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Cops furious at 'don't-kill' bill
NY Post ^ | May 25, 2010

Posted on 05/26/2010 3:57:47 PM PDT by KeyLargo

New York Post Updated: Tue., May. 25, 2010, 10:43 AM home Cops furious at 'don't-kill' bill

By MURRAY WEISS, Criminal Justice Editor

Last Updated: 10:43 AM, May 25, 2010

Posted: 3:13 AM, May 25, 2010

City cops are livid over a legislative proposal that could handcuff the brave officers involved in life-and-death confrontations every day -- requiring them to shoot gun-wielding suspects in the arm or leg rather than shoot to kill, The Post has learned.

The "minimum force" bill, which surfaced in the Assembly last week, seeks to amend the state penal codes' "justification" clause that allows an officer the right to kill a thug if he feels his life or someone else's is in imminent danger.

The bill -- drafted in the wake of Sean Bell's controversial police shooting death -- would force officers to use their weapons "with the intent to stop, rather than kill" a suspect. They would be mandated to "shoot a suspect in the arm or the leg."

Under present NYPD training, cops are taught to shoot at the center of their target and fire their weapon until the threat has been stopped.

"These are split-second, spontaneous events -- and officers have to make a full assessment in a fraction of a second," said an angry Michael Paladino, president of the Detectives Endowment Association. "It is not realistic, and it exists only in cartoons.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: deadlyforce; guns; newyork; police
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Oh great. Now NYPD will have to attend the Annie Oakley school of trick shooting.


1 posted on 05/26/2010 3:57:47 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Just the latest liberal stupidity.

Wouldn’t it be better if police were properly drilled so they could hit what they aim at?


2 posted on 05/26/2010 4:03:42 PM PDT by Tarpon (Obama-Speak ... the fusion of sophistry and Newspeak. It's not a gift, it's just lies.)
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To: KeyLargo

LMAO stupidity !

Cops in NY will just need to shoot till they hit an arm or a leg......


3 posted on 05/26/2010 4:04:04 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: KeyLargo

It should not be shoot to kill, or shoot to wound. It should be shoot to stop the action or the threat. Center mass can be taught easily and learned and committed to almost instinct. Annie Oakley, indeed, would have to be the range instructor.


4 posted on 05/26/2010 4:05:01 PM PDT by CH3CN
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To: KeyLargo

Just because you shoot somebody in the arm or the leg, does not mean he is going to stop fighting!

5 posted on 05/26/2010 4:07:02 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: KeyLargo

One time they shot at a suspect 27 times and missed ....


6 posted on 05/26/2010 4:08:13 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Those That Turn Their Swords into Plows Will Plow For Those That Don't.)
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To: KeyLargo
It is not realistic, and it exists only in cartoons.

welcome to Odumboworld

7 posted on 05/26/2010 4:10:07 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: KeyLargo

I think The Rifleman, The Lone Ranger, Gene Autry, Cheyenne, Maverick, Paladin, et. al. basically shot the gun out of the bad guy’s hand.


8 posted on 05/26/2010 4:10:41 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: KeyLargo

The sights are there for a reason.


9 posted on 05/26/2010 4:11:44 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Squantos

LOL, there is no forensic evidence to tell which bullet hit first ... is there? I don’t think so.


10 posted on 05/26/2010 4:12:21 PM PDT by library user
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To: KeyLargo

Phil Engledrum once wrote that the FBI standard of marksmanship was so low that they ought to be required to carry Uzis in shopping bags.


11 posted on 05/26/2010 4:13:02 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Mexico presents a more profound threat to our territorial integrity than Germany or Japan ever did.)
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To: KeyLargo

How about we just limit the LEOs to a sternly worded warning... on paper? Works for the UN.


12 posted on 05/26/2010 4:13:12 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: KeyLargo
Who knows where a cop was aiming?... "I was shootin' at his leg, but unfortunately hit him between the eyes ."
13 posted on 05/26/2010 4:13:23 PM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: KeyLargo

They ought to all quit and tell the NY legislature to do what they can to protect the people.


14 posted on 05/26/2010 4:13:34 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Illegal is not a race, it is a crime)
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To: Doogle

Welcome to Mayor Blooming-idiot’s world.


15 posted on 05/26/2010 4:15:20 PM PDT by Carley (WE CAN SEE NOVEMBER FROM OUR HOUSE)
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To: CH3CN

Ya know... shooting to wound is considered taboo in hunting. The least humane way to dispatch prey is to wound. There are no animals in the entire catalog of species that simply “wound” for no reason. Humanity is taking one step after another into territory that got our ancient ancestors killed. Why do you think we never hear about the great hunter gatherers of Australopithicus Obamanuts?


16 posted on 05/26/2010 4:19:46 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Doogle

17 posted on 05/26/2010 4:21:38 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
Sponsored by Brooklyn Assembly Members Annette Robinson (D-Bedford Stuyvesant) and Darryl Towns (D-East New York)
The Amish protecting their own again.

18 posted on 05/26/2010 4:22:30 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: library user

Yep.....law is law !

Shoot low Sheriff he’s ridin a shetland.....


19 posted on 05/26/2010 4:22:51 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: KeyLargo

20 posted on 05/26/2010 4:23:05 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving.)
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