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Sholom Mordechai Rubashkin has been sentenced to 27 years in prison.
MATZAV ^ | June 21, 2010 | papabrody

Posted on 06/21/2010 3:32:48 PM PDT by papabrody

BREAKING NEWS, 11:50 A.M. est: Matzav.com has learned that Sholom Mordechai Rubashkin ahs been sentenced to 27 years in prison. Sholom Mordechai will also been ordered to pay nearly $31 million restitution when he’s sentenced tomorrow in U.S. District Court.

Chief U.S. District Court Judge Linda Reade issued the sentencing memorandum today, outlining the sentence she will impose at tomorrow’s hearing in Cedar Rapids. Reade indicated in the document she would not impose a fine.

Sholom Mordechai’s attorney Guy Cook says the sentence is unfair and excessive and that the conviction and sentencing will be appealed.

Family, friends and supporters of Sholom Mordechai expressed outrage today. The sentence is greater than the amended recommendation from prosecutors, and is inconsistent with calls from throughout the legal community for Rubashkin to be sentenced in a manner similar to other men and women convicted of white-collar crimes. For rest of the article follow link:

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I would like to know if this is pure antisemetism, over-zealous prosecution, union-we'll-getchya, PETA fever or all the above.
1 posted on 06/21/2010 3:32:49 PM PDT by papabrody
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All of the above, but I suspect that his appearance

may have been the major factor, and if that means antisemitism at the forfront, then that's what it is.

I suspect you'll see a successful appeal, then it all starts over again.

2 posted on 06/21/2010 3:42:45 PM PDT by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: papabrody

Looks like they are making a spectacle of him. This is ridiculous.


3 posted on 06/21/2010 3:42:45 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (G-d Bless President Bush. He kept us safe.)
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To: papabrody

well, don’t break the law and you won’t have some hard ass judge throw the book at ya.


4 posted on 06/21/2010 3:43:27 PM PDT by Hexenhammer (sic semper tyrannis)
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To: papabrody

I think PETA, although I recall this was a prosecutor that decided all Jewish people should be denied bail, since we can flee to Israel.


5 posted on 06/21/2010 3:48:14 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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$31 million bank fraud, 27 years. Lots of money, lots of years.

$35 million bank fraud, 63 to 78 months.

Rubashkin’s lawyers were negligent in not recomenting

And the kipa has to go.

6 posted on 06/21/2010 3:49:12 PM PDT by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: papabrody

Read the article and many of the comments and I still have no idea what this guy did.

And what does PETA have to do with it?


7 posted on 06/21/2010 3:52:47 PM PDT by moonhawk (Pre-order your "Don't blame me, I didn't vote!" bumper stickers here on Free Republic now.)
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To: SJackson
Too funny !!!
8 posted on 06/21/2010 3:54:00 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating Heart)
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To: Hexenhammer
well, don’t break the law and you won’t have some hard ass judge throw the book at ya.

The problem I have with this case is, what did Rubashkin actually do that was criminal? We are in the state of affairs Ayn Rand predicted, where there are so many laws that even honest citizens can't help but break some if they conduct extensive business. (I am NOT a big fan of Ayn Rand!)

Whatever his crime, 27 years, on top of full restitution, is the kind of sentence I'd like to see handed down to rapists, kidnappers and aggravated assualts. There would have to be ruined lives in the wake of Mr. Rubashkin's crimes to justify 27 years. That's about 1/3 of a lifetime!

9 posted on 06/21/2010 3:56:06 PM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (BORDERS, LAWS and LANGUAGE)
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To: papabrody

From the article, I cannot figure out what he was convicted of.


10 posted on 06/21/2010 3:56:40 PM PDT by Guyin4Os (A messianic ger-tsedek)
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To: Guyin4Os

He ran a meat-packing plant full of illegal immigrant workers (many of them children). He was convicted of mail fraud and money laundering for defrauding the plant’s banks and other creditors.


11 posted on 06/21/2010 4:03:41 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons

Bank/wire fraud. Without going into details, he lied on various financial statements and representations to his bank in order to obtain financing after the company was in financial trouble. He deserves prision time, but sentences should be proportional to the crime, and other violators.


