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Glitch shows how much US military relies on GPS
AP via Google News ^ | 6/1/2010 | AP via Google News

Posted on 06/01/2010 10:28:07 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

A problem that rendered as many as 10,000 U.S. military GPS receivers useless for days is a warning to safeguard a system that enemies would love to disrupt, a defense expert says.

The Air Force has not said how many weapons, planes or other systems were affected or whether any were in use in Iraq or Afghanistan. But the problem, blamed on incompatible software, highlights the military's reliance on the Global Positioning System and the need to protect technology that has become essential for protecting troops, tracking vehicles and targeting weapons.

"Everything that moves uses it," said John Pike, director of Globalsecurity.org, which tracks military and homeland security news. "It is so central to the American style of war that you just couldn't leave home without it."

The problem occurred when new software was installed in ground control systems for GPS satellites on Jan. 11, the Air Force said.

Officials said between 8,000 at 10,000 receivers could have been affected, out of more than 800,000 in use across the military.

In a series of e-mails to The Associated Press, the Air Force initially blamed a contractor for defective software in the affected receivers but later said it was a compatibility issue rather than a defect. The Air Force didn't immediately respond to a request for clarification.

The Air Force said it hadn't tested the affected receivers before installing the new software in the ground control system.

One program still in development was interrupted but no weapon systems already in use were grounded as a result of the problem, the Air Force said. The Air Force said some applications with the balky receivers suffered no problems from the temporary GPS loss.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: glitch; gps; gpsreceivers; miltech; satellite; trimble; usaf; usmilitary

1 posted on 06/01/2010 10:28:07 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

Never throw those old maps away. Being an old Aeroscout, I often wondered about this.


2 posted on 06/01/2010 10:30:34 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("A Republic, If You Can Keep It" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Excellent. Everything is going according to PLAN. As in People's Liberation Army/Navy. Asymmetrical warfare is how they get it done. Someone's Blackberry was busy sending the AP/Yahoo link to their masters. We can't swat a couple of mooselimb flies, how do we defeat a dragon?
3 posted on 06/01/2010 10:43:20 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (If the right has TEABAGGERS, then the left has SCUMBAGGERS and DOUCHEBAGGERS!!!)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Anyone who depends solely on a GPS unit deserves to get lost.

Ya, I still have my USGS and military maps and carry a MilSpec (MIL-PRF-10436N) compass. Yes, it is in degrees and mils.


4 posted on 06/01/2010 10:47:03 PM PDT by ASOC (Things are not always as they appear, ask the dog chasing the car)
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To: sonofstrangelove
We (properly) spend a enormous amount of energy protecting this global asset. It is not only key to our own security but to the economic freedom being generated throughout the world.

We could properly levy a tax on the rest of the world for its availability and use. We don't and we never even mention it as a (probably the most) practical reason to grant our status as “Exceptional”.

Every civilization in the world is given access to there exact location and time. It is worth given some thought as to how great a gift to humanity it is to know exactly where you are at any given time.

I can think of no other technological advance that those who would seek to slow the growth of advancing civilizations would go after. crow fighter out

5 posted on 06/01/2010 10:47:34 PM PDT by ghannonf18 (Honorable service for 8 Years under a draft dodger,8 under a great American, TBD)
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To: ghannonf18

I agree with you.


6 posted on 06/01/2010 10:48:20 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: sonofstrangelove

save


7 posted on 06/01/2010 11:03:34 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Eagles6

Bump.


8 posted on 06/01/2010 11:05:29 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Socialist/Jihadist Obama Boats: Blockade running in support of terrorists since 2010.")
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To: sonofstrangelove

“that enemies would love to disrupt”

“enemies”? what “enemies”? be specific...

OUR enemies”?

enemies of global peace & understanding?

islam?

the russians?

the chicomms?

as far as big media have told us, we have no enemies..


9 posted on 06/01/2010 11:36:49 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: ghannonf18

“We could properly levy a tax on the rest of the world for its availability and use”

Global tax would be a bad thing. But encoding it & charging would not.

But while we’re on the siubject, why is all US government Internet data, terabytes apon terabytes of it, available to any korean/vietnamese/chinese/sudanese that wants it?

Why is all US federal information produced declared to be “in the public domain”? Surely that should be for US citizens only.


