Skip to comments.Sholom Mordechai Rubashkin has been sentenced to 27 years in prison.
Posted on 06/21/2010 3:32:48 PM PDT by papabrody
BREAKING NEWS, 11:50 A.M. est: Matzav.com has learned that Sholom Mordechai Rubashkin ahs been sentenced to 27 years in prison. Sholom Mordechai will also been ordered to pay nearly $31 million restitution when hes sentenced tomorrow in U.S. District Court.
Chief U.S. District Court Judge Linda Reade issued the sentencing memorandum today, outlining the sentence she will impose at tomorrows hearing in Cedar Rapids. Reade indicated in the document she would not impose a fine.
Sholom Mordechais attorney Guy Cook says the sentence is unfair and excessive and that the conviction and sentencing will be appealed.
Family, friends and supporters of Sholom Mordechai expressed outrage today. The sentence is greater than the amended recommendation from prosecutors, and is inconsistent with calls from throughout the legal community for Rubashkin to be sentenced in a manner similar to other men and women convicted of white-collar crimes. For rest of the article follow link:
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may have been the major factor, and if that means antisemitism at the forfront, then that's what it is.
I suspect you'll see a successful appeal, then it all starts over again.
Looks like they are making a spectacle of him. This is ridiculous.
well, don’t break the law and you won’t have some hard ass judge throw the book at ya.
I think PETA, although I recall this was a prosecutor that decided all Jewish people should be denied bail, since we can flee to Israel.
If youd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
$31 million bank fraud, 27 years. Lots of money, lots of years.
$35 million bank fraud, 63 to 78 months.
Rubashkins lawyers were negligent in not recomenting
And the kipa has to go.
Read the article and many of the comments and I still have no idea what this guy did.
And what does PETA have to do with it?
The problem I have with this case is, what did Rubashkin actually do that was criminal? We are in the state of affairs Ayn Rand predicted, where there are so many laws that even honest citizens can't help but break some if they conduct extensive business. (I am NOT a big fan of Ayn Rand!)
Whatever his crime, 27 years, on top of full restitution, is the kind of sentence I'd like to see handed down to rapists, kidnappers and aggravated assualts. There would have to be ruined lives in the wake of Mr. Rubashkin's crimes to justify 27 years. That's about 1/3 of a lifetime!
From the article, I cannot figure out what he was convicted of.
He ran a meat-packing plant full of illegal immigrant workers (many of them children). He was convicted of mail fraud and money laundering for defrauding the plant’s banks and other creditors.
Bank/wire fraud. Without going into details, he lied on various financial statements and representations to his bank in order to obtain financing after the company was in financial trouble. He deserves prision time, but sentences should be proportional to the crime, and other violators.
What is the reasoning given for such a length of time in prison? It doesn’t seem appropriate when viewed against other similar cases.
bad journalism- i come across it frequently when reading items of interest in the frum community and this publication is no exception-it’s ASSUMED YOU KNOW
Ah. Well... exploiting children for labor is a BIG no-no as far as I am concerned. Just because he is Jewish doesn't mean he should be exempt from the law.
Although, one should take notice that some of the Islamic terrorists served less time in Gitmo than he will serve.
If his name was Mohammed al Zahir, Obama’s Justice Department would be demanding his release...
He claims to have been unaware of that. I don't believe him, but others were convicted for those crimes, he wasn't even charges, so the sentence cannot be based on that. It's my understanding that testimony along those lines was allowed during the trial, which I suspect may earn the taxpayers the bill for a new trial. But in any case, employment of illegals was irrelevant.
As I noted in 17, I'd be happy to throw employers in jail for employing illegals, perhaps not for 27 years. But to do that you have to be willing to charge and convict them. Which despite extensive investigation, didn't happen here.
Not at all... you're REALLY jumping to conclusions.
I live not far from there.
His company, over the years, has violated just about every health law known to science and each time they just got a slap on the wrist.
He had illegal Mexicans working there and even violated child labor laws.
