Posted on 06/14/2010 9:50:22 AM PDT by Ron C.
Here's a dose of reality.
The father of teen sailor Abby Sunderland told The NY Post that he's broke and had signed a contract to do a reality show, "Adventures in Sunderland," about his family of daredevil kids weeks after she set off on her doomed and dangerous solo sail around the globe.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
I would, it would be awesome. Plus it’s a heckuva challenge.
That would explain your relatively high level of intelligence and debating skills.
You think reality shows are a good thing?
Nope. Don't watch them. Don't watch TV either. Haven't for years, except to watch a selected movie with my son. However, I hear that other people do, enough to pay the people on them pretty darn good.
Then why would you say "So why shouldn’t her parents partake in the same venue to attempt to financially provide for themselves?"
Because it's their business, not mine. I don't have to participate , but I think they have the freedom to do so.
We can judge others actions.
You were judging their motives, which you only marginally know anything about. We probably have about the same 'info' on this digested. Neither of us was there, so we only have what we read to depend on. You know how that goes.
Maybe. I doubt it though. There is plenty of value , at least to Abby and her family, if not the designer. Someone will make the effort soon to recover it, IMHO.
Could be both.
Just separating the wheat from the chaff.
Only if you believe that 'conservative' means that people should be allowed to make decisions for themselves and their children in pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness, instead of a nanny state telling them NO.
On the other hand, their actions ended up causing expense to others, which is something I believe conservatives avoid.
So, I guess you have to decide for yourself.
You wouldn't. I wouldn't. I don't think anyone else here would.
However, our society 'accepts' the marketing of children rather easily.
Just ask Michael Jackson's parents.
Or the parents who put their children on STAR SEARCH (I know, it kinda dates me. I would have used the latest kid star show if I had any clue what they are now called).
And yet, many, many years later, we still don't know for sure what even happened.
But everyone KNOWS exactly what went on with ABBY and her family.
I sincerely appreciate your comments and the back and forth on this situation. I learned some new things about Abby’s trip during the thread.
To me, that is WINNING. I hope you WON too.
At least not without a gun.
The WSSRC now longer records oldest and youngest records. You can read about it in a little more detail here:
http://www.sail-world.com/CruisingAus/Jessica-Watson:—Keeping-the-Record-Straight/69108
It also explains why Jessica Watson did not do a “Round the World”. She missed a key point in her travels.
Further, this article:
http://www.sailangle.com/news/details/id/3312
States that WSSRC now longer allows less than 18 y/o participants in recordholding.
lol
She didn't sail around the world, she almost died. That looked like a small boat to me. I know people who do sail around the world and it takes at least 2 strong and knowledgeable people to do it in a much larger craft.
I don’t think any but if nothing else, maybe people who participate in risky adventures should be required to carry rescue-insurance.
I enjoyed the conversation. It was a good one.
