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Feds taking over permits for Texas plants [EPA going after refineries]
chron.com ^ | May 25, 2010 | PEGGY FIKAC

Posted on 05/25/2010 10:27:17 PM PDT by smokingfrog

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Texas needs to tell the feds to get ------.
1 posted on 05/25/2010 10:27:17 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Hugo Chavez would be proud.

Communism is upon us. This is an unabashed and unconstitutional power grab by the feds.

In the not too distant past this would be enough of a cause for either secession or the start of a revolt.

Will Americans take this lying down, or actually come to their senses and put an end to this unconstitutional nonsense?


2 posted on 05/25/2010 10:33:05 PM PDT by Pox
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To: txhurl; Bender2; Allegra

Ping.


3 posted on 05/25/2010 10:35:15 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping.


4 posted on 05/25/2010 10:35:32 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: smokingfrog

They are doing the very exact thing they did to auto, bank; etc.

It’s time to stop them.


5 posted on 05/25/2010 10:35:34 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Army Air Corps; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; Entrepreneur; Darnright; Nipfan; Defendingliberty; ...
Thanx !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

6 posted on 05/25/2010 10:38:44 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (America should take a mulligan on the 2008 presidential election.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Ping!


7 posted on 05/25/2010 10:40:00 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: smokingfrog
This is what I was afraid of...

If the Dems are certain they are gonna lose big in November, they have nothing left to lose. They're gonna let their socialist freak flag fly.

8 posted on 05/25/2010 10:40:53 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: smokingfrog

So the complaint is that the Feds can’t monitor State permitted plants? There’s no proof that the Clean Air Act is being violated? The Feds hate right to work states. They hate that we have jobs and successful business in Texas. It’s about jobs and power. It’s time to sunset the EPA.


9 posted on 05/25/2010 10:44:38 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIA)
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To: smokingfrog; Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; maggief; Dog; BP2; Candor7; martin_fierro; ...

Ah, ANOTHER shoe drops.

‘slowly I turn, step...by step....’


10 posted on 05/25/2010 10:45:13 PM PDT by bitt ("WE THE PEOPLE" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVAhr4hZDJE)
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To: Pox
Will Americans take this lying down, or actually come to their senses and put an end to this unconstitutional nonsense?

Sadly Americans voted this Marxist regime into power. Fifty years of government school and media indoctrination plus degradation of traditional cultural norms through "popular culture" has done their destructive work. The socialist boa constrictor is tightening its coils for the kill.

11 posted on 05/25/2010 10:45:39 PM PDT by Bernard Marx (I don’t trust the reasoning of anyone who writes then when they mean than.)
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To: Bernard Marx

Too many power grabs for comfort.....


12 posted on 05/25/2010 10:59:22 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather ("BOOT The Communists Out of Your Govt.-Don't Take Their Goodies!" Yuri Bezmenov- KGB Defector)
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To: smokingfrog

At this point, Texas is doing the feds a favor by not seceding. I believe Texas is the only big state that isn’t a drain on the country.


13 posted on 05/25/2010 11:01:17 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist" - I Hate Mexico)
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To: smokingfrog

Where’s Rick? Is he going to stand by and let this go on?


14 posted on 05/25/2010 11:07:51 PM PDT by crosstimbers
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To: Army Air Corps

Thanks AAC! This will give Texas the opportunity to tell the federales to put it where the sun don’t shine. At the same time give us an opportunity to see what they’re made of. Maybe Perry could call Arizona’s guvnah for some pointers???


15 posted on 05/25/2010 11:10:10 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: crosstimbers
Perry : EPA action on permits a federal power grab
16 posted on 05/25/2010 11:16:52 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( - Free Men will always be armed with the Truth. -)
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To: smokingfrog

Al is a third generation Texan, descended from Mexican and Mexican-American grandparents who settled in the border city of El Paso. Born and raised in El Paso, he graduated from Coronado High School in 1988. He has also lived in
Houston, Albuquerque and New Orleans. Al currently lives in Dallas with his wife Cynthia, a public school teacher in Irving ISD, and two sons, Ferris and Simon.

http://www.smu.edu/News/2010/~/media/Images/News/Stories/Al-Armendariz-9nov2009.ashx?w=250&h=178&as=1

Al Armendariz , a Southern Methodist University engineering professor who has sharply criticized federal and state regulators for not cracking down on North Texas polluters, was named on Thursday as the Environmental Protection Agency’s new regional administrator over Texas and four adjacent states.

Armendariz , 39, an El Paso native, has found fault with Texas’ efforts on Dallas-Fort Worth smog, saying that the state’s programs did too little and that the EPA erred in approving them.

http://tinyurl.com/25lfqap

Armendariz will help carry out the Obama administration’s policies on curbing global warming, enforcing federal laws on air and water quality and toxic waste, and pushing for overhauls of Texas’ air pollution rules.

“I think the president and Lisa Jackson have clearly put the EPA on a different track,” Armendariz said Thursday. He cited moves toward controlling greenhouse gas emissions, tightening rules on toxic substances, and renewing efforts to protect communities, especially low-income, minority, and border areas, from pollution.


17 posted on 05/25/2010 11:18:22 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Just an anecdotal note.

I lived in Dallas for 12 years and didn’t notice a smog problem. First I’ve heard of a smog problem there. I should have heard or seen something in the local paper or news about it.


18 posted on 05/25/2010 11:37:21 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: smokingfrog

States need to start thinking about creating a new fed.


19 posted on 05/25/2010 11:40:30 PM PDT by pallis
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To: smokingfrog

Wow! This is bad news. I think it is time for states to begin the process of break all bonds with the federal govt. At minimum this might distract the Feds from their daily power grabs and shine some light on the power grAbs as they happen. At his pace the federal govt will own everything by the time 2012 comes along. The vote em out strategy is a failing strategy. It’s time...


