Posted on 05/11/2010 5:29:32 PM PDT by marktwain
GCO member Jesus Gonzalez’ federal lawsuit in Wisconsin was dismissed after the judge granted the defendants’ motion for summary judgment. In his lawsuit, Gonzalez challenged his arrest in two separate incidents for disorderly conduct when openly carrying in retail stores. The court found no specific disorderly conduct on Gonzalez’ part, but went on to observe:
“No reasonable person would dispute that walking into a retail store openly carrying a firearm is highly disruptive conduct which is virtually certain to create a disturbance. This is so because when employees and shoppers in retail stores see a person carrying a lethal weapon, they are likely to be frightened and possibly even panicky. many employees and shoppers are likely to think that the person with the gun is either deranged or about to commit a felony or both. Further, it is almost certain that someone will call the police. And when police respond to a “man with a gun” call, they have no idea what the armed individual’s intentions are. The volatility in such a situation could easily lead to someone being seriously injured or killed.”
A copy of the order can be found here.
http://www.georgiacarry.com/gonzalez_westmin/
This is a strawman argument put forward by Judge Lynn Aldeman (a Clinton Appointee). He says that openly carrying a firearm is by definition (his definition) highly disruptive, though it is perfectly legal in Wisconsin and protected by the State Constituion. Then he uses this strawman to say the Wisconsin State Constituion doesn't protect it because the State Constituion doesn't say anything about protecting carrying of arms that is disruptive. This is what we get with Progressives. They define our rights and arguments out of existence. If it is so disruptive to carry a holstered pistol into a retail store, then how is it that police do it every day without causing panic and disruptions?
The way things are at present they have NO CONCEPT of what ordinary people face.
Here is the previous story on Jesus Gonzalez:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2244898/posts
Here is the link to the Decision by Judge Lynn Aldeman
http://www.georgiacarry.com/gonzalez_westmin/
I thought you would be interested in this followup.
Please count me in your list, thanks.
And how can we be sure that even a real police officer will use his weapons responsibly?
I wonder what store it was. Do they sell knives, baseball bats, chainsaws, pitchforks, lawn mower blades, (I saw Sling Blade)?
Exactly so. “Hatespeech” is the Orwellian start of that. Similarly, people who do not support the leftists become “non-persons”.
It was a Menard’s in Milwaukee. They probably sell all of the above, as they sold garden supplies.
Continuing to follow the reasoning...Whenever I see a Muslim, how can I know what his intentions are? He might explode! Or if I see a black man I don’t know if he will rob me or an obvious gay man might molest me or a liberal he might try to tax me. I just can’t be sure of their intentions and they make me uncomfortable so ban them all!
try walking into a restaurant with a pitchfork and a torch some time.. disruptive?
b-s
judges gone wild
LOL...excellent!
I have a feeling this will be reversed on appeal, if it is appealed.
Well great now everyone can get a concealed weapons permit since open carry is disruptive and we have a Constitutional right to Bear Arms. Idiots
Using absurdity to illustrate the absurd. Rush would be proud.
I am not at all certain about that, as it would be appealed to the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago.
This is the court that refused to incorporate McDonald.
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