Locals thought he would get by with this stuff and are elated that he will finally have to pay the price.
He lied to the bank. This looks like a crime that would warrant 5 years. 27 years is insane. This is federal court, meaning that 27 years really is 27 years.
Read up on it. He has been violating health laws for years...child labor laws...hiring illegals.
They always just gotten wrist slaps and continued to ignore all the laws.
They were pretty much "in your face" about the violations over the years and nobody thought he'd ever have to pay for the crimes.
Yes, the author assumes the reader already knows all about the story.
Basically Rubashkin was the head guy at a large kosher meatpacking plant in Postville, Iowa. The plant was the site of a large immigration raid - the largest in US history at the time - with lots of workers deported. They also discovered lots of underage workers and some financial irregularities/fraud.
I believe the charges related to the alleged child labor violations -- which were matters of Iowa state law -- were also dropped for the same reason.
I see. So, if it was the US Naval shipyards in San Diego using illegals, that's ok. If it tens of thousands of households in Los Angeles using illegals for their house maids, lawn trimmers and contractors, that's OK. Matter of fact, if men women and children illegals stand outside Home Depot and wait to be picked up every day, that's not only OK, but the taxpayers have to build them shelters, pay for their kids education, health care, and give them welfare checks.
We have whole towns of illegals in California where sewage is running in the streets. Three quarters of the people in the L.A. county jails and most of the gang bangers here are illegals and are getting less time in Jail for assault and battery, attempted murder and armed robbery than this Rabbi.
The prosecutors didn't even ask for this big of a sentence -
The courts sentence today is even more than prosecutors asked for, which is a very disturbing development.
So, the locals are "elated" huh. I call it something else.
More info here.
Yes, he lied to the bank - and by lying, defrauded them out of $27 million. His sentence was 27 years - 1 year per million dollars the bank lost due to his fraud.
We can argue about whether that's reasonable, but let's at least be clear that this wasn't just a simple "lie."
"Somebody else got by with something similar...so it's OK."
There is so much you don't know about that place.
It's such a joke that they call their food Kosher...the place was always filthy...cattle excrement making it into the finished product among many of the violations where he just paid a fine and went on as usual.
Did you even bother to look up the history of the place?
Yep, he defrauded banks out of $27 million dollars....I would say this sentence is just about right. Why all the crying for this criminal here on FR....LOL. What part of “criminal” do these folks not understand.
Nobody questions the fact that the guy is scummy and deserves to be in prison. What people are discussing is the question of justice: find another criminal that got the same length of imprisonment for the same crime.
Not liberal at all. I have seen this before though. I have a very good friend whose life was destroyed by an over zealous prosecuter and king-sh*t cop judge. Destroyed his business, ruined his life, took all of his wealth. While he beat all his charges they made sit in jail for a time anyway, while the jail house guards took turns insulting him. Guess what, he just happened to be a religeous Jew. What a coincidence.
Did you even bother to look up the history of the place?
I am very familiar with it. I just don't think he deserves 27 years in the pen for it.
Maybe it was the cover-up of running 389 slave laborers all of them illegal.
Men like Rubashkin are destroying the country for greed.
Its just funny to me because I’ve never seen anyone on FR defending criminals and being upset over what sentence they received.
And you are not seeing that on this thread either.
It is sad that people who care about fairness of our justice system amuse you. Do you care about the Constitution, the fact that we are a country of laws, not men?
I'd venture to say that his religion (even though he seriously abused it by contaminating Kosher food with animal feces) is your main/only point of interest.
Had he been a Catholic you wouldn't have even posted.
Hey calm down....this guy’s lucky he didn’t get Bernie Madoff’s judge....150 years and counting. Then there’s Bernie Ebbers from WorldCom and on and on....I won’t shed a tear for this illegal alien employing, child labor law violating, health code violating, bank defrauding ba*tard....you can cry for him all you want.
Yes, that was the point of my exercise. In all of your posts, despite all the help to the contrary, you are screaming that you have not a clue about principles. You take sides and expect others to do so. You can't see a principled position when you are looking at it.