12 posted on 06/21/2010 4:05:29 PM PDT by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: papabrody

What is the reasoning given for such a length of time in prison? It doesn’t seem appropriate when viewed against other similar cases.


13 posted on 06/21/2010 4:06:25 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: Guyin4Os

bad journalism- i come across it frequently when reading items of interest in the frum community and this publication is no exception-it’s ASSUMED YOU KNOW


14 posted on 06/21/2010 4:09:45 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Free Nobel Peace Prize with oil change =^..^=)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
He ran a meat-packing plant full of illegal immigrant workers (many of them children). He was convicted of mail fraud and money laundering for defrauding the plant’s banks and other creditors.

Ah. Well... exploiting children for labor is a BIG no-no as far as I am concerned. Just because he is Jewish doesn't mean he should be exempt from the law.

Although, one should take notice that some of the Islamic terrorists served less time in Gitmo than he will serve.

15 posted on 06/21/2010 4:09:59 PM PDT by Guyin4Os (A messianic ger-tsedek)
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To: papabrody

If his name was Mohammed al Zahir, Obama’s Justice Department would be demanding his release...


16 posted on 06/21/2010 4:10:13 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
He ran a meat-packing plant full of illegal immigrant workers (many of them children

He claims to have been unaware of that. I don't believe him, but others were convicted for those crimes, he wasn't even charges, so the sentence cannot be based on that. It's my understanding that testimony along those lines was allowed during the trial, which I suspect may earn the taxpayers the bill for a new trial. But in any case, employment of illegals was irrelevant.

17 posted on 06/21/2010 4:11:13 PM PDT by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: Guyin4Os
Ah. Well... exploiting children for labor is a BIG no-no as far as I am concerned. Just because he is Jewish doesn't mean he should be exempt from the law.

As I noted in 17, I'd be happy to throw employers in jail for employing illegals, perhaps not for 27 years. But to do that you have to be willing to charge and convict them. Which despite extensive investigation, didn't happen here.

18 posted on 06/21/2010 4:12:47 PM PDT by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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I would like to know if this is pure antisemetism, over-zealous prosecution, union-we'll-getchya, PETA fever or all the above.

Not at all... you're REALLY jumping to conclusions.

I live not far from there.

His company, over the years, has violated just about every health law known to science and each time they just got a slap on the wrist.

He had illegal Mexicans working there and even violated child labor laws.

Locals thought he would get by with this stuff and are elated that he will finally have to pay the price.

19 posted on 06/21/2010 4:17:41 PM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: papabrody

He lied to the bank. This looks like a crime that would warrant 5 years. 27 years is insane. This is federal court, meaning that 27 years really is 27 years.


20 posted on 06/21/2010 4:21:11 PM PDT by Chet 99
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons
The problem I have with this case is, what did Rubashkin actually do that was criminal?

Read up on it. He has been violating health laws for years...child labor laws...hiring illegals.

They always just gotten wrist slaps and continued to ignore all the laws.

They were pretty much "in your face" about the violations over the years and nobody thought he'd ever have to pay for the crimes.

21 posted on 06/21/2010 4:21:48 PM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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Read the article and many of the comments and I still have no idea what this guy did.

Yes, the author assumes the reader already knows all about the story.

Basically Rubashkin was the head guy at a large kosher meatpacking plant in Postville, Iowa. The plant was the site of a large immigration raid - the largest in US history at the time - with lots of workers deported. They also discovered lots of underage workers and some financial irregularities/fraud.

22 posted on 06/21/2010 4:24:43 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: papabrody
This was a strange case (actually several cases) that played out over many months in different jurisdictions. I believe this sentence involves the Federal charges of bank fraud and/or embezzlement. After he was convicted in Federal court the prosecutors dropped all the charges related to the hiring of illegal immigrants at the meat packing plant . . . they knew that his sentence for the financial crimes would be so severe that the immigration violations would be overkill and unnecessary.

I believe the charges related to the alleged child labor violations -- which were matters of Iowa state law -- were also dropped for the same reason.

