I’ve previously discussed my experience as a title clerk for an automobile dealership in college. Each dealership received a block of title numbers (and license plates) to use when titling new vehicles sold at the dealership. The title clerk worked for the dealership, not the DMV, and was a notary. During that discussion I posed that the hospitals could have operated in the same manner with the DOH, where a hospital employee, likely a head nurse(s) assigned the certificate numbers to the birth certificates from a pre-assigned block of numbers allocated to the hospital.
So, given that scenario, the charge nurse could have, theoretically, stamped/assigned the certificate number on a blank birth certificate form and given it to the delivery staff to have on-hand in the birthing room to record pertinent information about the birth and have the physician sign the birth certificate after delivery. That process would prevent fraud and save the physician from having to review and sign several birth certificates at a later time.
So if Stanley Ann was admitted after Mrs. Nordyke, then her delivery room and paperwork would have been assigned after Mrs. Nordyke’s.
I know from experience that the physician signed a bunch of hospital paperwork in the delivery room right after each of my children were born. He declared the time of birth and all that right there in the delivery room.
So it makes sense to me. I’m sure the birthers will disagree.
So if Stanley Ann was admitted after Mrs. Nordyke, then her delivery room and paperwork would have been assigned after Mrs. Nordyke’s.
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It sounds as if you believe that those numbers that we see stamped on the top of the birth certificates were assigned at the hospital and NOT at Hawaii Vital Statistics? Is that what you are saying?
As you may know, there are two numbers BETWEEN the Nordyke twins numbers and Obama's number.
Are you saying that Obama's mother probably not only came to the delivery room AFTER Mrs. Nordyke, she also came into the delivery room AFTER two other mothers, and that is why Obama's number is so far down the list from the Nordyke twins numbers? Thanks.
The problem with that theory is the reason the Nordyke twins' announcement appeared in the papers so late: the delivering doctor didn't sign the birth certificates until six days later. The physician would have signed or made notations on the hospital chart immediately following the birth, but that doesn't have any bearing on the certs.
Most of the young 'uns in our family were born in the '70's, and the general routine was that the nurse would bring a form to the mother within the first 24 hours after birth, ask her the questions and write the answers down. The numbered birth certificate would then come in the mail from the DOH a few weeks later in photostat form, the same as the Nordykes' in appearance, with instructions on how to inform the DOH if there were any errors on the form. It probably varied from state to state.
No one's really certain just what the routine was in Hawaii in '61, or how the BC's were numbered back then, and whether they were numbered at the hospital or at the DOH. Nordyke's just making a guess, the same as the eligibility-ists have.
And Nordyke isn't saying anything new in this article, nor is she necessarily lying. It's her perception of how it happened, and bless her soul, she's 82 years old.
The “birthers” are still awaiting plenty of other sealed and highly-protected documentation to be concerned with this analysis.