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The entire object is to prevent it from happening. That's why people who know better are patient and in no hurry to start shooting. Some have a better idea of how it would digress and would really, really rather avoid it.

I've tried to warn people of something before though and they seem to simply not hear me. Maybe it's that they don't want to outwardly acknowledge something they know is so terrible that they have trouble even thinking about it. Maybe they simply aren't capable of imagining it in their minds. But what I'm talking about is that when a certain large portion of middle America decide to change gears, and go the way of the "Sons of Liberty", they'll do so with total commitment to destruction and violence for the purpose of restoration afterwards. They'll have nothing left to lose and these are the most dangerous types of people to fight. NOBODY looks forward to fighting people with nothing to lose. They're only a little less fearful than fighting people who aren't afraid to die. They fight like nobody else! People just don't seem to understand what this means. But the types that I'm aware of aren't going to enter into something with any intention of turning around. They'll go into it with the goal of winning, or dying in the process...one or the other. Eventually, at some point in the process, they'll use tactics such as those used in Afghanistan and Iraq because they actually DO cause our leadership to back down. Eventually, they'll use them here on our soil. There are plenty of bridges to blow, and 24" culverts in which to install IEDs. I'm certainly NOT suggesting that anybody do such a terrible thing, but eventually it will be done. If somebody like myself can see the purist logic in it (moral issues aside), then certainly somebody else will as well. I'm not that unique! Our infrastructure is fragile! The choice destruction of just a few bridges could cause a major food shortage over vast amounts of real estate for days, perhaps even weeks or months. What are the authorities going to do at that point?... babysit all the bridges? They'll be in the same mode that they're in with Iraq, Afghanistan and a few other lesser known places. If they follow their own established patterns, they'll back down, draw a line, move behind it, and then declare victory... of sorts. But this will result in something which many have predicted for years; the break-up of The United States of America into more than one contiguous chunk on the North American continent. The losing side will be left vastly worse off than before. People don't remember that the South was economically depressed well into the late 1950s on account of the American Civil War. Too many in the south do however remember that in spite of their best efforts to stay uninvolved, they had houses burned, family executed, livestock killed, and lives ruined. There's a general "dangerous" mentality in the south and it's been increasing as political hostilities in D.C. increase. But I'm not the only one who observes this and it's fairly common knowledge in many social and political circles in the south.

Too many people have given me their version of how civil conflict would unfold on our soil and they always seem to forget elements of war such as kidnappings, beatings, extortion, torture, poisoning water systems, burning houses at 0200, or barns, or vehicles...with people in them. Imagine it being DANGEROUS to have a political bumper sticker on your vehicle, or in your yard. Imagine the climate whereby it would be dangerous to discuss politics at work, or in public. Imagine "hits" on political targets. We enjoy such a level of peace right now that our politicians live in "relative" safety. Few of them have even the likes of a full Secret Service contingent. How do you suppose it will go over the first time one gets his/her brains blown out from a distance while going out to get in the car in the morning? ...probably not very well. If people think that the above won't happen, let them not forget that the underpowered side will have to finance it somehow! War is all encompassing...enveloping, and it's truly terrible. But these people I'm talking about will pursue it with great energy and commitment if pushed passed a certain point. They're what we call "if-then" type people. They're very predictable! Everybody knows at least a few. IF you do something to them, you know they will DO something in reaction. They'll usually do the same thing in reaction, every time if possible, without fail. They're the same people who ALWAYS shoot (and kill if possible) home intruders, carjackers and assailants. The MSM doesn't report much on these types for obvious reasons. They aren't good for politics. They network with others around them. They have a plan (even if it's a small plan). They trust nobody except a very few people, and they don't talk much. They're inside of the military, law enforcement, government at all levels. They could be your neighbors, or sit across from you at church. They know who they are, and they know who the others are. Lately, they've been pondering....weighing the expense of breaking the law to restore the Republic. But they love peace, and so they're willing to suffer a great deal and wait to see if our national takeover can be averted through our (semi) democratic voting process. But their next step will be violent, bloody, and widespread. They'll stress local law enforcement and federal law enforcement to breaking point, and probably drag the military into action here on our own soil eventually as well. I've heard people joke about Blue Helmets on our soil. I don't think there's much to joke about.

Personally, I believe what a certain Freeper said about the above scenario. He said that it would be Bosnia x 10. We would suffer to the same degree as if it were a genocidal war, but it would be entirely because of differing political philosophies...to state it simply. That wouldn't change the awfulness of it though.

This is why I hope and pray that those in power stop eroding the foundation of our nation. Every brick they knock out of the foundation takes us closer to that point at which the ordinarily quiet and peaceful "if-then" people are pushed past their breaking point...that point at which they feel they nothing left to lose...and when this happens there will be no turning back. This nation will never, ever be the same after that if it happens.

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This nation will never, ever be the same after that if it happens.

I think you're talking about an armed "revolution" -- as opposed to -- a total outright collapse of the entire civil infrastructure and governing capability and sustaining power of this country. Those would be two different things, and I think they would be handled in different ways.

But, either way, I believe you're right... this nation would never be the same afterwards, because basically there would be no more nation, and it would never come together again.

Either one of those scenarios (the armed revolution or the societal collapse) would mean the end to the Constitution and the end to any kind of reasonable and good standard of living and the end to most all amenities that people normally enjoy today, no matter how poor they are. It's the end of it all... no matter how it turns out...

It's definitely not what one should be aiming for ...

Does not the Evil One love Chaos?

(But I skipped ahead in the book - it will be OK)