23 posted on 06/21/2010 4:25:18 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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His company, over the years, has violated just about every health law known to science and each time they just got a slap on the wrist. He had illegal Mexicans working there and even violated child labor laws.

I see. So, if it was the US Naval shipyards in San Diego using illegals, that's ok. If it tens of thousands of households in Los Angeles using illegals for their house maids, lawn trimmers and contractors, that's OK. Matter of fact, if men women and children illegals stand outside Home Depot and wait to be picked up every day, that's not only OK, but the taxpayers have to build them shelters, pay for their kids education, health care, and give them welfare checks.

We have whole towns of illegals in California where sewage is running in the streets. Three quarters of the people in the L.A. county jails and most of the gang bangers here are illegals and are getting less time in Jail for assault and battery, attempted murder and armed robbery than this Rabbi.

The prosecutors didn't even ask for this big of a sentence -

“The court’s sentence today is even more than prosecutors asked for, which is a very disturbing development.”

So, the locals are "elated" huh. I call it something else.

24 posted on 06/21/2010 4:33:11 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Chet 99; papabrody; moonhawk
He lied to the bank. This looks like a crime that would warrant 5 years. 27 years is insane. This is federal court, meaning that 27 years really is 27 years.

More info here.

Yes, he lied to the bank - and by lying, defrauded them out of $27 million. His sentence was 27 years - 1 year per million dollars the bank lost due to his fraud.

We can argue about whether that's reasonable, but let's at least be clear that this wasn't just a simple "lie."

25 posted on 06/21/2010 4:34:02 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Nachum
You're just loaded with "moral equivalence" (a definite liberal trait).

"Somebody else got by with something similar...so it's OK."

There is so much you don't know about that place.

It's such a joke that they call their food Kosher...the place was always filthy...cattle excrement making it into the finished product among many of the violations where he just paid a fine and went on as usual.

Did you even bother to look up the history of the place?

26 posted on 06/21/2010 4:38:45 PM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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Yep, he defrauded banks out of $27 million dollars....I would say this sentence is just about right. Why all the crying for this criminal here on FR....LOL. What part of “criminal” do these folks not understand.


27 posted on 06/21/2010 4:43:55 PM PDT by northwinds
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To: northwinds

Nobody questions the fact that the guy is scummy and deserves to be in prison. What people are discussing is the question of justice: find another criminal that got the same length of imprisonment for the same crime.


28 posted on 06/21/2010 4:53:06 PM PDT by TopQuark
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You're just loaded with "moral equivalence" (a definite liberal trait)

Not liberal at all. I have seen this before though. I have a very good friend whose life was destroyed by an over zealous prosecuter and king-sh*t cop judge. Destroyed his business, ruined his life, took all of his wealth. While he beat all his charges they made sit in jail for a time anyway, while the jail house guards took turns insulting him. Guess what, he just happened to be a religeous Jew. What a coincidence.

Did you even bother to look up the history of the place?

I am very familiar with it. I just don't think he deserves 27 years in the pen for it.

29 posted on 06/21/2010 4:57:19 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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but I suspect that his appearance may have been the major factor, and if that means antisemitism at the forfront, then that's what it is.

Maybe it was the cover-up of running 389 slave laborers all of them illegal.

Men like Rubashkin are destroying the country for greed.

30 posted on 06/21/2010 4:58:25 PM PDT by donna (Yah Mo B There - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HbbM-FG8lQ)
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To: TopQuark

Its just funny to me because I’ve never seen anyone on FR defending criminals and being upset over what sentence they received.


31 posted on 06/21/2010 5:01:20 PM PDT by northwinds
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To: northwinds
" I’ve never seen anyone on FR defending criminals "

And you are not seeing that on this thread either.

It is sad that people who care about fairness of our justice system amuse you. Do you care about the Constitution, the fact that we are a country of laws, not men?

32 posted on 06/21/2010 5:03:24 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Nachum
More moral equivalence.

I'd venture to say that his religion (even though he seriously abused it by contaminating Kosher food with animal feces) is your main/only point of interest.

Had he been a Catholic you wouldn't have even posted.