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LIST OF SOLO CIRCUMNAVIGATORS
Dates Name Nationality/
Flag Vessel Direction/
Cape/Canals Record Remarks
Depart Complete Name Material/Size Rig
4/24/1895 6/27/1898 Joshua Slocum U.S./U.S. Spray Wood
36’9”X14’2” Sloop Westward First American to sail around the world alone Via Strait of Magellan
1921 1925 Harry Pidgeon U.S./U.S. Islander Wood
34’X10’9” Yawl Westward
/Panama First around via Panama Canal
1923 1929 Alain Gerbault French
/France Firecrest Wood
39’X8’6” Cutter Westward
/Panama First Frenchman to sail around the world alone
1928 1932 Edward Miles U.S./U.S. Sturdy/
Sturdy II Wood
37’X10’/
36’9”X10’1” Schooners Eastward
/Panama, Suez First man to sail Eastward via both canals
1932 1937 Harry Pidgeon U.S./U.S. Islander Wood
34’X10’9” Yawl Westward
/Panama First man to sail around the world single-handed twice
1936 1938 Louis Bernicot French
/France Anahita Wood
41’X11’9” Cutter Westward First to follow Slocum’s track Via the Strait of Megellan
1942 1943 Vito Dumas Argentina
/Argentina Lehg II Wood
33’X11’ Ketch Eastward Horn First to circumnavigate via the Horn
1948 1952 Al Peterson U.S./U.S. Stronoway Wood
33’X11’ Cutter Westward
/Panama, Suez First Eastward via both canals
1950 1958 Marcel Bardiaux French
/France Les Quatre Vents Wood
30’8”X8’10” Sloop Westward horn First Westward via The Horn
1950 1956 Adrian Hayter New Zealand
/U.K. Sheila II Wood
32’X8’6” Yawl Eastward
/Suez (See second circumnavigation)
1953 1957 Jean Gau French
/U.S. Atom Wood
30’X9’10” Ketch Westward
/Panama
1955 1959 John Guzzwell B.C Canada
/B.C Canada Trekka Wood
20’6”X6’6” Yawl Westward
/Panama First British Circumnavigator
1956 1961 Joseph Havkins Israel
/Israel Lammerhak II Wood
23’X7’ Yawl Westward First Israeli. First without using canals Crossed Israel and Mexico by land
1957 1973 Edward Allcard U.K./U.K. Sea Wanderer Wood 26’X11’ Ketch Westward Horn
1962 1963 Adrian Hayter New Zealand
/U.K. Valkyr Wood
25’X7’2” Sloop Westward
/Panama First to sail around the world both ways
1962 1968 Jean Gau French
/U.S. Atom Wood
30’X9’10” Ketch Westward
/Panama
1964 1966 Pierre Auboiroux French
/France Neo-Vent Wood
27’X7’6” Sloop Westward
/Suez, Panama
1965 1970 Robin Lee Graham U.S./U.S. Dove/Return of Dove Fiberglass
24’X7’6”/33’X9’ Sloop Westward
/ Panama Youngest Circumnavigator First fiberglass boat
1965 1968 Rusty Weeb U.K./U.K. Flyd Wood
29’3”X9’6” Sloop Westward
/ Panama
1965 1969 Alfred Kallies German
/Germany Pru Wood
27’X7’11” Sloop Westward
/ Panama
1966 1968 Wilfried Erdman German
/Germany Kathena Wood
25’X7’7” Sloop Westward
/ Panama First German Circumnavigator
1966 1970 John Sowden U.S./U.S. Tarmin Wood
24’7X7’8” Sloop Westward
/ Panama
1966 1967 Francis Chichester U.K./U.K. Gypsy Moth IV Wood
53’1”X10’6” Yawl Eastward Horn First to make only one stop
1966 1973 Wolf Hausner Austrian
/Australia Taboo Plywood
32’X15’ Sloop-
catamaran Westward
/ Panama
1967 1969 Leonid Teliga Polish
/Poland Opty Wood
32’4”X9’4” Yawl Westward
/ Panama First Polish circumnavigator
1967 1969 Roger Plisson French
/France Francois Virginie Wood 24’X7’ Sloop Westward
/ Panama
1967 1968 Alec Rose U.K./U.K. Lively Lady Wood
36’X9’3” Yawl Eastward Horn
1968 1969 Robin Knox- Johnston U.K./U.K. Suhali Wood
32’5”X11’1” Ketch Eastward Horn First non-stop circumnavigation
1966 1969 Bernard Moitessier French
/France Joshua Steel
39’6”X12’ Ketch Eastward Horn First non-stop circumnavigation
1968 1969 Nigel Tetley U.K./U.K. Victress Plywood
40’X22’ Ketch-
trimaran Eastward Horn First multi-hull solo circumnavigation
1968 1971 Tom Blackwell U.K./U.K. Islander Wood
58’6”X12’8” Ketch Westward
/ Panama Largest yacht to circumnavigate via Panama singlehanded
1970 1971 Chay Blythe U.K./U.K. British Steel Steel
