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Source: USC football gets 2-year ban
ESPN ^ | Jun 10, 2010 | ESPN

Posted on 06/10/2010 7:18:27 AM PDT by commish

The USC football program will receive a two-year postseason ban, a reduction in scholarships and a forfeiture of wins from at least the 2004 season when the NCAA releases its sanctions on Thursday, a source told ESPN's Shelley Smith.

The Los Angeles Times reported the NCAA sanctions include the loss of more than 20 scholarships.

ESPN The Magazine's Bruce Feldman confirmed the two-year postseason ban and a reduction in scholarships from a second USC source.

USC will respond Thursday to the NCAA's findings following its investigation into possible violations by the Trojans' football and men's basketball programs, a source told ESPN's Joe Schad.

(Excerpt) Read more at sports.espn.go.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chat; ncaa; probation; sports; usc; violation
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NCAA FINALLY slaps the USC program down. Guess we now know why Pete Carroll split for the NFL.

NO word on whether the forfieture of games in 2004 will also cause them to be stripped of their National Championship for that Season.

1 posted on 06/10/2010 7:18:28 AM PDT by commish
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To: commish

FIGHT OFF


2 posted on 06/10/2010 7:18:47 AM PDT by edcoil (Kingdoms have never survived. Don't let any new ones be formed.)
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To: commish

Not good for USC!

My UConn men’s basketball program has been having problems also.


3 posted on 06/10/2010 7:19:52 AM PDT by Biggirl (I Have A New Rainbow Bridge Baby, Negritia! =^..^=)
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To: commish

Lane Kiffin

ha ha


4 posted on 06/10/2010 7:20:41 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: commish

Ping this over to GOPUSA, he handles college football PINGS.


5 posted on 06/10/2010 7:20:43 AM PDT by Biggirl (I Have A New Rainbow Bridge Baby, Negritia! =^..^=)
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To: GOPUSA

Ping for the list.


6 posted on 06/10/2010 7:22:43 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: Biggirl
My UConn men’s basketball program has been having problems also.

Sorry to hear that. The Big East isn't the Big East without them as a full citizen.

7 posted on 06/10/2010 7:22:47 AM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: babble-on

Great move Lane!....


8 posted on 06/10/2010 7:23:22 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: commish

Wow. WOW. Big stuff there for the downtown campus. Major impact coming.......


9 posted on 06/10/2010 7:23:56 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: Glenn

Some information Glenn.

http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-men/hc-uconn-nochimson-20100609,0,138078.story


10 posted on 06/10/2010 7:24:15 AM PDT by Biggirl (I Have A New Rainbow Bridge Baby, Negritia! =^..^=)
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To: commish

“Guess we now know why Pete Carroll split for the NFL. “

It’s a shame that a coach can screw so many people and escape without paying a penalty. Everybody thought Pete Carroll was such a stand up guy. Yeah, about as stand up as Nick Saban.

This is a lesson to college administrators, police your sports programs, or you may find yourself in this situation.


11 posted on 06/10/2010 7:27:22 AM PDT by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: commish
Guess we now know why Pete Carroll split for the NFL.

I'd have to go back through months of FR posts to prove this, but this is exactly what I speculated a while back when the rumors of his departure from USC first surfaced.

12 posted on 06/10/2010 7:27:24 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: commish

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/nov/04/sports/sp-uscfyi4
“”As for Carroll, he said he was voting for Barack Obama.

“It’s time,” Carroll said. “I’m excited for it, for everybody. Most of all, I’m excited to be represented by him around the world.”””


13 posted on 06/10/2010 7:27:48 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: commish

Who would get the title instead?


14 posted on 06/10/2010 7:29:00 AM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: brownsfan

I think you’re being terribly naive if you think USC was “screwed” in any way by their former coach. I can almost guarantee you that in every NCAA case like this, the entire school administration — along with many of its alumni — is complicit in whatever wrongdoing brought on the sanctions.


15 posted on 06/10/2010 7:29:37 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: commish

Will someone explain “post season” ban to me?