33 posted on 06/21/2010 5:04:06 PM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: TopQuark

Hey calm down....this guy’s lucky he didn’t get Bernie Madoff’s judge....150 years and counting. Then there’s Bernie Ebbers from WorldCom and on and on....I won’t shed a tear for this illegal alien employing, child labor law violating, health code violating, bank defrauding ba*tard....you can cry for him all you want.


34 posted on 06/21/2010 5:09:41 PM PDT by northwinds
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To: northwinds
"....I won’t shed a tear for this illegal alien employing, child labor law violating, health code violating, bank defrauding ba*tard....you can cry for him all you want."

Yes, that was the point of my exercise. In all of your posts, despite all the help to the contrary, you are screaming that you have not a clue about principles. You take sides and expect others to do so. You can't see a principled position when you are looking at it.

I wouldn't want to be in the trenches with you: sides can be changed, but principled people stick with principles.

Unfortunately, you don't even disagree with me: you don't have a clue what I and other people say here.

Have a good night; sleep on your chosen side.

35 posted on 06/21/2010 5:21:53 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark

Wow...now that’s a high falutin’ ramblin’ on self-defense of your “principled (sic) position” in defense of a scum-bag criminal...and you’re right...I don’t have a clue as to what the hell you’re talking about at this point. LMAO


36 posted on 06/21/2010 5:26:03 PM PDT by northwinds
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To: capt. norm; Nachum; Alberta's Child
The problem you refuse to address is the basis of the sentence. You seem to want him sentenced for presumably non-Kosher Kosher meat. Likely a civil action, but not charged, and frankly not a charge heard much from the people who eat Kosher meat, thus might be knowledgeable.

Hiring illegals, I don't like that and would like to see employers financially ruined who employ them. No problem with jail time. 27 years might be a tad long.

But here in the USA, if you want to send someone to jail for employing illegals, you have to charge them with employing illegals. That didn't happen, if your implication is correct that the judge sentenced him for a crime he didn't commit, the judge should be impeached. But I'm sure he didn't.

Child labor, similar, but the prosecutor did charge him. My understanding we're talking 17 year olds, not 8, but no matter, child labor is child labor. And deserves a jail term.

Darn, the stinking jury acquitted him.

Oh well, no problem, he is guilty of wire fraud, so we'll just lump everything in together!

That's not the way our justice system works, at least not the way it's intended to work.

The controversy of the Postville plant has been documented since it was opened. Rubashkin and his kind (Jews) weren't welcome in all corners of the community. Lots written about that. Non-Kosher Kosher food, illegals, child labor, didn't fit in with the community. All of it irrelevant to the sentencing. His sentence doesn't appear to be consistant with other sentences for the same crime, though certainly within the judge's authority.

37 posted on 06/21/2010 5:32:01 PM PDT by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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Maybe it was the cover-up of running 389 slave laborers all of them illegal....Men like Rubashkin are destroying the country for greed.

Could be.

Yes, I know greed is destroying the country, what we need is Hope and Change. Thank you Michelle

To the point, which is the sentence, can you show me where he was convicted for running 389 slave laborers all of them illegal?

Or doesn't that matter in Rubashkin's case?

And if not, why not.

38 posted on 06/21/2010 5:34:59 PM PDT by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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>>But in any case, employment of illegals was irrelevant.<<

BS in capital letters! This dude was selling kosher meat products to the Jewish community. He’s an Orthodox Jew. A leader in the Jewish community, no less and he didn’t put out the word for his employees to obey ALL the rules of the FDA and the laws of the US and Iowa state.

Being Jewish doesn’t give you a reason to break the law it is supposed to give you reasons to support them! I am glad he got busted and glad that he got hit with the hard time sentence.

If you support the illegals crossing the border and sucking up on our tax dollars, then you owe me a couple of hundred grand in tax dollars I’ve had to pay to support these frigging parasites.


39 posted on 06/21/2010 5:37:37 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Remember, guys, the enemy is to the left.)
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To: B4Ranch
Being Jewish doesn’t give you a reason to break the law

No one has suggested it does.

