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Google screws Scroogle

Posted on 05/11/2010 2:49:03 PM PDT by ConservativeMind

Scroogle, the privacy-friendly Google scraper, has been crippled by changes to one of the dominant search engine's interface pages.

The unheralded alterations to google.com/ie yesterday could mean Scroogle has to be "permanently retired", its operator Daniel Brandt wrote.

"Over the next few days we will attempt to contact Google and determine whether the old interface is gone as a matter of policy at Google, or if they simply have it hidden somewhere and will tell us where it is so that we can continue to use it," he added.

The Register contacted Google for comment this morning but we haven't heard back.

"If we don't hear from Google by next week, I think we can all assume that Google would rather have no Scroogle, and no privacy for searchers, at all," Brandt wrote.

Brandt has been using the page to grab search results since 2002, when he set up Google Watch, an attempt by the non-profit group Public Information Research to draw more scrutiny to Google's growing influence. It complained about Google's vast mines of search data and cookie-based tracking before regulators noticed.

Brandt has also been prominent critic of Wikipedia, which Google has donated millions of dollars to.

The Scroogle search scraper acted as a proxy, hiding users' IP addresses from Mountain View, and delivering basic results pages without advertising or cross-referencing searches with Gmail. The scraper source code was released in 2005.

The interface that Scroogle scraped served up generic web search results without other services such as news search that have been added to standard Google results in recent years. The changes made yesterday redirect traffic to google.com/ie, which formerly carried a search box, to a page that suggests downloading Internet Explorer with a pre-installed Google toolbar.

"Our impression was that these results were from Google's basic algorithms, and that extra features and ads were added on top of these generic results," Brandt wrote of the old set-up.

"Three years ago Google launched 'Universal Search', which meant that they added results from other Google services on their pages. But this simple interface we were using was not affected at all."

Some Scroogle users have begun using Ixquick, a Dutch search engine that stores no search records, while Scroogle is offline.

Google's chief executive Eric Schmidt recently drew heavy criticism by summing up his own attitude to privacy as: "If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place."

Scroogle's statement is here. ®


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: google; scroogle

1 posted on 05/11/2010 2:49:04 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: ConservativeMind

Article is here:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/11/scroogle_google/


2 posted on 05/11/2010 2:50:21 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: ConservativeMind

What are the options? Dogpile.com? They helped vets bring some doggies back from Afghan or Iran.


3 posted on 05/11/2010 2:51:08 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain/Graham = La Raza's Senators & Estefan-Rubio)
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To: ConservativeMind

Based on what Scroogle said, aren’t you jumping to a conclusion?


4 posted on 05/11/2010 2:53:15 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Frantzie

Well, there are two alternatives, but one will, I think, let cookies through to your computer so Google can still track you.

An easy, free way to get Google is from “HideMyAss.com”’s proxy service. But this is where cookies may still come through, I believe.

Another is to use IXQuick, but that scours Live.com and Yahoo, among others. But IXQuick never passes your IP to those engines and erases everything immediately. Also, it’s SSL mode for searching and lets you use a proxy link on search results so that you don’t exit the protection of IXQuick’s security.

Google, frankly, has better results most all the time, but IXQuick can be configured as your default search option, complete with other personalized settings from there.

Give either a try.


5 posted on 05/11/2010 2:57:08 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: Frantzie

http://ixquick.com/


6 posted on 05/11/2010 2:58:41 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: nickcarraway

That’s not my conclusion. The article is from The Register, and for some reason the forum didn’t post the website name nor the URL, but both show up as being there when I hit my Back button.

So I think the forum software is acting up.


7 posted on 05/11/2010 2:59:20 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: ConservativeMind
>"Scroogle, the privacy-friendly Google scraper, has been crippled"

Al says "Shove THAT up your router and spin!"

XoXoXoXo

Al


8 posted on 05/11/2010 3:01:08 PM PDT by scoobysnak71 (Never argue with stupid people. They drag you down to their level and win through experience.)
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To: ConservativeMind
Firefox users can:


9 posted on 05/11/2010 3:16:25 PM PDT by Spirochete (Texas is an anagram for Taxes)
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To: ShadowAce

ping


10 posted on 05/11/2010 3:24:44 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: ConservativeMind

Google sucks. I hate Google (company policy, not the engine).


11 posted on 05/11/2010 4:30:49 PM PDT by freespirited (There are a lot of bad Republicans but there are no good Democrats.--Ann Coulter)
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So if I buy the anonymizzer arent all my seaarches hidden?


12 posted on 05/11/2010 5:14:27 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("A corrupt society has many laws" - Tacitus)
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To: Chickensoup

Nah. They’re mostly free. The most popular one for quick searches is www.anonymouse.org. It’s got adverts but that’s it.


13 posted on 05/11/2010 7:22:48 PM PDT by max americana
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