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Countries paying teen's rescue cost defend sea law
Associated Press ^ | Jun 17, 2010 6:40 AM | TANALEE SMITH

Posted on 06/17/2010 5:27:33 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW

The International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea was first adopted in 1914 in response to the Titanic disaster. Along with mandating the number of lifeboats and the notification of a ship's routes, it also dictates that any ship in the area of a distress call will divert to assist that ship.

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To: Travis McGee

>> Why don’t you read all of my replies on the matter, instead of asking me to restate?

I was expecting a single word response.


121 posted on 06/17/2010 11:05:41 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
From what sailors on FR are saying and what I’ve read on a sailing forum, the kid never had a chance.

She never did, from Capetown on she was doomed.

I'm on a shaky hookup away from home, or I'd do it, but you can look up the wind charts for all of the oceans. They are for each ocean, and each month of the year, and show the direction and strength of the wind, based on % of days of various wind strengths. Each couple of degrees of lat and lon has a "wind rose" icon, with little arrows extending out in all directions. Longer/more arrows indicate wind direction and greater strength. The Southern Ocean in winter is just the NIGHTMARE of the PLANET. The winds below the Great Capes just keep on going, unimpeded by land, circling Antarctica. It's much worse than the North Pacific/Bering Sea (think of those "Most Dangerous Catch" TV shows) or the North Atlantic (think "Perfect Storm.) They are CALM compared to the Southern Ocean in winter! Even in the summer "sailing season" only the top pros try the Southern Ocean, because horrendous gales sweep through one after another. In summer! In winter, it's just OFF THE CHARTS, a "no-go zone" for sailing, PERIOD. Her father should be keelhauled for sending her out of Captetown in the southern winter. She had NO chance of making Australia. NONE.

122 posted on 06/17/2010 11:11:55 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Gene Eric

Nope.


123 posted on 06/17/2010 11:12:36 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Countries paying teen's rescue cost defend sea law

As well they should. This time it was Sunderland who needed rescue but every ship who responded knows that next time it could be them.

You can be the best sailor in the world, with the best boat, the best crew but the sea never rests in it's quest to kill you.

Call it paying it forward. Call it harvest law. It is what should be.

124 posted on 06/17/2010 11:14:58 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (there are huge chunks of time...at night...where I'm just asleep...for hours...it's ridiculous....)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks. That was much more info than I had seen before.


125 posted on 06/17/2010 11:17:07 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Um. You say there’s “nothing emotional about it”? He called her parents “Balloon Boy media-whore fame-grubbers” — without having all the information about their motives. He is extremely emotional about this issue.


126 posted on 06/17/2010 11:29:42 AM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I’m defending the family, because we don’t have all the information about them.

Travis McGee is attacking them — calling them “Balloon Boy media-whore fame-grubbers” — without having all the information.

He is quick to damn, quick to judge, and I’m urging level-headedness. Disagree with her trip, but don’t damn her parents.


127 posted on 06/17/2010 11:30:51 AM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: DuncanWaring

I did not realize he was part of her crew. My bad.


128 posted on 06/17/2010 11:31:26 AM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Travis McGee

You are pompous. Your experience sailing makes you think you know the MOTIVES of her family. You don’t. You know about masts and rudders; you do not know this family.

It’s fine to question this girl’s route during winter. But to damn her family, by calling her parents “Balloon Boy media-whore fame-grubbers,” is over the top.


129 posted on 06/17/2010 11:33:32 AM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Travis McGee

You look happy in that picture. That’s good.


130 posted on 06/17/2010 11:34:04 AM PDT by bvw
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To: GatorGirl

Travis called the parents “Balloon Boy media-whore fame-grubbers,” based on his experience on a sailboat and a few news reports from people with low expectations for young adults, from people who hate homeschooling Christians, from people who’d prefer young adults play video games than travel the world.

The girl and her parents may have been motivated to break the record, but that does not mean her parents are “Balloon Boy media-whore fame-grubbers.”


131 posted on 06/17/2010 11:35:54 AM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Theo; Travis McGee
I’m defending the family, because we don’t have all the information about them.

Try reading sailing forums. This family is not unknown.

Travis McGee is attacking them — calling them “Balloon Boy media-whore fame-grubbers” — without having all the information.

He's a sailor that built his own boat. He KNOWS how risky this was. He is judging actions based on facts. Do you sail?

He is quick to damn, quick to judge,

And yet you conveniently ignore your own emotional personal attack.

132 posted on 06/17/2010 11:36:12 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Theo; Travis McGee
Sorry, but the word of someone who's been there, done that and uses common sense carries a lot of weight around here. While I admire 'spunk/grit/cajones and all that, common sense has to prevail.

More so, stupid stunts like this; open the door to more .gov regulation, like 'permits', 'licenses' etc.

133 posted on 06/17/2010 11:40:54 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating Heart)
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To: Theo; Travis McGee
You call him names then condemn him for the same. What about being hypocritical don't you understand?

The WEATHER they sent this kid out in speaks to motive. She was scheduled to leave this year. To beat Watson, they hurried the kids trip and took risks that were unnecessary. THAT speaks to what kind of person someone is. Actions show who a person is, not their words.

134 posted on 06/17/2010 11:41:01 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Theo

He wasn’t part of her crew.

My original comment stands.


135 posted on 06/17/2010 11:41:26 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Why do I even bother talking with you? You just refuse to understand what point I’m making.

I point out that Travis is going over the top when he damns the character of this young woman’s parents, and then you counter by talking about the sailboat itself. It’s fine to discuss the facts about the route and such, but he doesn’t know their MOTIVES.


136 posted on 06/17/2010 11:41:27 AM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I called him “pompous” because he thinks he understands this family’s MOTIVES; he’s a sailing expert, NOT an expert on this family’s MOTIVES. What part of the English language do you not understand?

Do you think this girl was mindless, simply controlled by her parents’ whims? Or do you think she had a say in when she would sail and which route she would take?

If you’re all in favor of damning her parents, you should damn her as well. Be consistent.


137 posted on 06/17/2010 11:44:02 AM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Travis McGee

Ex Navy. All ships are required to respond to distress calls and not expect repayment. Otherwise you get ships not responding to distress unless you have your Visa card handy. The issue of whether her parents are idiots/derilict for allowing this trip is a separate issue.


138 posted on 06/17/2010 11:44:19 AM PDT by kgrif_Salinas
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To: Theo
he damns the character of this young woman’s parents

Your Post 33 to me.

Are you jealous that she’s accomplished more in 16 years than you have in your entire life? Do you feel like a loser compared to her, and your final solution is to destroy her?

We see who her parents are by their actions. You know absolutely nothing about me. Yet you condemn someone else's opinion that is based on facts and ignore your behavior that was based on disagreement of an opinion.

139 posted on 06/17/2010 11:47:06 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Theo
he’s a sailing expert,

That's right. And has judged the parents by their ACTIONS. Something posters do on FR everyday when discussing politicians.

Don't listen to what they say,
Watch what they do.

And that is what the sailing community has done. And some of them know the Sunderlands. These people have not lived in a vacuum.

140 posted on 06/17/2010 11:49:44 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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