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As the Sun Awakens, NASA Keeps a Wary Eye on Space Weather...
NASA ^ | June 4th, 2010

Posted on 06/04/2010 7:19:18 PM PDT by TaraP

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To: SatinDoll
So now this ‘group’ warns us that the Sun is heating up. Bull shit!

The sun is not the sole determinate, human effects aside, on the earth's temperature. There are effects from the earth's orbit, the precession of the axes and some other orbital and axial tilt effects. We can both be entering a period of increased solar activity, and decreased overall temperature on the earth. Besides, activity and heat/light output are not necessarily the same anyway.

41 posted on 06/04/2010 8:39:00 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

I think we are all already dead.

LLS


42 posted on 06/04/2010 8:43:49 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: TaraP
This could easily damage our communications and GPS satellite systems.

Could keep our space shuttles busy repairing them if it turns nasty.

Oh, wait.....

43 posted on 06/04/2010 8:48:37 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Mamzelle

Well it is entering its next 5.5 (average) year up cycle but all indications are it is going to be much weaker than anything we’ve had for a long, long time.


44 posted on 06/04/2010 8:50:18 PM PDT by DB
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To: TaraP

Ra is pissed off.


45 posted on 06/04/2010 8:53:37 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: TaraP

Ra is pissed off.


46 posted on 06/04/2010 8:55:05 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: Mamzelle

There is a well known sunspot/solar activity cycle. Typically the period is about 11 years. We have been in the low of the cycle the last couple years so it was due to change. These cycles have been observed for hundreds of years.

Ask any ham radio operator if you are still skeptical.


47 posted on 06/04/2010 8:56:54 PM PDT by northman99
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To: jongaltsr

I tries to post a reply on this thread, so far it was not appeared. FR must having issues again.


48 posted on 06/04/2010 8:59:48 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: Mamzelle

Technically we’re at the very start of solar cycle 24, and it’s two years late already. Solar flux numbers — the measure of solar output — are still at extremely low levels; 72 as of right now. Anything above 100 is moderate and above 150 is high. At maximum, readings of 200 are not uncommon.

Cycles run approximately 11 years, but 23 and the trough between 23 and 24 have gone on for a lot longer than normal. There’s NO sign of any serious solar output and we’ve only experienced a small handful of noticeable solar disturbances in the last 2 years, none of which had the potential to do any damage whatsoever.

That said, big X-10 class flares, coronal mass ejections and the like can indeed cause major headaches and if they can find a way to forecast them accurately, great.

Now, however, solar forecasters only exist to make weather forecasters look accurate in comparison IMHO.


49 posted on 06/04/2010 9:03:54 PM PDT by NJRadioGuy (W2IRT. Which part of "shall not be infringed" confuses you?)
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To: Don Corleone

This is weird. You can WRITE TO, but not READ FROM FR.


50 posted on 06/04/2010 9:05:10 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: TaraP

Hm, this must be the ion storm that always plagued the ol’ Enterprise under Captain Kirk...

But seriously, I thought that we had entered a weak sunspot cycle? That would mean 28 years of cooler temps, not hotter!


51 posted on 06/04/2010 9:57:20 PM PDT by mrreaganaut (When can the Martian Republic declare independence from Earth?)
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To: Mamzelle
The late and weak start of the current sunspot cycle is what happened prior to the little ice age "The Maunder Minimum."

NASA lies.

52 posted on 06/04/2010 10:19:06 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: TaraP

bflr


53 posted on 06/04/2010 10:27:54 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: El Gato

“Besides, activity and heat/light output are not necessarily the same anyway.”

YES, I KNOW THAT!

I find the damned timing of this, the coincidence, when the Obama administration is going to start pushing hard the ‘Cap & Tax’ legislation, too convenient. I think it is being used as propaganda.


54 posted on 06/05/2010 2:22:52 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: yield 2 the right

” FR must having issues again.”

Double, triple posts.
It’s from solar activity!


55 posted on 06/05/2010 4:35:27 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: cpdiii
From a family and background of science...it is distressing to see what whores scientists have become in the last ten, fifteen years...just plain streetwalkers, almost as bad as the pedophile priests. Which among them can you trust anymore? The white coat was once sacred, now it's more like a garter belt and fishnet stockings.

Look at the charlatans surrounding Al Gore--flush with hundreds of millions of Google dollars, trying to ruin the standard of living for the US middle class.

56 posted on 06/05/2010 8:02:11 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Cameras, cameras--never forget to bring your cameras)
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To: Mamzelle
What evidence do they have that there’s going to be increased activity?

Well, because it goes in cycles and even after a long period with little or no sun spot activity, the activity increases. Now, after a long period with no sun spots, we see the occasional little one here or there. It's pretty good evidence that there will be increased activity. To argue the contrary, that lack of activity means there will never be such activity again, is ludicrous. Their statement that solar activity will increase is at the level of saying that winter follows fall and that spring will follow winter. Such a prediction is of the "DUH!" variety.
57 posted on 06/05/2010 8:11:17 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan
That is quite reasonable. The problem is, NOAA has been caught in the Climategate scandal. The media has tried to gloss over this, but I have been following the story very closely these past two or three years. Who shall I believe?

It is really time to clean house. Those climate "skeptics" who have held true against the mega-dollar energy interests (Soros, et al) need to step up and start naming names and following the money.

The politically-correct scientists are corrupt, and need to be thrown out and their butts sued. There is a mechanism in US law that allows a lawyer to go after any academic who has filed for federal grant under false pretenses. I'd say that would be all the phonies around Al Gore. The lawyer gets to keep a percentage of the take. I don't know why I'm not reading about them being filed en masse.

58 posted on 06/05/2010 8:22:24 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Cameras, cameras--never forget to bring your cameras)
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Catastrophism
 
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59 posted on 06/05/2010 1:54:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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