Posted on 05/21/2010 9:19:42 AM PDT by TSgt
hmmmmm
“I find it funny that if the NY Times or any other organ of the liberal media did a smear job on any conservative politician, some of the very people on this thread would be screaming outrage and would not accept the premise of the article, no matter how many facts cited. But if the same liberal media attacks the Pope or the Church, there is no questioning of the facts whatsoever.
Benedict/Ratzinger has done more to address the crisis in the priesthood than any previous Pope or prelate.”
You nailed it!!!!
The pope is cleared by whom?
Other Catholics?
Some letter that someone happened to *find* somewhere?
Just goes to show where some people’s minds are.
It’s no wonder the Catholic church is in such trouble and is not willing to clean up its act.
It’s pervasive.....
Let me guess....
You’re Catholic, aren’t you?
Looks like you really hit a nerve with this thread judging by the attacks on you.
Truth about the Catholic Church hurts for some, doesn’t it?
I’m a Catholic and appalled at the Church’s role in this. It has been going on for decades and decades. There is simply no excuse!
Even when I was a child going to Catholic girl’s schools, the nuns talked about how powerful Ratzinger was [I’m 60 now so it was a long time ago]. He is complicit.
The last time I said this on FR, my post was pulled. So be it.
They are in an impossible position. If they come clean they may be bankrupt. If they don't come clean they have to clear the problem up without the public really knowning and delay as long as possible to try and "run out the clock".
The question they have to answer is what's more important, their church or the truth.
Catholics by and large are democratic voters. Look at the Kennedy/Kerry regimes in Mass.
Where’s the Catholic Church when it comes to the abortion issue and pro-abortion Catholic politicians?
Oh? They’re where?
You obviously don’t pay attention
BTW, Bush won the Catholic vote.
“Nat. Review did equally well dicing up your boy’s fibs, as you already know.”
Would you happen to have the Nt’l Review link handy?
I wish more Catholics would recognize it.
What comes across is that way too many Catholics are making excuses for those involved, for those who should have stopped it, and for those who have not done anything about it for decades.
It should have been nipped in the bud as soon as it was recognized. Not addressing it expediently only gives credence to those who think that the Catholic Church has something to hide.
I think it's pretty obvious which they consider more important.
Catholics are furious with the abusive priests, and cover up from some bishops.
Are protestants furious with their abusive ministers?
“The pope is cleared by whom?
Other Catholics?”
What, are you looking for the NYTimes to tell both sides?
Try using your SEARCH engine and get BOTH sides from both religious and secular CONSERVATIVE media.
“Where’s the Catholic Church when it comes to the abortion issue and pro-abortion Catholic politicians?”
You sure don’t do your research, dear.
Start with priestsforlife.org, and then you YOUR OWN research.
The higher ups for sure, but does the majority of their church membership? I don't know. From what I've seen they are in the dark about a lot of things.
Since the story in this thread is so new, I haven’t seen the other side yet, but here’s the other side on a previous story:
“Sunday, April 11, 2010
The attacks leveled against Pope Benedict XVI get curiouser and curiouser.
Just so everyone is on the same page: first Benedict was accused of stopping a Church trial against a priest in Wisconsin. When that fizzled (because the priest died and the trial was apparently still ongoing) there were charges that he didn’t act quickly enough to laicize priests (never mind the fact that the priests were indeed removed from ministry).
This past weekend, the AP thought they had found the smoking gun: a 1985 letter bearing Ratzinger’s signature purportedly stalling the laicization of a priest. The AP got the story all wrong. Turns out the facts of the case exonerate Ratzinger entirely. For the record, Cardinal Ratzinger did not have authority over sex abuse cases until 2001. This case occurred in the late 80’s. The rule of thumb on all these stories is that the local bishop is the first person responsible for punishing priestly offenders and the one charged with protecting his flock from these menaces. To imagine that the Pope has the ability or the manpower to oversee and police the actions of every cleric around the globe is an infantile delusion. He is not Santa Claus. If the Pontiff had such powers, do you actually think there would be so many teaching and liturgical lapses throughout the Church? Phil Lawler does a great job examining the AP story here: http://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/otn.cfm?ID=632
It should be said that mistakes were most certainly made in dealing with priestly offenders and that the process of laicization was absurdly poky. But why is the media attacking the man in the Vatican principally responsible for streamlining the laicization process? Why go after Ratzinger—one of the few high-ranking Vatican officials who vociferously pursued these sex offenders?
There has been a coordinated push from the media and certain plaintiff attorneys (IE Jeff Anderson) to create a global narrative that implicates the Pope in every case of priestly sexual abuse since the Lord was in swaddling clothes. There are several reasons for this: 1) They want to drag the Vatican into litigation because they have already drained the coffers of many dioceses after years of court battles. 2) It serves the ends of those who despise the Church’s moral voice on issues ranging from marriage to abortion.”
more http://origin.ewtn.com/news/blog.asp?blogposts_ID=949&blog_ID=2
Pelosi, Kerry, Kennedy, and a host of other Catholic politicians are pro-abortion and what has the Catholic Church done about it?
Nothing....
Most Catholics vote democratic and support candidates who are liberal, pro-abortion and pro-homosexual marriage, and what does the Catholic Church do about all those parishioners?
Nothing.....
Pelosi tells the Catholic church to preach her immigration reform from their pulpits and what do I hear from the Roman Catholic Church about it?
***crickets***
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