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Michael Steele causes uproar with Afghan remarks (Michael 'WhoDat?' Steele Sighting /sarc )
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 7/2/10 | John Whitesides

Posted on 07/02/2010 12:57:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Republican Party leader Michael Steele faced heavy criticism and calls for his resignation on Friday after blaming President Barack Obama for the Afghanistan war and suggesting it could not be won.

At a Republican fundraiser in Connecticut on Thursday, Steele was videotaped while criticizing Obama's decision to bolster the Afghanistan war effort. The comments contradicted the stance of the party, which has consistently pushed for more troops and funding in Afghanistan.

"This was a war of Obama's choosing," said Steele, chairman of the Republican National Committee. "This is not something the United States had actively prosecuted or wanted to engage in."

Steele also called the recent resignation of Afghan war commander General Stanley McChrystal "comical" and made fun of Obama for deciding to increase the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

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The United States invaded Afghanistan under Republican President George W. Bush in retaliation for the September 11, 2001, attacks by al Qaeda, whose leaders had taken refuge there.

The comments sparked a wave of criticism from Democrats and calls for Steele's resignation, led by prominent Republican conservative columnist Bill Kristol.

"Needless to say, the war in Afghanistan was not 'a war of Obama's choosing,'" Kristol said in a blog on the Weekly Standard magazine site. "It has been prosecuted by the United States under Presidents Bush and Obama. Republicans have consistently supported the effort.

"There are, of course, those who think we should pull out of Afghanistan and they're certainly entitled to make their case. But one of them shouldn't be the chairman of the Republican Party."

Steele issued a statement trying to extricate himself from the controversy, saying Obama's shift in the U.S. military focus from Iraq to Afghanistan means "this is his strategy."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afghan; michaelsteele; remarks; uproar
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1 posted on 07/02/2010 12:57:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

THIS is the opportunity to dump this quisling!

DO IT NOW!


2 posted on 07/02/2010 12:59:24 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Green shoots? Those aren't green shoots! Those are mold spots!)
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Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairman Michael Steele, pictured on Capitol Hill in 2009, drew heavy fire Friday for confused comments in which he blamed the war in Afghanistan on President Barack Obama and seemed to label it a lost cause. (AFP/File/Saul Loeb)


3 posted on 07/02/2010 12:59:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: NormsRevenge

Michael Steele, the Democrats’ favorite Republican.

JUST RESIGN ALREADY!

}:-)4


4 posted on 07/02/2010 12:59:53 PM PDT by Moose4 (November 2, 2010--the day that "YES WE CAN" becomes "OH NO YOU DIN'T")
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To: NormsRevenge

Man, Steele should be landing easy shots on the Dems. Not this $#!+.


5 posted on 07/02/2010 1:00:00 PM PDT by Mere Survival (Mere Survival: The new American Dream)
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To: NormsRevenge
Get him out of there!

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
6 posted on 07/02/2010 1:00:37 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Steele will resign 30 days before the November elections, calling the RNC “RACIST” Obama will offer him a job.


7 posted on 07/02/2010 1:01:03 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Does he drink or what?


8 posted on 07/02/2010 1:03:08 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: NormsRevenge

The RNC board members that thought this guy was good should also resign.


9 posted on 07/02/2010 1:03:36 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Obama will sink as fast as he rose. (False) Idolatry will not succeed. Be patient, folks...)
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To: NormsRevenge
Well, you hire showcase and you get showcase.

Imagine, racial disloyalty, in this day and age.

10 posted on 07/02/2010 1:03:50 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Steele's remarks are wrong. Bush was the first to send troops to Afghanistan. The administration (Bush) got sidetracked on Iraq and seemed to not have a strategy.

However, I think there is an underlying point to it being "Obama's War" in that Obama doesn't care if we win, in fact, he may not want us to win. He'll manage it in a way that loses US and Allied soldiers and hold on to it until he can decide, politically, that enough is enough.

11 posted on 07/02/2010 1:05:00 PM PDT by DallasDeb (USAFA '06 Mom)
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To: Psalm 144

He’s accurate in what he said. Bush was not prosecuting a full blown war in Afghanistan. He was in Iraq. Obama esclated it to a higher level of war than Bush had going.

Second, he is right that we should pull out of that war. Obama is fighting it like a sympathizer for our enemies - it is viet nam all over again. He is getting soldiers killed with his love of Muslims.

Krystal loves war a bit too much. He’s got a brainless knee jerk thing going on and he could care less about the troops. They are fodder to him.


12 posted on 07/02/2010 1:05:45 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: NormsRevenge
"This was a war of Obama's choosing," said Steele, chairman of the Republican National Committee. "This is not something the United States had actively prosecuted or wanted to engage in."

