from gun control groups who haven't had a serious legislative victory in over a decade. Just a few weeks ago, Nancy Pelosi was prepared to move legislation granting D.C. a vote in the House on the condition that nearly every gun control measure in the District be repealed. The D.C. City Council balked at the last minute and the Democrats pulled the bill. Last week Senators McCain and Tester introduced the same bill in the Senate -- and they'll likely attach it to the financial reform bill, and any other bill that comes down the pike after that.

Democrats didn't have the stomach to fight on this issue when they were at the peak of their power last spring (when Attorney General Eric Holder threatened to push a new assault weapons ban last year, 65 House Dems signed a letter informing him that no such measure would be considered -- 65!). They certainly aren't going to take on the gun owners of America six months out from the midterm elections.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloomberg; terroristwatchlists; watchlists

1 posted on 05/11/2010 9:35:00 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Guns don’t create terrorists-

Scantily-clad Women, Earthquakes and Volcanic Ash Create Terrorists

2 posted on 05/11/2010 9:40:05 AM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: neverdem
Strange how they have shown a complete fear of gun owners during their reign of terror on the hill the last year and a half, while simultaneously poking us in the eye on health care and cap and trade. Don't they realize it's same same people they are pissing off so badly.

One would think they would either be all in or simply fold. Does anyone have a guess as to why they would anger and alienate us so badly yet be afraid of enacting gun control?

Don't get me wrong. I'm relieved they haven't rammed through gun ban after gun ban, but I just don't get these people.

3 posted on 05/11/2010 9:44:40 AM PDT by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: neverdem

My thinking, if they’re bad enough to be on a terrorist list, they should be in gitmo and not walking around in the USA.


4 posted on 05/11/2010 9:46:01 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: neverdem
Guns should create terrorist's dead bodies!
6 posted on 05/11/2010 9:49:44 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: neverdem
They certainly aren't going to take on the gun owners of America six months out from the midterm elections

Nope. They know they are done one way or another as soon as they go after guns. They won't even consider it till they have everything else in place for their communist utopia, then they'll hit guns hard and fast.

7 posted on 05/11/2010 10:04:50 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Clump
One would think they would either be all in or simply fold. Does anyone have a guess as to why they would anger and alienate us so badly yet be afraid of enacting gun control?

"Democrats didn't have the stomach to fight on this issue when they were at the peak of their power last spring (when Attorney General Eric Holder threatened to push a new assault weapons ban last year, 65 House Dems signed a letter informing him that no such measure would be considered -- 65!)."

They moved to the center to retake Congress starting in 2006, e.g. prolife Sen. Casey in PA, loads of pro Second Amendment House candidates, etc. The same types ran as rats for Congress in 2008. That's how they got their majorities. They loaded up with a bunch of moderates. Only in rat strongholds did they run moonbats.

That's why up to 100 House seats are in play this November.

8 posted on 05/11/2010 10:21:24 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Forks do NOT create fat people.

Hoses do NOT create floods.

Cars do NOT create drunk drivers.

Fertilizer & deisel fuel do NOT create Timothy McVeigh’s.


9 posted on 05/11/2010 10:28:57 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: neverdem

November 2010 is shaping up to be........ The Mother of all Novembers.


10 posted on 05/11/2010 10:47:35 AM PDT by Gator113 (I do not want Obama just IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED. Are we there yet? 2010-2012)
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To: neverdem
Guns don’t create terrorists

Though I understand they can be ELIMINATED with guns.

11 posted on 05/11/2010 11:07:09 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Gator113
November 2010 is shaping up to be........ The Mother of all Novembers.

Shoot, the whole year's been a mutha so far.

12 posted on 05/11/2010 11:20:53 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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