56’X12’10” Ketch Westward Horn First Westward Circumnavigation
1970 1973 Bill King Irish/U.K. Galway Blazer II Plywood
42’X10’5” Schooner Westward
/ Panama First Irishman to sail alone around the world
1971 1972 Jorgen Meyer German
/Germany Paloma Fiberglass
34’X10’’ Sloop Westward
/ Panama First around in less than a year (347 days)
1971 1973 Goran Cederstrom Swedish
/Sweden Tua Tua Fiberglass
27’4”X8’3” Sloop Westward
/ Panama First Swedish circumnavigator
1971 1974 Hiroshi Aoki Japanese
/Japan Ahodori II Plywood
20’9”X6’8” Yawl Eastward Horn Smallest yacht
1972 1973 Kris Baranowski Polish
/Poland Polonez Wood
45’3”X12’5” Ketch Eastward Horn Hobart to Horn in 45 days
1973 1974 Alain Colas French
/France Manureva Aluminum
70’X35’ Ketch-
trimaran Eastward Horn Fastest single handed multi-hull circumnavigation
1973 1974 Ambrogio Fogar Italin
/Italy Surprise Wood
38’8”X9’3” Sloop Westward Horn
1973 1974 Kenichi Horie Japanese
/Japan Mermaid III Wood
28’10”X9’3” Sloop Westward Horn
1973 1974 Ryusuke Ushijima Japanese
/Japan Gingitsune Wood 31’X9’10” Ketch Eastward Horn
Nov 1962 Dec 1976 Edward Boden U.S./U.S. KITTIWAKE Wood
25.4’X7.25’ Sloop Westward
/Panama/S.Africa Click for Details
1963 1968 Alan Eddy U.S./U.S. Apogee Length: 24’ Allied Seawind Ketch West to East Panama Canal / Cape Horn / Cape of Good Hope 1st GRP Boat to circumnavigate
2/28/ 1976 3/20/1978 Krystyna Chojnowska-Liskiewicz Polish Mazurek Length: 31’ Beam: 8.86’ Sloop West to East Click for Details
1977 1978 Naomi James New Zealand
/U.K. Express Crusader Fiberglass
53’X13’ Sloop Eastward Horn
1977 June 6, 1980 Dean Vincent
E-mail U.S./U.S. EOS Length: 39’
Beam: 12’
Displacement: 28,000 lb
Draft: 5’5”
Rigging: Ketch Ferro Cement West to East
Major Path of Voyage: San Diego, Mexico, south Pacific, Australia, South Africa, Granda, Panama, San Diego Dean built EOS from scratch and is as proud of this accomplishment as from his circumnavigation. He says the ferro cement finish looked like fiberglass not the sidewalk! His circumnavigation took almost 3 years. After returning to San Diego he sold EOS then built a 49’ cutter named EOS II. Sailed her from San Diego west through the Pacific and ended up in the Phillipines after sailing around Asia. He now builds 50’ - 60’ CATS.
July 1978 May 9, 1983 Yves Gelinas
Canada/Quebec Jean-du-Sud Fibreglass
Length: 30’
Beam: 8’9”
Displacement: 9000lbs Sloop West to East Major Path of Voyage : Southern Ocean/all the capes
11/4/1980 6/24/1986 Alan Butler Canadian/Canada Amon-Re 26’2” Catamaran East to West / Cape Horn /Panama Canal Left from Victoria, BC
1985 1986 Dodge D. Morgan U.S./U.S. American Promise Fiberglass
60’X16’5”X9’5” Sloop
Cutter Bermuda to Bermuda, eastabout via the five southernmost capes First American to sail non-stop, setting 13 records Click for Details
5/2/1984 5/26/1986 James Baldwin
E-mail U.S./U.S. Atom Fiberglass
LOA 28’
8’ beam
4.5’ draft
8,000lbs disp Pearson Triton
Bulit 1960 East to West Click for Details
2/24/1986 6/19/1987 Teddy Seymour USA Love Song Fiberglass
35’ Ericson West to East 1st black (African-American) man to sail around the world solo. Click for Details
1989 1997 Pat Henry U.S./U.S. Southren Cross 31’ Sloop
Cutter East-West Click for Details
8/5/1990 6/9/1992 William Pinkney U.S./U.S. The Committment 47’ Cutter East-West
All 5 Capes 4th of 5 Americans to round 5 capes
8/4/1996 8/18/1999 Karen Thorndike U.S./U.S. Amelia 31’ Sloop East-West
All 5 Capes First Americam woman to sail solo around the world Click to visit her Web Site
4/13/1998 12/29/2001 Robert E. Case U.S./U.S. 37’ 1979 Endurance pilothouse ketch Sailed from SanDiego, CA west to east. Returned to San Diego via the Panama Canal Disabled Sailor - amputee - lost lower left leg while serving with the Marine Corp.
