Bill would ban carrying unloaded guns publicly(CA)

signonsandiego.com ^ | 2 June, 2010 | Michael Gardner

[marktwain]

SACRAMENTO — Assembly Democrats on Tuesday pushed through a fiercely contested gun-control measure that would ban Californians from carrying unloaded weapons in public.

The “open carry” measure, which passed without a vote to spare, 41-25, now goes to the Senate, where its fate is uncertain. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has yet to take a position.

“With rights come responsibilities,” said Assemblywoman Lori Saldaña, D-San Diego, who is the author of Assembly Bill 1934. “Carrying a gun simply because you can is not responsible ownership.”

The measure failed to attract support from Republicans, who argued that it was tantamount to an attack on law-abiding citizens, it would violate Second Amendment rights to gun possession, and that there have never been any criminal problems associated with open-carry advocates.

“This is a backhanded, even acute way, of implementing gun control,” said Assemblyman Jim Nielsen, R-Biggs. “I assure you that criminals don’t worry about this. They have the guns, and they know how to conceal them, how to use them.”

[marktwain]

While Arizona moves toward freedom and protection of the border, California moves toward elimination of Constitutional rights.

[gogogodzilla]

Looks like California wants people to only open-carry loaded weapons, then...

[tgusa]

Welcome to CA, where your rights disappear nearly as quickly as your money.

[umgud]

So, no open carry, and damned few ccw’s. I assume locked container carry. I wonder if there are exemptions for hunting, plinking?

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"The “open carry” measure, which passed without a vote to spare, 41-25, now goes to the Senate"

Can someone explain this sentence to me? It barely passed but it had a 16 vote margin. How is that passing without a vote to spare???

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"Looks like California wants people to only open-carry loaded weapons, then..."

I think that's already illegal in Cali. It's a may issue state which means that unless you're connected you don't get a conceal carry permit so the only way normal citizens can carry is open carry and unloaded...

[Vaquero]

there just pipes without ammo.

Load those weapons, LaLa Landers!

[andy58-in-nh]

Of what use is it to carry an unloaded gun?

[Vaquero]

oooops

thats They’re not there....

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"Of what use is it to carry an unloaded gun?"

It was explained to me one time that if you're carrying an unloaded pistol you can carry loaded magazines in your pocket.

I guess if there's a situation that arises you'll probably have to await commands from the line officer. With a magazine and five rounds, load. All ready on the right, all ready on the left. The line is ready. You may commence firing once your target appears.

[Puppage]

Of what use is it to carry an unloaded gun?

It's called a paperweight.

[fire4effect]

Why walk around with an unloaded gun? Sounds like a stupid idea to me.

[olezip]

“With rights come responsibilities,” said Assemblywoman Lori Saldaña, D-San Diego, who is the author of Assembly Bill 1934. “Carrying a gun simply because you can is not responsible ownership.”

Is Lori in charge of the "thought-police?" Is she the judge and jury on what constitutes "responsible ownership?" Or is Lori just another politician with a disordered mind? Her vision of utopia is a world without guns. Of course she wants to take away guns from law abiding citizens because that is far easier than taking them away from criminals. Then she and her ilk will "feel better" about themselves for trying.

[izzatzo]

In the land of fruits and nuts, nothing makes sense, particularly when it’s run by democrats.

[LibLieSlayer]

Why don’t you Californians just give up and split up? Your State is lost forever.

LLS

[GenXteacher]

No one could pay me enough to move to California.....

[andy58-in-nh]

Exactly - for as we all know, real life threat conditions approximate those on the target range. /s

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"Exactly - for as we all know, real life threat conditions approximate those on the target range. /s"

I joke with my Dad sometimes out on the range that if someone ever breaks in, he'll have to call out. Hold on for a second, wait until I get my shooting glasses on and adjust my Merit eye aperture. It's dark let me adjust my laser sights. How far away are you?

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"No one could pay me enough to move to California....."

True, but it is a good vacation spot...

[paul51]

“Carrying owning a gun simply because you can is not responsible ownership.”

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