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Woman's hospital memories contradict "birthers"
The Daily Republic ^ | May 15, 2010 | Ross Dolan

Posted on 05/14/2010 11:02:15 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

U.S. House candidate Chris Nelson earlier this week dismissed “birther” statements attributed to him and said he believes Barack Obama is a natural-born U.S. citizen and the legitimately elected president of the United States.

So does Eleanor Nordyke — and according to her, she should know.

Nordyke, 82, of Honolulu, Hawaii, says that on Aug. 4, 1961, she was in labor with her twin daughters Susan and Gretchen at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital — the same place Barack Obama was being born. The hospital has since been renamed Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children.

“Birthers” is the term given to those who believe Obama was not born in the United States and does not, therefore, meet a primary qualification for the presidency.

Nordyke, in a Friday telephone interview with The Daily Republic, said the birthers have consistently discounted her testimony. She is certain they are wrong.

(Excerpt) Read more at mitchellrepublic.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: article2section1; birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; hawaii; honolulu; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; nordyke; obama; usurper
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To: marron
“My daughters’ birth certificates were 10637 and 10638, and Obama’s was 10641, so his mother must have come in after I did,” Nordyke said, though she never met Obama’s mother.
41 posted on 05/15/2010 12:10:13 AM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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To: Smokeyblue

82 years old and remembers who was being born in the same hospital as the one she was giving birth to? Yeah, right. “Hey, yo, you over there having the baby. Whass his name going to be?


42 posted on 05/15/2010 12:15:13 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: Persevero

I had one of my daughters in an Army hospital and there were 4 of us mothers to a room. We gossiped up a storm and even played cards but I could not tell you anything about those ladies or their babies- other than it was a fun group!


43 posted on 05/15/2010 12:22:29 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Smokeyblue
ROFL~~~~~

“My daughters’ birth certificates were 10637 and 10638, and Obama’s was 10641, so his mother must have come in after I did,” Nordyke said, though she never met Obama’s mother.

Like birth certs are issued prior to delivery and the numbers given at the hospital. HI DOH has already confirmed numbers were issued the day the certs were filed so Nelson is just another RINO trying to save face and avoid this constitutional crisis...nothing to see here, move on annoying ones.

44 posted on 05/15/2010 12:23:13 AM PDT by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: Persevero

When I had my youngest, all I know is that I had a huge L-shaped room, and there was another woman in the other side of the L, with her own bathroom. She was probably illegal. We both had C-sections, and I had to pay off my part of the costs that the insurance didn’t cover. It burned me up then, thinking that she didn’t have to pay ANYTHING for hers. I think it was her 3rd or 4th child.


45 posted on 05/15/2010 12:41:42 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: TigersEye

She never met Obama’s mother, but has his BC number MEMORIZED? I bet even Chris Matthews doesn’t memorize info like that.


46 posted on 05/15/2010 12:42:48 AM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: Smokeyblue

I was just wondering how many of the mothers here remember
any other baby that was born at the hospital the same day or later than there own babies. My 2 kids are in their mid twenties and honestly I could not even tell you who elses was born when my kids were born. Now this woman is in her eighties and she remembers? It is not like Barry was anybody famous when he was born and I bet his mother was less than memorable. I dont know this just popped into my mind.


47 posted on 05/15/2010 12:50:52 AM PDT by funfan
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To: Smokeyblue
oh those are the kids that was born before Obama was born but after obama was born according to the 'records.'
I hope I got that right. ha
48 posted on 05/15/2010 1:11:49 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: funfan

Oh come on when the Messiah is born you would know remember it!


49 posted on 05/15/2010 1:13:50 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: jarofants
Or what if Adolph had come to America, knocked up a teenage minor, took the baby back to Germany and raised it as a good widdle Nazi.

Would the spawn of Hitler be eligible?

50 posted on 05/15/2010 1:28:19 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you, O you most proud, said the Lord God of hosts.)
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To: Smokeyblue

“He loves Hawaii,” Nordyke said. “This was his home. I think that in his heart, Hawaii is still his home.”

I hate to break the news to the poor woman, Michelle is saying Kenya is his home country.


51 posted on 05/15/2010 2:29:14 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Smokeyblue

This article has the least useful information per word of anything I’ve read in a long time.


52 posted on 05/15/2010 2:53:26 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: Smokeyblue

Coached, and coached again.

Her comment that Dunham checked into the hospital after Nordyke — accounting for the birth certificate anomaly is the key.

“My daughters’ birth certificates were 10637 and 10638, and Obama’s was 10641, so his mother must have come in after I did.

1. That’s some memory — remembering 3 birth certificate numbers for 50 years.

2. And pay attention to the name of the number, “BIRTH certificate number,” not “ADMISSION number.”

Why would a person even have such a memory — and while under the influence of the usual birthing drugs that were widely used in 1961.

The rest of the article is so full of false “facts” as to make it useless.

If Obama was on the level, these Obots wouldn’t have to lie so much.


53 posted on 05/15/2010 3:36:57 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: OneWingedShark
I’m inclined to agree; why would she remember a birth-announcement from some unknown, about some random person, multiple decades later?

That's not hard to imagine. Some women are very interested in seeing the birth announcements for their kids in the paper. They would notice that others are published first. My wife notices all kinds of things I don't.

What she neglects to say -- IF this story is true -- is WHY she remembered this (skin color, unmarried parents, knew the mother, etc.)

54 posted on 05/15/2010 3:52:35 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: Smokeyblue
It was one of those picture perfect days that they always use for the postcards of Hawaii. It was Aug. 4, 1961 and I was at the hospital giving birth. Which hospital, you know the one where the President was born. I remember clearly since all the hospital staff was running around celebrating that President Obama was born. There were balloons, party hats and the drugs………….

There Fixed…….

55 posted on 05/15/2010 3:57:14 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: marron
"Could be just bad writing on the part of the reporter."

You don't seem to understand. The reporter talked to someone in Hawaii who had a baby at about the same time that Obama was born, so that's proof that Obama was born in Hawaii. Nothing more to discuss here. The reporter is a genius.

56 posted on 05/15/2010 4:35:11 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Nahanni

Do you have any idea what that may be?


57 posted on 05/15/2010 4:39:48 AM PDT by Josephat
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To: Smokeyblue

I couldn’t tell you one person, man or woman, who was in the maturnity ward when I gave birth to my daughters. I don’t think I saw one baby but my own twins. This person has an outstanding memory! /s


58 posted on 05/15/2010 4:40:13 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (So the writer who breeds more words than he needs, is making a chore for the reader who reads.)
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To: OneWingedShark

““My daughters’ birth certificates were 10637 and 10638, and Obama’s was 10641, so his mother must have come in after I did,” Nordyke said, though she never met Obama’s mother.”
So no she never saw Stanley Ann but she can recall a notice in a newspaper from all those years ago about a person who at the time of said notice was a complete stranger. Oh yeah,no reach in credibility there.
I’m of the opinion he probably was born in Hawaii but i also assume with all his efforts to cover up his past that he knows he not not constitutionally qualified to be President.


59 posted on 05/15/2010 4:49:59 AM PDT by wiggen (Government owned slave.)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

“... in the maternity ward when I gave birth ...”

My mom and MIL remember other mothers and babies BUT they were in wards in small-town hospitals.

And they were in for DAYS at a time.

We had three drive-thru deliveries and our hospital has private rooms for everybody. So I don’t know a thing about moms and babies in at the same times I was.

That said, her memory of the BC numbers is very odd. Almos liked she’d been coached. Nahh, not some nice old lady from Hawaii!


60 posted on 05/15/2010 4:55:26 AM PDT by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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