Skip to comments.What Are The Best Ways To Defend Your Child Against Dumbing-Down??
Posted on 05/14/2010 12:23:51 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice
A mother in Oregon left some provocative comments on an article I posted about dumbing-down. She didnt like what was going on in her local school; neither did her children apparently. They were evolving ways to deal with this problem. Maybe there are ideas here that others can use.
People seem to assume there are two roads: homeschooling (which isnt practical for millions of parents); or living with the nonsense (which is killing the country).
This mothers third way was talking to her kids, explaining things, openly sharing her concerns, trying to undo damage as fast as it happens.
These quotations are from one parent. Please add ways youve dealt with dumbing-down. ---
I ask them a lot of questions about what they are learning in school. I ask them what they are being told in history class. I ask them if the teacher has some kind of agenda they are pushing. If one of my kids has been told something weird, I correct it. If I am not sure of the answer, we research it together.
I feel like the school takes the very simplest concepts and make them so convoluted that kids cant get around them sometimes.
My daughter was so upset with her homework that she was crying. Once I showed her the simple steps of solving the easy math problems made into a puzzle, she started doing them very quickly and angrily.
Both of our kids tell us (mom and dad) that they learn more from us here at home than they do at school. The really sad thing about that is we dont spend that much time really teaching them. All we are doing is helping them with their homework or debriefing them when they come home brainwashed.
My daughter gets frustrated because she has to show her work for the simplest thing that she already knows--like 2 times 5 is 10. Neither one of us can understand why it isnt enough to simply know the answer. Instead she has to waste her time making 2 groups of 5 little dots or xs. She is doing all this silly busy work instead of moving on to meatier stuff.
I believe this is an insidious way of muddying things up and making a person second-guess their thinking and trick them into believing they are stupid and render them incapable of thinking for themselves.
My son cant believe all the people he comes into contact with at school that simply have no clue, and the way the teachers lie to the students about history and current events is literally breathtaking.
I work with them about a lot of things and I either make them read or I read to them a lot. Reading is half the battle and the key to everything in life.
I dont know if this is a dirty trick on my son or a survival thing--you decide. I told him to do whatever he has to do to get through the system and pass. Put down the answers they want to hear and play their game. It hurts, but remember this and it wont hurt so much: They think they are winning. Let them think they are winning. Think of it as getting over on them as you quietly educate the friends and acquaintances of yours who will listen to reason and are strong enough to think for themselves.
Maybe thats the answer. We infiltrate all their systems and change from within. Use all their own Gramscian planks and Alinsky rules against them to further OUR agenda. Maybe we need to use all their dirty tricks and rules against them and rebuild from within just as they destroy from within. ---------------------------
[The Education Establishment is always claiming--dishonestly, I think--to teach something called critical thinking. But that is precisely what this mother is teaching her kids to do--think critically about their own education. Priceless....The link at top is to the article that prompted these comments: "The Secrets of Dumbing Down Revealed, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2505833/posts ]
#1) Remove your child from public school
Ha! That’s exactly what I was going to write! :-)
We’re homeschooling our three kids, FWIW.
Encourage them to read for the sake of reading. Recommend books to them. The trouble with schools is that so much of the lesson plan is indoctrination and “mental floss” of some form or another.
Homeschool. Keep them out of the typical public sports like soccer. Teach them yourself. Take them and do things.
You two beat me to it...remove your children from the clutches of public school and home school them. Or, a well chosen private school might be an option.
Flee government schools.
Just WHY is homeschooling “impractical for millions of families”?
If it’s a priority, you’ll make it happen.
You can tell what you value by what you prioritize.
Second income to support your lifestyle?
or, homeschooling your kids.
“#1) Remove your child from public school”
If this is practical, then do so; however, this is not always possible and when it isn’t, do as I (and the lady in this story) do: talk with your kids, show them the truth and be sure that your kids questions their teachers!
I was called to the school more than ten times (that’s how I knew I was doing a good job) to discuss my daughter’s refusal to accept the teacher’s point of view on things. During the last meeting, I asked the Principal if he wanted mind-numbed followers or students that wish to learn and really find the truth. He didn’t answer and I haven’t been called back to the school.
