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New AZ law: Firms have no legal duty to have translators
azstarnet.com ^ | 5/17/10 | Howard Fischer Capitol Media Services

Posted on 05/17/2010 11:01:27 AM PDT by Nachum

PHOENIX - A Glendale optometrist's yearlong legal fight over what services he had to provide for a Spanish-speaking customer has translated into new protections for other businesses.

Gov. Jan Brewer has signed legislation affirming that nothing in state law requires businesses to provide "trained and competent" interpreters when a customer comes in speaking a language other than English.

Assistant Attorney General Michael Walker said that has probably always been the law. But that didn't save John Schrolucke from having to spend time and money defending himself and his practice before Walker's office finally dismissed the case.

(Excerpt) Read more at azstarnet.com ...


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KEYWORDS: aliens; az; law; new; translators
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To: ExTxMarine
so why should THIS dentist be REQUIRED to treat this patient?

What dentist? The article is about an optometrist.

41 posted on 05/17/2010 12:22:09 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98...PROCESS MATTERS)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!

This is America, we speak English here.

Get used to it...


42 posted on 05/17/2010 12:24:17 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Illegal is a Crime, it is not a Race ~)
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To: Myrddin

Agree with your assessment. The old adage, “in the country of the blind, the one-eyed man is king” is applicable here. In the gold old days, immigrants who didn’t speak English had to rely on others who did speak the language, in other words, had integrated into American society. This helped those basically too old to learn the new language but, even more, made the bilingual person a “hero” to the ethnic neighborhood, someone the kids would respect and try to emulate. Further, it pressured immigrants to get their children speaking English as soon as possible.

Now that so much can be done here without speaking English, the integrated immigrant is actually looked down upon as a traitor to his/her culture and kids are left language-retarded in this nation. It is a lose-lose proposition for the businesses and the immigrants. The only ones who win are politicians, bilingual education bureaucrats and ethnic manipulators who want to speak for (control) their fellow immigrants.


43 posted on 05/17/2010 12:38:17 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: Nachum
Some years ago, when it became clear that I would be spending more than a few months living in Japan, I went to the local driver's office in Tokyo to get a Japanese driver's license. The line was being held up by a pushy American woman who expected the locals to conduct their business in English.

Exasperated, one of the local officials finally shed his typical Japanese politeness and explained in broken, but understandable English "This iz Japan. If you can't understand Japanese, you should bring your own translator." Me, and half the other foreigners (and some of the Japanese) standing in line applauded. She just glowered and slinked away.

When it was my turn, the guy was extraordinarily helpful, perhaps because he saw me as the ring-leader in getting him out of that situation.

44 posted on 05/17/2010 12:38:40 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Has he outlawed the smell coming from Newark?


Uh, that IS Newark...

*rimshot*
45 posted on 05/17/2010 12:39:25 PM PDT by thoolou ("I may have invented it, but Bill made it famous." - David Bradley, inventor of Ctrl-Alt-Del)
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To: Nachum

More Arizona AWESOMENESS! Rick Perry, are you paying attention yet?


46 posted on 05/17/2010 1:10:03 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Tea Party. We are the party of NO! NO to more government! NO to more spending! NO to more taxation!)
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To: Nachum

Why the heck should an optometrist HAVE to provide a translator??

Years ago I knew a girl who worked as a sign language interpreter for the deaf. Deaf people hired her to accompany them to doctor’s appointments and other types of appointments. The doctors and other businesses were under no requirement to provide a sign language interpreter. The deaf person hired and paid for the interpreter. That’s how it should be. I’m not without compassion for anyone who needs an interpeter for some reason, but if businesses are going to be forced to provide them, we’re all going to pay for it and that’s not right.


47 posted on 05/17/2010 1:11:10 PM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: Nachum

Jan Brewer- doing the Chief Executive work that Obama refuses to do.


48 posted on 05/17/2010 1:11:13 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Tea Party. We are the party of NO! NO to more government! NO to more spending! NO to more taxation!)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

Sorry, brain flatulence!


49 posted on 05/17/2010 1:20:34 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go Home!)
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To: Nachum
So if an individual has limited English, what prevents him from bringing an English speaking friend or colleague with him? HMMM? Too much common sense all at once?
50 posted on 05/17/2010 1:24:05 PM PDT by ArmyTeach ( ...speak the truth, right the wrong, follow the King)
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To: Vigilanteman

Yep, when I was in Okinawa, I had my written test in English, but ALL verbal business was conducted in Japanese. My wife was scared, but I translated in my broken Japanese and he helped in his broken English.

My willingness to attempt to respect him and his country lead to a very quick and easy process where both my wife and I were able to get our licenses and easily purchase a car.


51 posted on 05/17/2010 1:26:04 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go Home!)
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To: massgopguy
In MA, a dentist has to pay for the translator of the patients choice. It turned into a scam.

So the person who allegedly doesn't speak English brings his cousin in to translate for $25 and hour? I tried to find something on this on the internet. I got nothing

52 posted on 05/17/2010 1:30:31 PM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: Nachum
“requires businesses to provide “trained and competent” interpreters when a customer comes in speaking a language other than English.”

Using that logic, a Dairy Queen would have to hire someone who could speak farsi in case an Iranian came in, and someone who can speak every language of all the Native American tribes (maybe Nick Cage could come in to help out), they'd need a Slovak speaker in case some one from Slovakia comes in for a blizzard.

A blizzard would have to cost about $11 just to maintain a large staff or translators.

53 posted on 05/17/2010 1:51:27 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (Language, Borders, Culture, Full employment for those here legally)
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To: Myrddin

On the other hand, a business that WANTS clients/customers from other nationalities would have a translator as a good business policy. It’s a choice.


54 posted on 05/17/2010 1:56:04 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo
On the other hand, a business that WANTS clients/customers from other nationalities would have a translator as a good business policy. It’s a choice.

Certainly. A business that sees value in having specific linguistic skills to attract customers is free to do that. It should not be something forced upon a business that doesn't want to do it. In the case under discussion, there were Spanish speaking doctors available in the office. The "customer" wasn't looking for service. She was looking for a lawsuit target. Epic fail...and well deserved.

55 posted on 05/17/2010 2:31:24 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: massgopguy
In MA, a dentist has to pay for the translator of the patients choice. It turned into a scam.

I would be calling the moving company and looking for a more suitable place to do business. That is just absurd.

56 posted on 05/17/2010 2:36:06 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: A_Tradition_Continues
What dentist? The article is about an optometrist.

Have you not heard of a dental/optometrist?

They specialize in eye teeth.

57 posted on 05/17/2010 2:38:53 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (No Romney,No Mark Kirk (Illinois), not now, not ever!)
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To: ExTxMarine
Okinawa was kind, letting you do the written test in English. However, as you discovered, the Japanese are amazingly kind, patient and understanding when foreigners make even a minimal effort to communicate in their language.
58 posted on 05/17/2010 8:20:20 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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