16 posted on 06/10/2010 7:31:30 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (I'd rather drink Tea than Koolaid)
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To: commish

(Reggie) Bush’s fault.


17 posted on 06/10/2010 7:31:56 AM PDT by socal_parrot (I hate to say I told you so, but...)
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To: Alberta's Child
I think you’re being terribly naive if you think USC was “screwed” in any way by their former coach. I can almost guarantee you that in every NCAA case like this, the entire school administration — along with many of its alumni — is complicit in whatever wrongdoing brought on the sanctions.

Hey! I swear I didn't do anything.

18 posted on 06/10/2010 7:33:09 AM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: commish

Not good for college football. Big loss of TV revenue. Everybody is going to feel it in their pockets.


19 posted on 06/10/2010 7:33:25 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Alberta's Child

“I can almost guarantee you that in every NCAA case like this, the entire school administration — along with many of its alumni — is complicit in whatever wrongdoing brought on the sanctions.”

If that’s the case, then as usual, the kids are the only ones to be hurt. And not even the kids involved in the wrong doing, it’s the current crop that pays. Not every athelete gets the star treatment.


20 posted on 06/10/2010 7:33:54 AM PDT by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: commish

Lukewarm punishment IMHO.


21 posted on 06/10/2010 7:35:16 AM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: socal_parrot

LOL!!!


22 posted on 06/10/2010 7:35:25 AM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: commish

The ncaa investigated USC for almost 5 years, and all they got was ONE family of ONE athlete got illegal benefits, and that athlete may (it’s disputed) have gotten benefits, too. The benefits did not come from any booster, or anyone connected with the university. The only one who said the university knew, is a convicted perjurer, who fingered one assistant coach, who denies all this.

Oh yes, there was the football player who drove his girlfriend’s car, where the car was financed by her employer who is not an agent or a “booster”.

What a farce. USC’s real sin was winning.


23 posted on 06/10/2010 7:35:25 AM PDT by uscabjd
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To: Biggirl

What UConn did was arguably worse than USC’s violations.


24 posted on 06/10/2010 7:35:51 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

They can’t get invited to a bowl game for the duration of the sanctions.


25 posted on 06/10/2010 7:35:56 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: SeaHawkFan

was = is


26 posted on 06/10/2010 7:36:16 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: GOP Poet

LOL.


27 posted on 06/10/2010 7:36:24 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: jettester

Who would get the title instead?



Obama?


28 posted on 06/10/2010 7:36:35 AM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: Nachum

“Not good for college football. Big loss of TV revenue. Everybody is going to feel it in their pockets.”

Are you kidding? USC is a big time program, yes, but if they got the death penalty, college football wouldn’t even notice. When USC sucked before Carroll got there, sort of a self imposed probation, college football did just fine.

College football is bigger than any individual program.


29 posted on 06/10/2010 7:37:55 AM PDT by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

No bowl appearances anywhere....


30 posted on 06/10/2010 7:37:55 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: brownsfan
In situations like this, athletes in the current program are often given an exemption from the NCAA rule that requires anyone transferring to another NCAA program to sit out for one year.

If I remember correctly, this is exactly what happened when SMU was hit with some serious sanctions about 20+ years back.

31 posted on 06/10/2010 7:38:44 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: commish

Hired Kiffin just in time! Man, Tennessee is lucky Kiffin left and saved them from their biggest hiring mistake in decades!


32 posted on 06/10/2010 7:40:25 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: AngelesCrestHighway; Alberta's Child

Thanks you two....


33 posted on 06/10/2010 7:41:36 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (I'd rather drink Tea than Koolaid)
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To: Alberta's Child

SMU was paying their players. They got punished then kept on paying them. Gov. Clements said at the time “we have to honor our commitments to these players”.


34 posted on 06/10/2010 7:42:45 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: uscabjd
NCAA likes to have a trophy head on the wall every few years. It is very arbitrary and capricious in its enforcement.
35 posted on 06/10/2010 7:44:45 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Will someone explain “post season” ban to me?

