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1 posted on 05/14/2010 12:23:51 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice
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#1) Remove your child from public school


2 posted on 05/14/2010 12:26:46 PM PDT by lionheart 247365 (-:{ GLEN BECK is 0bama's TRANSPARENCY CZAR }:-)
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Home school


3 posted on 05/14/2010 12:27:55 PM PDT by ironwill (III - Molon Labe)
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Encourage them to read for the sake of reading. Recommend books to them. The trouble with schools is that so much of the lesson plan is indoctrination and “mental floss” of some form or another.


5 posted on 05/14/2010 12:30:29 PM PDT by dr_who
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Homeschool. Keep them out of the typical public sports like soccer. Teach them yourself. Take them and do things.


6 posted on 05/14/2010 12:30:32 PM PDT by CodeToad
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It's unfair and unreasonable to expect your 7 yr old to "fight the system." How much better to allow them to flourish & learn without that pressure, rather than offer them up to a KNOWN failed experiment?

Flee government schools.

8 posted on 05/14/2010 12:32:57 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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You could buy good books for the kids and make them write you book reports or hold “saturday” classes for an hour or two to ingrain a love of freedom and real facts about history and things.


11 posted on 05/14/2010 12:38:06 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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“I believe this is an insidious way of muddying things up...”

That is exactly the reason. They do not want children to learn easily.

Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive but impossible to enslave.....................


13 posted on 05/14/2010 12:39:50 PM PDT by Red Badger (When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you'll know that its desolation is NEAR. Luke 21)
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Homeschooling is good and I have personally been associated with some of the best products. One of my scouts was a twelve grade homeschoooler and National Merit Scholar.

To say an average mother is capable of doing a better job of educating than the schools system is a stretch. Many can but for many the kids will not be better off.

My view is that a proper course is to parallel teach. Follow the classes closely and implement and strengthen as required. Develop library skills,surfing skills, testing skills, political awareness skills ans interest and fun skills. All of the above strengthen and counter weakness.

The kid will be an adult and in the real world. To be kicked out into the world after a sheltered and unprepared for life will be a real shock. I’ve had first hand bad experience with scouts like that too. The realization dawns that part of life was missed. It can be a real problem with a teen.


14 posted on 05/14/2010 12:41:47 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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My daughter gets frustrated because she has to show her work for the simplest thing that she already knows--like 2 times 5 is 10.

Frustration is the proper response. There's a reason why multiplication tables are MEMORIZED: it's because, like addition and subtraction of single-digit numbers, they're one of the raw building blocks of higher math.

Eeesh.

17 posted on 05/14/2010 12:42:41 PM PDT by pogo101
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Private School, religious or Home School.
32 posted on 05/14/2010 12:53:09 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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Ping


34 posted on 05/14/2010 12:56:01 PM PDT by Hoosier Catholic Momma (Arkansas resident of Hoosier upbringing--Yankee with a southern twang)
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Another reason for the separation of school and state.


35 posted on 05/14/2010 12:56:24 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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Part of what I hate most about the institution of school is that it is an institution and people can not free themselves from the infrastructure. All that influence by your child’s peers is not necessary. The urban public high school ITSELF is a horrible thing to do to a child. Never mind what they are doing inside the classrooms.

Bells clanging, us-versus-them mentality, gates, imprisonment (especially if an act or G-d or of man occurs - try and get your child out if there was a shooting or an earthquake), walking in hordes, hall passes, drugs, competitive dressing, etc. I understand this treatment is necessary if someone has broken the law and SENTENCED to doing time, but otherwise, why do this to a good young person?


36 posted on 05/14/2010 12:58:29 PM PDT by Yaelle
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travel...visit museums...battlefields...read to and with them...get a globe...buy maps...talk about the world over dinner...There are a thousand ways to teach outside school.
40 posted on 05/14/2010 1:04:46 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon ("I'll try to be NICER, if you will try to be SMARTER!" ~ MNJohnnie, FReeper)
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I was taught to read phonetically in first grade parochial school. Dumped into the public school system in fourth grade -- knew I was on alien turf -- and "dropped out" for the next six years. Kept a book open under the edge of my desk (especially science fiction) and coasted through on 10% effort. I survived school -- but still am crippled by the habits acquired in the process of doing so.

Teach kids to read, and read to them. It takes about 30 hours of tutoring to teach a ready child to read, using Samuel Blumenfeld's Alphaphonics. Or, six+ years to produce a semi-literate book hater using "look say."

John Dewey bemoaned the negative effect that a love of books had on "socialization." His disciple Richard Gray took the concern to heart, and created a tool to prevent that dread event, the basal reader, starring his namesake Dick, plus Jane, plus Spot ...

41 posted on 05/14/2010 1:09:37 PM PDT by RJR_fan (Christians need to reclaim and excel in the genre of science fiction.)
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This video must be watched.....

Math Education: An Inconvenient Truth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr1qee-bTZI

My second grader’s school district has adopted the “Everyday Mathematics” program shown in this video. It is as bad as the lady is saying, even at the second grade level. My wife and I have a very difficult time helping him with the math homework, because quite frankly this crap is hard to understand. All those old algorithms you grew up with, are not taught. They are replaced by alternative ways of finding the answer, that may work fine for math geeks who are proficient already in the old ways – but tossing away the old tried and true way and replacing it is a mistake in monstrous proportions.

His school district use to be one of the best in the State, but it has moved way down the list. Many other districts are also now teaching this, and it’s because the state wide test is based on this math.

The results are starting to come in, and the kids are failing the state wide exam. So what do they do? Return to the older books that worked? Nope. They lower the bar on the math scores for a given time, having the math scores be a smaller percentage of the total grade.

I wish we could afford a private school, there are some good ones in our area, but its impossible. And as far as home schooling, one of us would have to quit our job, and that is a “no can do” . We do after-school him though with books recommended by fellow Freepers facing the same situation.


42 posted on 05/14/2010 1:23:43 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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Limit tv programming consumption.


48 posted on 05/14/2010 1:34:59 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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Homeschool


51 posted on 05/14/2010 1:44:55 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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"What Are The Best Ways To Defend Your Child Against Dumbing-Down??"


52 posted on 05/14/2010 1:45:19 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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People seem to assume there are two roads: homeschooling (which isn’t practical for millions of parents)

The main reason it "isn't practical" is that many states only allow children to be homeschooled by their own parents (or a licensed teacher hired by the parents). As a few people on this thread noted, group homeschooling would be a great option for families that can't afford, or just don't want to have one parent completely leave the workforce. One parent could afford to stay home and teach, if she was getting paid a few thousand a year by parents of a few other children she taught along with her own. This would also allow for some grouping of kids by age, ability level, or special needs.

Of course, teachers' unions fight tooth and nail against proposals to allow non-parental, non-licensed teacher homeschooling, and other nanny-staters at the state level enact laws tightly regulating in-home child care in a way that would classify most group homeschoolers as in home child care businesses, and which would in many cases seriously interfere with running a homeschool the way you want to (including a good deal of remodelling of your house, visits by inspectors to make sure you don't have anything accessible to children that hasn't been government-certified as lead-free, fenced yard (even if you're on a remote dirt road), etc.

From time to time, I've perused the HSLDA website and been disturbed to note that this issue doesn't seem to be on their radar screen at all. I'm sure it would easily triple the number of US children who are homeschooled, if all states were pressured into allowing group/non-parental homeschooling with the same minimal restrictions that many already apply to parental homeschooling.

56 posted on 05/14/2010 3:42:26 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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