I wouldn't want to be in the trenches with you: sides can be changed, but principled people stick with principles.
Unfortunately, you don't even disagree with me: you don't have a clue what I and other people say here.
Have a good night; sleep on your chosen side.
Wow...now that’s a high falutin’ ramblin’ on self-defense of your “principled (sic) position” in defense of a scum-bag criminal...and you’re right...I don’t have a clue as to what the hell you’re talking about at this point. LMAO
Hiring illegals, I don't like that and would like to see employers financially ruined who employ them. No problem with jail time. 27 years might be a tad long.
But here in the USA, if you want to send someone to jail for employing illegals, you have to charge them with employing illegals. That didn't happen, if your implication is correct that the judge sentenced him for a crime he didn't commit, the judge should be impeached. But I'm sure he didn't.
Child labor, similar, but the prosecutor did charge him. My understanding we're talking 17 year olds, not 8, but no matter, child labor is child labor. And deserves a jail term.
Darn, the stinking jury acquitted him.
Oh well, no problem, he is guilty of wire fraud, so we'll just lump everything in together!
That's not the way our justice system works, at least not the way it's intended to work.
The controversy of the Postville plant has been documented since it was opened. Rubashkin and his kind (Jews) weren't welcome in all corners of the community. Lots written about that. Non-Kosher Kosher food, illegals, child labor, didn't fit in with the community. All of it irrelevant to the sentencing. His sentence doesn't appear to be consistant with other sentences for the same crime, though certainly within the judge's authority.
Yes, I know greed is destroying the country, what we need is Hope and Change. Thank you Michelle
To the point, which is the sentence, can you show me where he was convicted for running 389 slave laborers all of them illegal?
Or doesn't that matter in Rubashkin's case?
And if not, why not.
>>But in any case, employment of illegals was irrelevant.<<
BS in capital letters! This dude was selling kosher meat products to the Jewish community. He’s an Orthodox Jew. A leader in the Jewish community, no less and he didn’t put out the word for his employees to obey ALL the rules of the FDA and the laws of the US and Iowa state.
Being Jewish doesn’t give you a reason to break the law it is supposed to give you reasons to support them! I am glad he got busted and glad that he got hit with the hard time sentence.
If you support the illegals crossing the border and sucking up on our tax dollars, then you owe me a couple of hundred grand in tax dollars I’ve had to pay to support these frigging parasites.
No one has suggested it does.
The question is whether being a Jewish criminal means your sentence is based on general community attitudes as opposed to the crime of which you've been convicted.
Our system of jurisprudence relies on the latter, it's clear that many FR type conservatives don't.
Rubashkin will be able to make most of the 31 million dollar restitution so as far as I’m concerned 7-10 years at the most. This is a BS anti-Semitic scam prosecution
Rubashkin will win his appeal I hope.... those same dopes in Iowa couldn’t wait for their fake messiah 0bama
I’m not sure about the restitution, I think he’s broke, but as to the rest, you’re correct.
Im not sure about the restitution, I think hes broke, but as to the rest, youre correct.>>>>>>>>
The man has business asserts in the millions that will be auctioned off to make restitution. That’s my impression. 27 million in restitution was ordered
Broke after making what restitution he can, that makes sense.
In the Federal Courts is real important to take responsibility for your actions, not lie under oath, and cop a plea if you are guilty...otherwise you're going to do some serious time "within the federal sentencing guidelines"...good luck with that appeal Sholom.
He ripped us poor little taxpayers off for $27 Million dollars of our hard-earned money and you don't think he should be punished with a sentence of one year for every million $$ of the rip-off?
OK then, should we just make him stay after school and clean blackboard erasers, or should we try to get his attention and let him know this is serious?
And here I thought the issue was bank fraud, since that was the crime he was charged with. No matter, heck, let's execute him.
Am I correct in assuming your "taxpayers" comment is based on your support for nationalization of the banking industry? Obama thanks you.
Way to go!
No, just addressed your ridiculous assertations.
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