4/9/1999 9/23/2000 Kris Baranowski Polish
/Poland Polonez Wood 45’3”X12’5” Ketch Westward His second trip Click for Details
Aug 1999 Nov 2002 Ron Llewellyn
E-Mail Australian
/Australia SULA Robert’s 36 Cutter Cutter Westward Click for Details
1/21/1999 6/23/2002 Patrick Kaines U.S./U.S. Eagle Dancer LOA 31’
Beam 1,4m
Hull 230kg
Keel 120kg
Built 1999, in GRP Sloop East to West
5/17/1999 7/9/2003 Evgeny Gvozdev Russia/Russia Said Fiberglass
LOA 3,6m
Beam 10’4”
Draft 5’8” East to West Click for Details
12/5/1999 12/7/2001 David B. Clark U.S./U.S. Mollie Milar Metal
LOA 44’ Sloop East to West Oldest Single handed Circumnavigator Click for Details
Mickey Fiberglass
LOA 34’ Sloop
04/2000 05/2004 Kenneth Hellewell
E-Mail U.S./U.S. Topaz 1975 FRP
LOA 37.5’
Beam 12.3’
Disp 14,000lbs C&C 38 East to West
Cape of Good Hope-
Panama Canal Published cruising guide of Tonga
www.cruisetonga.com
or visit www.cevennesproductions.com Thank you,
9/30/2001 9/1/2002 Edwin Arnold
E-mail U.S./U.S. Nomad length 35.5 ft.
Beam 11.5 ft.
Disp. 20,000 lbs
Age 13 yrs.
Aluminum Custom, Ted Brewer Design West to East
Major Path of Voyage: Sitka AK, Cape Horn, Cape Town, Adelaide, Aus. Sitka
Royal Cape YC 11 Feb - 5 Mar 2002 The intended non-stop circumnavigation was interrupted after I collided with an iceberg on 9 Jan 2002 at 50 deg. 36 min S x 40 deg 46 min W. Damage to the roller furling and pulpit was repaired in Cape Town. There was no hull damage. I stopped at Adelaide to replace a faulty radar. Presently lives in Eagle, CO where he and his wife Mary have mountains rather than the ocean for their views.
11/7/2003 3/8/2004 Jean Luc Van Den Heede France/France Adrien Aluminium
LOA 25.7m
Beam 5.4m Monohull East to West Click for Details
6/16/2001 8/8/2004 Uwe Rottgering
E-Mail German FANFAN! Aluminium
12.18m
Beam 3.45m
Disp 8,500KG One off Sloop West to East Click for Details
April 2001 June 2005 Fredric D. Roe
E-Mail U.S./U.S. Oceana Steel
44ft
Beam 10.5ft
Disp 15 ton
70 yrs old Ketch Westward Honolulu, Phuket, Durban, Panama, Honolulu
11/11/2005 5/16/2007 Donna Lange U.S./U.S. Inspired Insanity 28’ Southern Cross Fiber Glass Sloop West to East / Cape Horn / Cape of Good Hope Only 3 stops
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