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To: DJ MacWoW

Yes!

It doesn’t matter if I like it or not, or you like it or not, the U.S. Constitution, the U.S. Code, the precendent set by the Ark case, all say

YES!!!

The law is crystal clear. And unlike the accusation put forward, this question has been raised before and in each case has been consistent.

If you are born in the United States, and you are subject to the laws of the United States, you ARE a natural born citizen.


22 posted on 06/22/2010 4:58:16 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
It doesn’t matter if I like it or not

You're right. What you think doesn't matter. What matters is what the old white guys said. And they had discussions, the text of which have been posted on FR. They worried about divided loyalty. So they put into the requirements a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN of TWO CITIZEN PARENTS. You should read some history.

the precendent set by the Ark case

Talking points again. That case had NOTHING to do with Presidential qualifications.

26 posted on 06/22/2010 5:03:33 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
If you are born in the United States, and you are subject to the laws of the United States, you ARE a natural born citizen.

So, osama could pop a kid here, go raise him in a cave, send him back to this Country to become POTUS...is that what you think The Founders had in mind with the NBC Clause?????.......please tell me your line of reasoning..........dude, waiting......can't wait......

29 posted on 06/22/2010 5:05:52 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

“If you are born in the United States, and you are subject to the laws of the United States, you ARE a natural born citizen.”

Not true. You are completely wrong. Sorry, nice try.


52 posted on 06/22/2010 5:43:24 PM PDT by Lower55
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
The law is crystal clear. And unlike the accusation put forward, this question has been raised before and in each case has been consistent.

If you are born in the United States, and you are subject to the laws of the United States, you ARE a natural born citizen.

ROFLMAO to begin with this crystal clear allegation of yours, what does subject to the laws of the United States mean (to you)

75 posted on 06/22/2010 6:22:31 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
So, osama could pop a kid here, go raise him in a cave, send him back to this Country to become POTUS...is that what you think The Founders had in mind with the NBC Clause?????.......please tell me your line of reasoning..........dude, waiting......can't wait......

Curiously......I'm still waiting for your answer......................................................................................................

82 posted on 06/22/2010 6:35:30 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Above is the actual text of the 14th amendment . You took the first half of your statement ANYONE BORN IN THE U.S. from the citizenship section of the clause , then you took the second part YOU ARE SUBJECT TO THE LAWS OF THE U.S. from the equal rights section of the clause. This makes it APPEAR that your citizenship is based on you following the laws instead of being born a subject( a citizen oweing allegiance) by birth to American citizens. Citizenship is based on the allegiance of the parents . This is supported by the case of Wong KIm Ark, Minor vs Happensett, and numerious others.


119 posted on 06/23/2010 8:22:16 AM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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