10 posted on 06/01/2010 11:39:23 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: sonofstrangelove
"If you load a mud foot down with a lot of gadgets that he has to watch, somebody a lot more simply equipped – say with a stone ax – will sneak up and bash his head in while he is trying to read a vernier."
--Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers
11 posted on 06/02/2010 2:38:27 AM PDT by jonascord (We've got the Constitution to protect us. Why should we worry?)
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To: jonascord

I like that quote.


12 posted on 06/02/2010 2:40:35 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Notice the real money quote here: “American style of war.” Meaning precision, speed. If GPS disappeared tomorrow, we could still fight like we used to by carpet-bombing the hell out of an area. Ground forces could still get from Point A to B (we still teach basic land nav with compasses and maps, don’t worry) and kill whoever we want when we get there. GPS just allows us to do it faster with less loss of innocent life. That’s all.


13 posted on 06/02/2010 2:47:04 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Future Snake Eater
(we still teach basic land nav with compasses and maps, don’t worry)

You could have had me fooled. I haven't seen a 1:50,000 map over here. There are plenty of ONC maps, and a whole slew of specialty maps, but those used for navigation are in short supply.

At times, I think these boys would be lost without all their toys.

14 posted on 06/02/2010 3:07:42 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Future Snake Eater
There is no such thing as "innocent." There are just varying levels of threat.

We have made it easy for the Bad Guys to swim and hide in the Ocean of the People, with our PC delusions of precision munitions, and RoEs. We are paying for it, with what is now the longest war in American military history.

Something to consider for the future: If the US military were one tenth as sadistic as the Leftists say we are, 'Stan would be a radioactive ashtray.

If American Socialists ever achieve power over an obedient, quasi-military organization with modern US technology, Orwell's vision of a boot on the neck of humanity, forever, will come true.

15 posted on 06/02/2010 3:15:21 AM PDT by jonascord (We've got the Constitution to protect us. Why should we worry?)
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To: Future Snake Eater
There is no such thing as "innocent." There are just varying levels of threat.

We have made it easy for the Bad Guys to swim and hide in the Ocean of the People, with our PC delusions of precision munitions, and RoEs. We are paying for it, with what is now the longest war in American military history.

Something to consider for the future: If the US military were one tenth as sadistic as the Leftists say we are, 'Stan would be a radioactive ashtray.

If American Socialists ever achieve power over an obedient, quasi-military organization with modern US technology, Orwell's vision of a boot on the neck of humanity, forever, will come true.

16 posted on 06/02/2010 3:15:22 AM PDT by jonascord (We've got the Constitution to protect us. Why should we worry?)
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To: Sarajevo

You don’t have maps? When we (a Stryker BDE) deployed to Iraq, we took a ton of navigation maps with us. We never used them, they never came out of the connex, but we had ‘em.


17 posted on 06/02/2010 3:17:52 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: jonascord

There’s preventing casualties and there’s hamstringing yourselves to the point of ineffect. We’ve passed into the latter, especially in Afghanistan.

And, yes, there are innocent people out there. Sometimes they get killed and it absolutely sucks, but we do our best to prevent it.


18 posted on 06/02/2010 3:20:13 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; sonofstrangelove

I’m a techie, and the first thing you do with new software is TEST IT IN THE LAB.

Morons.


19 posted on 06/02/2010 6:45:19 AM PDT by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
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To: sonofstrangelove

I believe this is referred to as an Achilles heel.


20 posted on 06/02/2010 6:47:23 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: sonofstrangelove
What's the most dangerous weapon in the US Army inventory?

Answer: a second lieutenant with a map.

Over-reliance on technology can be a very bad thing.

I didn't need a map my last two years in Germany. I knew where all of the best bachereis und gasthauses were in my area of operations, which spanned an area from Hahn AB to Bitburg AB.

21 posted on 06/02/2010 6:56:01 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: Future Snake Eater

We use aerial navigation charts to plot locations.


22 posted on 06/02/2010 9:08:02 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: jonascord
Great quote, and salient point.

I used to tell my soldiers, "Technology is wonderful, when it works."

Being a technical support type, though, I know from experience that equipment fails, often when you need it the most. If you have no backup skills / tools, you're out of commission.

Not to mention that we carried a lot of weight in batteries, and the re-supply was sometimes not able to keep up with the requirement.

A map, and a compass, and the skills to use them, are still important to the ground-pounders.

23 posted on 06/02/2010 9:34:02 AM PDT by aragorn (We do indeed live in interesting times. NRA, GOA, SAF, CCRKBA. FUBO.)
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