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Source: USC football gets 2-year ban
ESPN ^ | Jun 10, 2010 | ESPN

Posted on 06/10/2010 7:18:27 AM PDT by commish

The USC football program will receive a two-year postseason ban, a reduction in scholarships and a forfeiture of wins from at least the 2004 season when the NCAA releases its sanctions on Thursday, a source told ESPN's Shelley Smith.

The Los Angeles Times reported the NCAA sanctions include the loss of more than 20 scholarships.

ESPN The Magazine's Bruce Feldman confirmed the two-year postseason ban and a reduction in scholarships from a second USC source.

USC will respond Thursday to the NCAA's findings following its investigation into possible violations by the Trojans' football and men's basketball programs, a source told ESPN's Joe Schad.

(Excerpt) Read more at sports.espn.go.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chat; ncaa; probation; sports; usc; violation
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To: CoastWatcher

Coach Bob Knight was asked about this today on ESPN Radio. He said, quote,

“If the current leadership of the NCAA were put in charge of planning the Normandy Invasion, our troops would have landed in Portugal”


41 posted on 06/10/2010 7:53:30 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Alberta's Child
"If I remember correctly, this is exactly what happened when SMU was hit with some serious sanctions about 20+ years back."

I remember when that happened. SMU was always a force in College football until that happenned. They always had a tailback who was so fast they looked like their feet never touched the ground.

Reduced (or none, I can't recall) scholarships, no post season play, and I think no national TV spots, just killed that program.

42 posted on 06/10/2010 7:53:58 AM PDT by libs_kma (DEMOCRATS, HOT TAR AND FEATHERS. SOME ASSEMBLY REQUIRED.)
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To: N. Theknow

Of course “post season” makes perfect sense now - lol - I was wondering if they got any TV sanctions?


43 posted on 06/10/2010 7:55:07 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (I'd rather drink Tea than Koolaid)
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To: commish

Hey, Lane. You can go ahead and feel free to make those Christmas and New Year’s plans. Won’t be anything getting in the way.


44 posted on 06/10/2010 7:58:26 AM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: commish

Cool, I loathe USC


45 posted on 06/10/2010 8:02:57 AM PDT by Sto Zvirat
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Lane Kiffin had nothing to do with it, and yet no one deserves it more...”

Kiffin was an assistant at USC at the time.


46 posted on 06/10/2010 8:07:00 AM PDT by Amntn
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To: GOP Poet

Same goes for me. I’m clean.


47 posted on 06/10/2010 8:09:40 AM PDT by RGF
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To: commish

Hey, now at least Charlies Weiss can add a win against USC to his sterling resume!


48 posted on 06/10/2010 8:10:50 AM PDT by PackerBronco
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To: Nachum

Are you kidding me? SEC is where it’s at!!

BTW, the Dawgs ranked #2 in academics just behind Vandy! How ‘bout that!


49 posted on 06/10/2010 8:11:11 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: commish
This is nothing more than God's justice for the Bush Push:

No wonder Carroll left the University of Spoiled Children. :)


50 posted on 06/10/2010 8:14:15 AM PDT by TonyInOhio ( Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils.)
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To: commish

USC has always had the best team money could buy, even in the early 50s when I was in school.


51 posted on 06/10/2010 8:14:43 AM PDT by dalereed (in)
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To: brownsfan
I don't think Pete or the team had anything to do with the crazy deal regarding a homeowner giving or renting a nice home to the Bush family.
Expecting a school to be responsible for all in life surrounding the players or their parents when they had nothing to do with it is crazy.
The guy who sued the Bush family and who made the stink about the house had nothing to do with the school or team or some alumni would have paid them off long before a suit was file IMO.

It's kind of like the apartment owner of a 30 unit building being found responsible for the parents of one of their tenants who may have broke a law though the apartment owner never had anything to do with it.

I would take this to the real court if I were USC.
I think a LOT of this is political.

52 posted on 06/10/2010 8:16:55 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: uscabjd

You’re such a homer.

OJ Mayo (basketball) and Reggie Bush (football) are the only ones that are known about.


53 posted on 06/10/2010 8:17:14 AM PDT by mattdono (A REAL soldier of the People encourages men to be self-reliant & independent, not rely on government)
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To: PackerBronco

What does Weis have to do with USC’s troubles?


54 posted on 06/10/2010 8:18:44 AM PDT by irish guard
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To: commish

Well, it looks like the “PAC 16” is getting off to a “great” start!


55 posted on 06/10/2010 8:19:05 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: commish

NCAA Not Constant About Anything!


56 posted on 06/10/2010 8:41:08 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: libs_kma
"If I remember correctly, this is exactly what happened when SMU was hit with some serious sanctions about 20+ years back."

I remember when that happened. SMU was always a force in College football until that happenned. They always had a tailback who was so fast they looked like their feet never touched the ground.

Reduced (or none, I can't recall) scholarships, no post season play, and I think no national TV spots, just killed that program.

I was at SMU in 1987 and worked as a student tutor in the athletic department. SMU was paying players and was already on probation. The administration made the decision to continue payments even after NCAA infractions came down. The NCAA created the Death Penalty for these situations as punishment for repeat offenders.

The penalty included NO football games for one year and only away games the next year. SMU opted not to play in 1988 after not playing in 1987. There were other restrictions and a few alumni were banned from participating. It was devastating at the time and the NCAA has shown a reluctance to use it even in circumstances that obviously warranted its use.

The reality is that it was the price of big time football back then. Money, cars and jobs were flying around Texas like candy. And it wasn't just down south. I had several players confide that there was a bidding war for their services and SMUs deep pockets and success won more times than not. SMU paid the ultimate price for many teams sins.

It is naive to think that money, jobs, cars, houses don't still get distributed, especially at the more successful programs - there is just far too much money at stake. But now the payroll and distribution methods are far more creative. I'm not suggesting anything in the USC case, I have no direct knowledge of that particular situation. But down here in Texas, there is way too much smoke around some of the higher profile athletes.

BTW - the death penalty in of itself was harsh, but not the primary reason for SMUs long march back to relevance. The breakup of the SWC and subsequent conference carousel was a millstone. But the biggest hurdle we had to overcome was ourselves. The adminstration put in place draconian rules that prevented coaches from recruiting anyone until they were fully qualified. SMUs standards were well above any other school in Texas. In the last couple of years those and other ridiculous restrictions have been removed and we are on a level playing field with our peers. The results under June Jones speak for themselves - a winning season and 45-10 Aloha Bowl win over Nevada in his second year.

57 posted on 06/10/2010 8:43:07 AM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: A CA Guy

FWIW, universities spend a lot of time with players telling them what they can and cannot do. The players understand fully what the rules are and once a university learns of an impropriety, they are required to report it. What is hinted at in this penalty, and most negotiations include some confidentiality, is that USC knew of Bush’s acceptance of money and a place for his family to live, all in exchange for him agreeing to all this guy to be his agent. These schools know exactly what’s going on with these players.


58 posted on 06/10/2010 8:51:41 AM PDT by irish guard
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To: commish

Lane Kinfin gone interviewing once again.


59 posted on 06/10/2010 8:55:03 AM PDT by STD (Oil-Bambi's Revenge and econ 101 by the Father of Facist capitalism)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

No bowl games.

Means they also do not get to split the fees and money from these games which are are about 50 million to the school.


60 posted on 06/10/2010 8:55:48 AM PDT by edcoil (Kingdoms have never survived. Don't let any new ones be formed.)
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