Islam indoctrination in U.S. textbooks

Renew America ^ | June 3, 2010 | Jen Shroder

[Coleus]

I suggest this book for all Americans, I am half-way through it and the research is exhaustive. ...

Thanks, I’ll check it out.

[Tired of Taxes]

This idiocy is CAUSED by the unconstitutional heresy of separation of church and state. At the end of the day, we're either a Christian nation (not established by the state, but through free exercise of religion like America was until the 20th century), or we’re duped by every snake-oil salesman, huckster, and jihadist to come down the pike.

All true. It's all happening right before our very eyes. What we really need now is a separation of school and state.

[Tired of Taxes]

Glad we homeschool, too, whenever I read these articles. This Islam pamphlet/workbook is pure indoctrination. There’s no question about it.

[Jim W N]

What we really need is a spiritual Third Great Awakening,

What do I think is going to happen? Another fully-dimensional spiritual revival seems farfetched, but God sometimes does farfetched things. I'm convinced, however, that when America goes, the world will go every quickly. I don’t think the question is if, but when. Either God will extend his mercy for yet awhile (maybe a few more decades) allowing more to come into salvation, or today's Day of the Liberals will now quickly bring on the Day of the Lord. Then the prophecy will be fulfilled, "The vile person shall be no more called liberal." (Jer 32:5).

From God’s promises to me personally, I think there’s going to be a delay. This is an opportunity for more to come to know Him. It’s also an opportunity for God to change our hearts from leaning so hard on the goodness and blessings of a free America, to fixing our gaze and our hearts on His Kingdom which is not only literally coming with Christ’s return, but also spiritually in our midst now. We need God to open our eyes to His kingdom and fall in love with Him and His Kingdom more than America. This may take some doing for me. But sometimes, God has to remove the good (at least in our hearts, if not in circumstance) in order for us to receive and enjoy the best. And our heart's cry: "Even so, Come, Lord Jesus."

[Jim W N]

In the early 90's our pastor preached that the church should stay out of the affairs of state. I sent him this book and not too long after, change came and, later, this man and our church became the vanguard and leader of other churches in the area of political activism, greatly influencing the overthrow of a previously popular pro-gay bill.

We’re now in another state and an important pastor here is saying the same thing, extolling the virtues of separation of church and state. I’m planning on sending him this book and hope it works in his life like it apparently with our previous pastor.

[wintertime]

What we really need is a spiritual Third Great Awakening,
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Perhaps we should start with our **own** children.

A Christian’s **most** important and urgent mission field is that of his own children. His second most important mission field is that of the children of his own congregation.

We must get our children out of godless government schools that teach child to think godlessly. We must get them into conservative Christian schools, and offer that opportunity to as many other children as possible.

We must work for the complete shut down of government schooling.

[RJR_fan]

What we really need is a spiritual Third Great Awakening,

Actually, something even better is in progress: a Reformation, a movement to apply God's Word more consistently to everyday life. Here in the USA, there are literally millions of families participating in this reformation, quietly and under the radar. As our godfather RJR wrote, history is never shaped by majorities, but by minorities that stand fast in terms of their faith.

It's going on now. Come on in, the water's fine!

[RJR_fan]

Glad we homeschool, too, whenever I read these articles. This Islam pamphlet/workbook is pure indoctrination.

Home school families have a unique opportunity to "take the battle to the enemy." Adopt college students from Muslim nations. Welcome them into your home. Let them see that Hollywood lies -- there really ARE Americans who take faith and family seriously. Study their languages and cultures.

Your family -- happy, friendly, thoughtful, sharp -- will be more than half of your witness.

Help these kids with their English -- they are the best and the brightest in their native lands, but English is a VERY weird language. Show an interest in their language, and you'll have a superhighway into their hearts.

[Jim W N]

As long as Jesus is being glorified by the Holy Spirit in truth by His grace and love, then hopefully it's something that's helping people to get closer to Him and allow Christ to be formed in them.

That's good for consecration that Jesus may have his way in us, but a spiritual awakening, a revival where the unsaved suddenly know they're not saved, drop to their knees and repent - this comes form the sovereign will of the Lord and the church in intercession. Without this type of radical revival that can only come from the Spirit of God, I think America's days are numbered.

This also may be God's will. He's definitely preparing His Bride for His coming.

[RJR_fan]

That's good for consecration that Jesus may have his way in us, but a spiritual awakening, a revival where the unsaved suddenly know they're not saved, drop to their knees and repent - this comes form the sovereign will of the Lord and the church in intercession.