My daughter has a 104 in that class! She knows their answers, but always asks for clarifications and additional details. Other kids have started asking more questions in class too - she said the class has much more “conversation” about the history book and less “reading” of it!
You could buy good books for the kids and make them write you book reports or hold “saturday” classes for an hour or two to ingrain a love of freedom and real facts about history and things.
I want to see cooperative homeschools.
Why can’t I be paid to homeschool other peoples kids too? Just a few should be OK.
I believe this is an insidious way of muddying things up...”
That is exactly the reason. They do not want children to learn easily.
Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive but impossible to enslave.....................
Homeschooling is good and I have personally been associated with some of the best products. One of my scouts was a twelve grade homeschoooler and National Merit Scholar.
To say an average mother is capable of doing a better job of educating than the schools system is a stretch. Many can but for many the kids will not be better off.
My view is that a proper course is to parallel teach. Follow the classes closely and implement and strengthen as required. Develop library skills,surfing skills, testing skills, political awareness skills ans interest and fun skills. All of the above strengthen and counter weakness.
The kid will be an adult and in the real world. To be kicked out into the world after a sheltered and unprepared for life will be a real shock. I’ve had first hand bad experience with scouts like that too. The realization dawns that part of life was missed. It can be a real problem with a teen.
“Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive but impossible to enslave.....................”
which is bad business for democrats.
There are no laws opposing private tutors, are there?
I don’t see how your proposal falls outside of that definition.
And yes, there are plenty of homeschool co-ops around.
We have “math nights”, etc, amongst the folks that homeschool.
Frustration is the proper response. There's a reason why multiplication tables are MEMORIZED: it's because, like addition and subtraction of single-digit numbers, they're one of the raw building blocks of higher math.
Feeding my children is a priority in my home.
Homeschooling is very commendable, but I find that homeschoolers tend to make the rest of us feel like bad parents.
Other kids are drawn to my sons...if I teach them properly (after I explained taxes to my six-year-old, his response was, “But that’s STEALING, Mom!”) perhaps they can actually help lead other children to the truth. Like I did in public school.
Do you have to be vigilant? Of course. Is it something that can be done properly, even if both parents have to work just to meet the house payment? Absolutely.
Is it legal for you to find someone who already is homeschooling & pair up with them? If you have to work- can you pay another mother or dad to homeschool your kid? Is that legal?
Second income to support your lifestyle?
or, homeschooling your kids.”””
Can you & your spouse work on different shifts to homeschool the kids?
I want to see cooperative homeschools.
Why cant I be paid to homeschool other peoples kids too? Just a few should be OK.”
A perfect term to use-a cooperative.
Might be worth talking to a lawyer.
Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama is trying to get them back..................
There are places in the country where a house is affordable on one income. Seriously, there are.
“(after I explained taxes to my six-year-old, his response was, But thats STEALING, Mom!)
LOL! Smart kid.
I am in Southern California, and there are so many wonderful options like co-ops. What we do isn’t “my vision” of what I want for homeschooling, but as a single mom who has to work and still wants to home school it’s the best of all worlds.
My daughter is in kindergarten - she goes to school 2x a week, and I home school 3x a week. There’s only 6 kids in her class.
It’s their curriculum (Bob Jones) - I’d like less workbook work, but for now, it really works for us. There are at least 4 other schools that are similar in style and substance nearby. The teachers and parents who help in subjects get paid based on how many kids are enrolled. Tuition is very minimal.
There are tons of options out there if people look for it. I agree with another poster - I don’t want my daughter to have to butt heads with a teacher because of what is taught in class is so different than what is taught (or allowed) at home.
I can’t imagine ever putting my daughter into a “normal” public or private school.
