Michael Steele causes uproar with Afghan remarks (Michael 'WhoDat?' Steele Sighting /sarc )

Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 7/2/10 | John Whitesides

[Vinnie]

Bingo. Fight to win or pull out.

[muleskinner]

Last Straw Alert!

[Captain Kirk]

Steele is right. Obama’s nation building war is a hopeless quagmire and only undermines national defense. Bring the troops home and end Obama’s War!

[stephenjohnbanker]

Why is it that politics attracts the lowest and dumbest quadrant of society??

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“For the idle, narcissistic egotist, what other path offers so much opportunity to showboat, abuse people, and live well and securely?

Dillinger robbed banks because he just wanted the money. If he had other character defects he might have run for office. “

Post of the Day!!

[ladyvet]

The Rats are looking like crap right now and the Republicans continue to screw up so bad it’s almost like it’s intentional.

[reardensteel]

Really happy to see there is independent thinking here still. Great points in your response...and I agree. There is no “winning”. We should simply leave with the message that if it happens again we will come back and bomb them until even the rocks have been turned to dust. Then leave again for them to wallow in the dust, leaving them again the same message. “Happens again, we will bomb you again.”

Go back to retaliation, not pre-emption and not nation building, culture changing, etc. Just the hard fist, which is all those rock heads will ever understand.

[SaraJohnson]

Uh oh! We have politically incorrect thinking going on in here???? LOL!

Measure the war in light of the current circumstances, not in yesterday’s terms. I know it is hard for some people to take in new information and realities, but it is something adults have to do in life. Espeically if they want to govern.

You are wrong. Bush was in Afghanistan, but he was not in it like he was in Iraq. FACT: Obama esclated the Afghan war. You don’t think the McCrystal wanted Bush to send the additional troops? They just all of a sudden made that up when the Kenyan entered office? Why did not Bush do that? Maybe he did not see it as a head on confrontation in tatics????? McCrystal turned out to be a real winner.

Facts are facts - get used to it. Dear Reader esclated the war and set terms of engagement that endanger our troops and protect our enemies - VIET NAM ALL OVER AGAIN! He’s putting the troops in there but he loves the enemy more than he is committed to winning the war. Just like the Marxists did with the Reds during the Cold War.

I think you are ignorant in what you said - so we’s even.:)

[SaraJohnson]

I bet you do know about illegals. ;)

[SaraJohnson]

Yep. Some people have a real hard time moving their minds along with the changing scenery of situations. They think it makes them wrong to begin with if they change their minds with unfolding circumstances. They would do anything not to be wrong.

But they are not wrong...the circumstances changed and adults are supposed to be able analyze current reality and change stragegy when indicated.

[Psalm 144]

We should simply leave with the message that if it happens again we will come back and bomb them until even the rocks have been turned to dust.

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IMO, there were three leaders who had a proper appreciation of Islam, and dealt with it as it should be. In ascending order of skill, diligence and effect:

Charles Martel

Vlad Tepes

Genghis Khan

[arthurus]

We are not fighting a "war" in Afghanistan to Win any territory or much of anything else. Winning in Afghanistan is not an option unless we are ready for classic colonization of the place for a couple of centuries. There is nothing there on which to build a country. The trillion $ worth of resources won't do it. It will only support an oligarchy of Croesuses. We are in Afghanistan to deny the area to the Jihad for effective use in the Islamic War or the Long War, whichever way one would term it. That requires occupation and border warfare for the duration of that Islamic War which will last until the West, America at the moment, finds the insight and fortitude to do what must be done to shut down the Jihad i.e. destroy utterly the military and economic capability of the current center of the Islamic resurgence. Right now and for the foreseeable future, that is Iran. This war has lasted for 13+ centuries and will not end short of extermination or conversion of either all Mohammedans or of all Infidels but it can be shut down for a generation or a century or two by a decisive destruction of its current leading proponent, Iran. It took decisive defeats in the past at Tours and at Lepanto and Vienna and Malta to stop Jihad in the past. They did not end the war but they put it in remission for lengths of time. Sanctions do not rise to meet the requirements. Diplomacy only promotes the Jihad.

[Terry Mross]

Is this guy really this stupid? Or is it simply that there’s not that much difference in the two parties. I go with the latter. It all depends which one is in the majority. Once the majority changes so does the talking points.

[trisham]

That would not surprise me at all.

[Psalm 144]

I just read your ‘about’ page.

I grok.

[Soul Seeker]

Michael,

Leave. Now.

I tolerate politics about the war with NO one and NO party. We (meaning America and her troops) win or We (meaning America lose. Don’t you dare try to make this a game the way the Democrat’s did for 8 years.

[Soul Seeker]

Please tell me Freepers do not honestly believe Michael Steele was engaged in thoughtful dissertation about the genesis and development of this war under both administration’s.

He’s a political hack who was trying to dump it on the Democrat’s and Obama the way they did to Bush and demoagogue it for partisan gain.

If people want to have a debate about the war go ahead. But let’s stop this “Steele was right” nonsense. Unless you think he’s right to use it as a political tool since that is about as deep as his thoughts go.

[La Enchiladita]

Dawson: RNC should remove Steele

Former South Carolina GOP chairman Katon Dawson, who finished second to Michael Steele in the Republican National Committee chairman's race last year, is calling on the committee to oust their embattled chairman.

Steele is under fire for suggesting at a fundraiser Thursday that the war in Afghanistan cannot be won. After a salvo of criticism from Democrats and some Republicans Friday, Steele walked back his remarks and said he supports the mission.

"The RNC should do the responsible thing and show Steele the door," Dawson told CNN. "Enough is enough."

[stephenjohnbanker]

They won’t get rid of him, and 4 weeks before the November elections, Steele will quit, citing “racism” and take a job with a Democrat lobbying company.

[La Enchiladita]

It’s surreal to recall how much he used to be admired here, and was supported for the chairmanship, but could not be more of a disaster at this point.

[Deb]

Since everyone is keying off the Reuters article I refuse to believe he meant anything other than Obama said Afghanistan was the worthwhile war and shouldn't be ignored in favor of Iraq. Which is what he claimed in every speech.

I hate the way everyone here jumps on the "Dump Steele" bandwagon at the slightest misquote by the Left. MSNBC has been campaigning for the Republicans to chase away its most visible Black member since he was made head of the RNC.

Can't you malcontents ever see when you;re being played?