20 posted on 05/26/2010 12:13:04 AM PDT by Pantera
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To: Bernard Marx

The 18 to 30 vote put him over the top. They are about to grow up fast. Axelrod’s game of using the kiddies (he did it to get Deval Patrick in too) has about played out I think. Can’t see another wave of Obama Zombies...the former wave will laugh at them for being the idiots they were.


21 posted on 05/26/2010 12:16:42 AM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: smokingfrog

Sarah Palin could be helpful on this one.


22 posted on 05/26/2010 12:22:41 AM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: smokingfrog

What exactly is meant by “federalizing” Texas refineries?


23 posted on 05/26/2010 12:43:03 AM PDT by Pantera
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To: smokingfrog
The timing is rather convenient I would say.

Just when Obama is on the ropes for his handling of the Gulf Oil Leak out comes the EPA power grab to punish oil and chemical polluters.

And the administration's man uses words the Enviro-wakkos like to hear when talking about big new enforcement efforts such as “Unprecedented”.

I can just imagine the tingle running up their legs.

24 posted on 05/26/2010 12:56:48 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: sheikdetailfeather
"Too many power grabs for comfort....."

Exactly. Air pollution certainly affects states downwind and Texas needs to play by the rules. But how do we know they didn't and this isn't just an excuse by Obama to federalize another industry?

25 posted on 05/26/2010 2:17:41 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: smokingfrog

We’ve never objected to 40 permits issued by a state permitting authority, and we’ve not federalized a permit in a state in this manner before unless we were requested to do so by a state or a particular facility,” Armendariz said. “The action we’re taking today, together with the 40 objections, is unprecedented.”

Texas to EPA: Don’t mess with Texas.”

Really, Texas legislature needs to criminalize this unconstitutional invasion by EPA.


26 posted on 05/26/2010 2:45:28 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: smokingfrog
Calling Rick Perry

Calling Rick Perry

Has anyone seen Rick Perry?

<<<(crickets)>>>

27 posted on 05/26/2010 4:31:53 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: smokingfrog; All

> Perry : EPA action on permits a federal power grab

Good for recognizing the problem, Perry. Yeah, it's called the 10th Amendment.

But enough talk — do something about it or the Federal government will
start shutting down these plants if it doesn't meet their “requirements”.

28 posted on 05/26/2010 5:37:05 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

Well, a little over a month ago the Bamster said that he was “comin’ for Texas.”


29 posted on 05/26/2010 6:08:05 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


30 posted on 05/26/2010 6:53:02 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: smokingfrog

Nationalized refinery licensing?


31 posted on 05/26/2010 6:55:12 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Pantera
What exactly is meant by “federalizing” Texas refineries?

$10 gal. (or higher) gasoline prices.

32 posted on 05/26/2010 7:17:07 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( - Free Men will always be armed with the Truth. -)
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To: smokingfrog
Yeah, that will really help the US economy.
33 posted on 05/26/2010 7:29:27 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: smokingfrog; bitt
The attempted takeover of commerce and industry continues.
I can only hope much of what the current goon squad puts into place will eventually be able to be overturned. I have my doubts.
34 posted on 05/26/2010 7:47:53 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: kcvl

Time to dig into Armendariz’s life. Little thugs working for The One usually have some nifty skeletons or some kind of fraud in their background.


35 posted on 05/26/2010 7:51:16 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping.


36 posted on 05/26/2010 8:38:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (...man was meant to be doubtful about himself, but undoubting about the truth-Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: smokingfrog

Private ownership, government control.

Isn’t that the textbook definition of fascism?


37 posted on 05/26/2010 8:38:39 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 489 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Pantera

Nationalize.


38 posted on 05/26/2010 8:46:26 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: smokingfrog

Anything and everything the Feds can do to screw Texas, will and has been done at the behest of the current administration...

And they will not stop...


39 posted on 05/26/2010 8:50:29 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: null and void

Yep. How long will people let the Feds play this game?


40 posted on 05/26/2010 8:52:57 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: stevie_d_64

We have to fight the Federal Beast.


41 posted on 05/26/2010 8:55:10 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: smokingfrog

If we had a real conservative governor we’d seceed. I doubt the former united states could push the Republic of Texas around much since they’d need our oil.


42 posted on 05/26/2010 9:15:14 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: Sarajevo

He was last seen combing his hair getting ready for his photo shoot for the new add for the “Coyote Pistol” named in his honor.


43 posted on 05/26/2010 9:18:47 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: Sarajevo
There is this.
44 posted on 05/26/2010 9:26:35 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Terry Mross
There is, at least, this.
45 posted on 05/26/2010 9:27:40 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Terry Mross

Who says we’d sell it to them???

;-)


46 posted on 05/26/2010 9:27:45 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: smokingfrog

This is how you test what your governor is made of. He has the duty to throw the EPA out for gross disrespect for state sovereignty.


47 posted on 05/26/2010 9:47:37 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: smokingfrog

But what’s he going to do? This is a really big deal. Especially after saying it’s a power grab. His statement doesn’t really leave much room for compromise so what’s he going to do? Spin it as a campaign issue?


48 posted on 05/26/2010 9:54:06 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: AlmaKing
I lived in Dallas for 12 years and didn’t notice a smog problem.

When you lived there, carbon dioxide was not an EPA recognized pollutant. Can't see it, can't smell it, can't taste it, but you better believe they can regulate it.

49 posted on 05/26/2010 10:06:27 AM PDT by gundog (Outrage is anger taken by surprise. Nothing these people do surprises me anymore.)
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To: smokingfrog

Don’t let the feds get ‘em. Burn the NMFers to the ground first. Eff these plunderers!


50 posted on 05/26/2010 10:08:50 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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