Been there, done that, got the tishöt. (Turkish spelling for our word tee-shirt, pronounced same way!) My born-again walk with God began in the maelstrom of a genuine supernatural move of God, so I know such things can and do happen.

HOWEVER (and this is a MAJOR caveat!) as a man I usually hold in low esteem pointed out, churches that experience supernatural revival are usually WORSE OFF a few years later. Kinda like folks who win big in the lottery: five years later, they're normally bankrupt. Probably divorced. Frequently dead by their own hand.

The first American great awakening was a major leap forward for Unitarianism. The second engendered Mormonism and the War Between the States.

Yes, because God hears prayer and honors faith, we can "pray down" revival. The results are comparable to watermelons hanging from grape vines: large, juicy fruit, without the infrastructure to support it. Reformations are scholarly, thoughtful, movements. Reformations engage the mind and the life, not just the emotional/experiential dimension of life. A reformation is going on now. Even as Luther disengaged Christianity from its bondage to Italian power politics, today's reformers are disavowing and disdaining the American state church. They are, in their quiet way, building a new social order under the nose of the status quo.

Come on in, the water's fine, and the future is as bright as the promises of God!

[Jim W N]

Come on in, the water's fine

You don't know me from Adam but presumptuously assume I'm not in this water you speak of.

The only (spiritual) water I'm interested is the River of Life and I'm already in there. Not sure what water you're talking about, but your lack of candor about what you're talking about is suspect.

[litehaus]

"What’s an *ACLU*?"

A nti

C hristian

L iberals

U nited

A large private club on the East and West Coasts

[metmom]

I’ve heard that and others for them.

If you read post 7 that I was responding to, you’ll see what I was implying.

[RJR_fan]

Some of the elements of the "water" I'm inviting you in to include:

• Christian education. The future belongs to those who are willing to invest in it.
• Christian education. The future belongs to those who do not render unto Caesar that which is God's -- their children.
• Reformed theology. On the Protestant side of the equation, the Calvinists have cornered the market on Christian world view thinking and writing. The pietists are still trying to use an intensified navel view substitute for a world view. An ounce of obedience is worth a pound of experience. Those who choose experience over obedience end up getting hornswoggled by various fake "revival" movements, like the Todd Bentley dog and poney show.
• Post-millennialism. The future belongs to those who are confident that, thanks to the power, presence, and prescience of God, they actually have a future to work for!

Millions of families are raising the next generation at home, in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. These children are learning to think more clearly, and live more holy, than their parents. God's hand of blessing is upon this movement, and the best is yet to come! (see my tagline)

[Jim W N]

The Christian education sounds good. The best is the home-schooling. Many have jumped into that water (that for no apparent reason you seem to continue assume others like myself are not part of).

I don't know about your Reformed theology or Post-millennialism.

Many are in this River of the Water of Life that flows from His throne. Not being part of your "group" doesn't exclude God's people around the world from being part of His plans and blessing in these last days. We need only to cleave to the Lord and "hold fast to the Word of His patience."

[Jim W N]

BTW, the First and Second Great Awakening were times of nation-wide repentance and revival, changing the course of our country. This was no flaky fly-by-night stuff.

If America is going to continue, a Third Great Awakening bringing solid, sound repentance from the Mercy Seat of God’s Throne will be needed. Otherwise, America likely will fall by the wayside and the world will go quickly. In that case, we’re preparing for His imminent coming which may happen as we, along with the Spirit, cry, "Come, Lord Jesus."

[Jim W N]

OK, you've been fairly evasive but I get it now. You're a Rushdoony guy, a "theonomist or reconstructionist". Gottcha.

Well, I see that as good and bad. Getting back to God’s Word is always a good thing. You guys bring up some important issues like restitution. Coming up with an authoritarian-type interpretation of God’s Word from one man or group – not so good. I wish you well.

(FYI, I’m a Christian Constitutional conservative and an economic libertarian that believes in very limited government. The need in this country is changed hearts by God’s spirit, not resurrecting Old Testament laws that the New Testament declares are decayed and ready to vanish (Heb 8:13).)

[Coleus]

At the end of the day, we’re either a Christian nation (not established by the state, but through free exercise of religion like America was until the 20th century), >>>

I couldn’t agree more

[SunkenCiv]

...court rulings allowing teachers to REQUIRE our children to bow down and pray to Allah "in demonstration."

Thanks Coleus.

[rmlew]

It is shocking that Hamilton could compose the following condemning the Ten Commandments while endorsing banners in front of a school that state, " "There is one God, Allah, and Mohammed is his prophet." This is her ruling, upheld by the Ninth Circuit:
It is a demand taht children convert to Islam