It means that any game after the regular season is now off limits to the program.

And when you consider that the Rose Bowl, or any other BCS Bowl, are the main post season games in which USC appears, with a 17 million dollar payout, it can be a substantial shot to the school's budget.

Additionally, if the PAC-10 expands to 16 teams with a conference championship game, that would likely be an additional double digit millions they would be forbidden to take part in, even if they had the best conference record.

So a "post season ban" could wind up costing USC between 17-35 million bucks and severely hamper their recruiting activities since high school kids like to envision themselves sitting on the bench in their freshman year of college mouthing the words "Hi Mom" on national TV.

36 posted on 06/10/2010 7:45:08 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: commish
Just in time for their new coach....

hahahaha....

I hope Tennessee wins it all this year just to rub it in his face.

37 posted on 06/10/2010 7:45:20 AM PDT by Volunteer (Though I know that the hypnotized never lie, do ya? - The Who)
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To: uscabjd
I disagree. When a team has big time stars like Reggie Bush, they watch them. They know they will be approached and tempted. Knowing a player and his family circumstances is part of the job - I find it hard to believe someone on the team staff wouldn't have heard rumors that his parents were suddenly living in a 750K home.

But to be fair, I know this happens at many schools - part time jobs where no one is showing up - cars, perks...

38 posted on 06/10/2010 7:49:08 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (I'd rather drink Tea than Koolaid)
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To: uscabjd

I concur. I believe that the harsh penalty is to crush the west coast’s ascendancy in football and save the big east conference. East Coast bias anyone?


39 posted on 06/10/2010 7:49:41 AM PDT by CoastWatcher
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To: commish

Lane Kiffin had nothing to do with it, and yet no one deserves it more...


40 posted on 06/10/2010 7:52:08 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: CoastWatcher

Coach Bob Knight was asked about this today on ESPN Radio. He said, quote,

“If the current leadership of the NCAA were put in charge of planning the Normandy Invasion, our troops would have landed in Portugal”


41 posted on 06/10/2010 7:53:30 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Alberta's Child
"If I remember correctly, this is exactly what happened when SMU was hit with some serious sanctions about 20+ years back."

I remember when that happened. SMU was always a force in College football until that happenned. They always had a tailback who was so fast they looked like their feet never touched the ground.

Reduced (or none, I can't recall) scholarships, no post season play, and I think no national TV spots, just killed that program.

42 posted on 06/10/2010 7:53:58 AM PDT by libs_kma (DEMOCRATS, HOT TAR AND FEATHERS. SOME ASSEMBLY REQUIRED.)
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To: N. Theknow

Of course “post season” makes perfect sense now - lol - I was wondering if they got any TV sanctions?


43 posted on 06/10/2010 7:55:07 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (I'd rather drink Tea than Koolaid)
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To: commish

Hey, Lane. You can go ahead and feel free to make those Christmas and New Year’s plans. Won’t be anything getting in the way.


44 posted on 06/10/2010 7:58:26 AM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: commish

Cool, I loathe USC


45 posted on 06/10/2010 8:02:57 AM PDT by Sto Zvirat
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Lane Kiffin had nothing to do with it, and yet no one deserves it more...”

Kiffin was an assistant at USC at the time.


46 posted on 06/10/2010 8:07:00 AM PDT by Amntn
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To: GOP Poet

Same goes for me. I’m clean.


47 posted on 06/10/2010 8:09:40 AM PDT by RGF
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To: commish

Hey, now at least Charlies Weiss can add a win against USC to his sterling resume!


48 posted on 06/10/2010 8:10:50 AM PDT by PackerBronco
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To: Nachum

Are you kidding me? SEC is where it’s at!!

BTW, the Dawgs ranked #2 in academics just behind Vandy! How ‘bout that!


49 posted on 06/10/2010 8:11:11 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: commish
This is nothing more than God's justice for the Bush Push:

No wonder Carroll left the University of Spoiled Children. :)


50 posted on 06/10/2010 8:14:15 AM PDT by TonyInOhio ( Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils.)
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