The question is whether being a Jewish criminal means your sentence is based on general community attitudes as opposed to the crime of which you've been convicted.

Our system of jurisprudence relies on the latter, it's clear that many FR type conservatives don't.

40 posted on 06/21/2010 5:46:07 PM PDT by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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No problem with jail time. 27 years might be a tad long.

Exactly.

41 posted on 06/21/2010 5:51:13 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: SJackson

Rubashkin will be able to make most of the 31 million dollar restitution so as far as I’m concerned 7-10 years at the most. This is a BS anti-Semitic scam prosecution

Rubashkin will win his appeal I hope.... those same dopes in Iowa couldn’t wait for their fake messiah 0bama


42 posted on 06/21/2010 5:51:43 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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I’m not sure about the restitution, I think he’s broke, but as to the rest, you’re correct.


43 posted on 06/21/2010 5:55:47 PM PDT by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: SJackson

I’m not sure about the restitution, I think he’s broke, but as to the rest, you’re correct.>>>>>>>>

The man has business asserts in the millions that will be auctioned off to make restitution. That’s my impression. 27 million in restitution was ordered


44 posted on 06/21/2010 6:17:51 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: dennisw

Broke after making what restitution he can, that makes sense.


45 posted on 06/21/2010 6:29:50 PM PDT by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: Nachum
[Judge]"Reade stated in the order that the sentence is within the guideline range and is “firmly rooted in credible evidence” produced at trial, the sentencing hearing and in the uncontested portions of the pre sentencing report. Reade said in her order that no matter what Rubashkin’s motives were, he defrauded the banks out of millions of dollars. “He unlawfully placed his family business’s interest above the victim bank’s interest,” Reade stated. “His family business and he personally benefitted at the expense of all the victim banks’ innocent shareholders.” Assistant U.S. Attorney Bob Teig said this afternoon the defense’s press release and comments today are “nothing new. They are repeats of the misinformation they have repeated for months.” Teig said it’s unfair of the defense to compare other sentences in white collar type crimes because they never give any details of the circumstances in those cases. “We don’t know if they cooperated or accepted responsibility or what,” Teig said. In the sentencing order Reade states she considered Rubashkin’s conduct – he lied under oath at trial, Teig said. Reade wrote Rubashkin lied about asking an employee to create bills of lading to match false invoices. The government submitted evidence of the fake invoices and bills of lading in a folder labeled “Sholom.” Teig offers these sentences of white collar fraud cases – Tom Petters, 50 years; 324 months for Colin Nathanson, 20 years for Michael Riolo; 20 years for Richard Piccoli; 100 years for Edward Okun. The proposed 27 years isn’t unusual in these kinds of cases, he said.

In the Federal Courts is real important to take responsibility for your actions, not lie under oath, and cop a plea if you are guilty...otherwise you're going to do some serious time "within the federal sentencing guidelines"...good luck with that appeal Sholom.

46 posted on 06/21/2010 6:30:00 PM PDT by northwinds
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To: SJackson
His sentence doesn't appear to be consistant with other sentences for the same crime, though certainly within the judge's authority.

He ripped us poor little taxpayers off for $27 Million dollars of our hard-earned money and you don't think he should be punished with a sentence of one year for every million $$ of the rip-off?

OK then, should we just make him stay after school and clean blackboard erasers, or should we try to get his attention and let him know this is serious?


47 posted on 06/21/2010 6:39:38 PM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: capt. norm
He ripped us poor little taxpayers off for $27 Million dollars of our hard-earned money and you don't think he should be punished with a sentence of one year for every million $$ of the rip-off?

And here I thought the issue was bank fraud, since that was the crime he was charged with. No matter, heck, let's execute him.

Am I correct in assuming your "taxpayers" comment is based on your support for nationalization of the banking industry? Obama thanks you.

48 posted on 06/21/2010 6:43:52 PM PDT by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: SJackson
You read my reply and applied every bias known to science with your ridiculous interpretation.

Way to go!


49 posted on 06/21/2010 6:47:53 PM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: capt. norm

No, just addressed your ridiculous assertations.


50 posted on 06/21/2010 6:48:42 PM PDT by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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