Second income to support your lifestyle?
how about none of the above. we cannot afford private school. as for homeschooling.... i have a high school diploma, an associates degree from a community college, and a 15yr old son who is way smarter than i am. he is in advanced math classes and NJROTC. those are things i cannot provide in a homeschooling situation. i also have a very active 4 yr old who needs plenty of my time and attention. she would be disruptive of any homeschooling. please do not assume that those of us who send our children to public school are selfish and more interested in our own pleasures than our children’s education. we are fortunate in that our public school is a small town, conservative district with parents who stay involved and engaged. we don’t sit down and let a bunch of alinsky-ites teach our kids that communism is great and personal responsibility is child abuse. we can improve the public school system if we get involved and hold the administrators responsible. demand a better education for your child in the system your tax dollars support.
Not sure of your State or local laws, but that might become a daycare and be regulated.
Yes, we can call in “My Home Tutoring” hhmmmm
Find an abled and trustworthy teacher and pay them a small fee (maybe pay by the week or month) to home school your kids. This person does not need to know the answer to everything, thats why teachers’ books have the answers after all.
Reading, Writing, Math etc... field trips to the zoo, the museum etc Sounds like a great idea to me.
“Lincoln freed the slaves.”
Actually, he didn’t. The 13th Amendment did that. They teach in public schools that Lincoln freed the slaves, but no.
I know.but it fits............
Another reason for the separation of school and state.
Part of what I hate most about the institution of school is that it is an institution and people can not free themselves from the infrastructure. All that influence by your child’s peers is not necessary. The urban public high school ITSELF is a horrible thing to do to a child. Never mind what they are doing inside the classrooms.
Bells clanging, us-versus-them mentality, gates, imprisonment (especially if an act or G-d or of man occurs - try and get your child out if there was a shooting or an earthquake), walking in hordes, hall passes, drugs, competitive dressing, etc. I understand this treatment is necessary if someone has broken the law and SENTENCED to doing time, but otherwise, why do this to a good young person?
Right. Even a single mom could do it; she needs an in-home caregiver who will follow her instructions while she's not home, and she needs to do most of the schooling during the hours she is NOT working. You don't need much time. 3 hours a day is plenty.
School, especially high school, was a hateful place when I went there.
I do know some “single mom” homeschooling families.
Teach kids to read, and read to them. It takes about 30 hours of tutoring to teach a ready child to read, using Samuel Blumenfeld's Alphaphonics. Or, six+ years to produce a semi-literate book hater using "look say."
John Dewey bemoaned the negative effect that a love of books had on "socialization." His disciple Richard Gray took the concern to heart, and created a tool to prevent that dread event, the basal reader, starring his namesake Dick, plus Jane, plus Spot ...
This video must be watched.....
Math Education: An Inconvenient Truth
My second graders school district has adopted the Everyday Mathematics program shown in this video. It is as bad as the lady is saying, even at the second grade level. My wife and I have a very difficult time helping him with the math homework, because quite frankly this crap is hard to understand. All those old algorithms you grew up with, are not taught. They are replaced by alternative ways of finding the answer, that may work fine for math geeks who are proficient already in the old ways but tossing away the old tried and true way and replacing it is a mistake in monstrous proportions.
His school district use to be one of the best in the State, but it has moved way down the list. Many other districts are also now teaching this, and its because the state wide test is based on this math.
The results are starting to come in, and the kids are failing the state wide exam. So what do they do? Return to the older books that worked? Nope. They lower the bar on the math scores for a given time, having the math scores be a smaller percentage of the total grade.
I wish we could afford a private school, there are some good ones in our area, but its impossible. And as far as home schooling, one of us would have to quit our job, and that is a no can do . We do after-school him though with books recommended by fellow Freepers facing the same situation.
CONTROL is the name of their game..
Sam Blumenfeld is a hero.
I’ve always thought that would be an excellent way to home school if some of the others needed to work find 5 or 6 other people who want to do the same thing and arrage a schedule weekly about who’s day it is to teach anbd rotate the kids home to home.
Yes there are. We own two(one outrigth one mortgaged) and a piece of land to boot all on one income. :)
Limit tv programming consumption.
I see your point: Black man trying to enslave people... kinda like his ancestors. (That fits, too. lol)
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