"If he's such a student of history, has he not understood that you know that's the one thing you don't do, is engage in a land war in Afghanistan?" Steele asked the crowd


At this point I think Michael Steele is a DailyKOS plant on a mission to embarrass the GOP as much as possible. If the GOP wants to be taken seriously, they'll stop pulling dumb stunts like appointing this clown to the chairmanship of the RNC.
13 posted on 07/02/2010 1:05:45 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: DallasDeb

I would agree with your analysis..

Ask the Russians about Afghanistan.. whether Obama wanted it or not, it is his baby now..

Steele may have overdone his remarks just a wee bit.


14 posted on 07/02/2010 1:06:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: Moose4

How about Sarah take over the RNC? RINOs still there probably wouldn’t allow it.


15 posted on 07/02/2010 1:06:55 PM PDT by DallasDeb (USAFA '06 Mom)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Wow. I thought I was the only one with that fear floating in the back of my mind.


16 posted on 07/02/2010 1:07:03 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Steele will resign 30 days before the November elections, calling the RNC “RACIST” Obama will offer him a job.

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I am convinced this year’s October surprise will be some kind of oh-so-predictable “gaff” from Steele.

That is why THIS is the opportunity to roll his too talkative head.


17 posted on 07/02/2010 1:10:45 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (The Democrats' mascot is a jackass. This is because they are asses who are in it for the jack.)
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To: nuconvert

Does he drink or what?

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No. Nor is he stupid. This is why I conclude that he is a deliberate sabateur. These ‘episodes’ are so frequent and predictable that they must be deliberate.


18 posted on 07/02/2010 1:13:09 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (The Democrats' mascot is a jackass. This is because they are asses who are in it for the jack.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

A definite possibility, IMO.


19 posted on 07/02/2010 1:15:05 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: NormsRevenge

Steele is, so far (IMO), the WORST RNC chair ever - surpassing even the dismal performance of Mel Martinez.

Why is it that politics attracts the lowest and dumbest quadrant of society??


20 posted on 07/02/2010 1:16:39 PM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: NormsRevenge
"This was a war of Obama's choosing," said Steele, chairman of the Republican National Committee. "This is not something the United States had actively prosecuted or wanted to engage in."

WTF, I had to check the calendar to see if it was April 1st..

21 posted on 07/02/2010 1:18:14 PM PDT by Riodacat (Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: SaraJohnson
He’s accurate in what he said. Bush was not prosecuting a full blown war in Afghanistan. He was in Iraq. Obama esclated it to a higher level of war than Bush had going.

That's true. I have been kind of baffled by Obama's approach. I remember him talking smack about Pakistan, and about Afghanistan, and I wonder... why is he so into Afghanistan and so opposed to Iraq? I don't get it.

22 posted on 07/02/2010 1:19:46 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (I can see November from my house.)
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To: DustyMoment

Why is it that politics attracts the lowest and dumbest quadrant of society??

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For the idle, narcissistic egotist, what other path offers so much opportunity to showboat, abuse people, and live well and securely?

Dillinger robbed banks because he just wanted the money. If he had other character defects he might have run for office.


23 posted on 07/02/2010 1:20:41 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (The Democrats' mascot is a jackass. This is because they are asses who are in it for the jack.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Who is responsible for us having this halfwit in any capacity other than cleaning a bathroom.
24 posted on 07/02/2010 1:22:14 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: NormsRevenge

25 posted on 07/02/2010 1:22:20 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy inas whatever room he walks into.)
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To: SaraJohnson

My relatives who are fighting in Afghn. understand why they are there and must stay there and win.

We could pull out tomorrow and will have the same problems, only on our soil.


26 posted on 07/02/2010 1:23:59 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: A_perfect_lady

That’s true. I have been kind of baffled by Obama’s approach. I remember him talking smack about Pakistan, and about Afghanistan, and I wonder... why is he so into Afghanistan and so opposed to Iraq? I don’t get it.

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Most of the Democrats took this position. I think it was simply kneejerk to do whatever was the opposite of Bush’s policy in any given area. Suddenly, they actually had to deliver after the utter routs in ‘06 and ‘08 left hem in charge.


27 posted on 07/02/2010 1:24:11 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (The Democrats' mascot is a jackass. This is because they are asses who are in it for the jack.)
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Ken Blackwell, pick up the red courtesy phone


28 posted on 07/02/2010 1:26:54 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Psalm 144

Deliberate sabotage—like when Chris Darden torpedoed the OJ trial with the gloves debacle?

I watched Orca Winfrey a few years ago, not something I usually do. It so happened Darden was on that day. He told Orca, when she asked him about Mark Fuhrman, that when Darden and Johnnie Cochran were chatting before the trial started that the prosecution would have trouble with “that white boy”.

Fatso Orca chuckled at that-kind of ironic, Darden and Cochrane slurred Fuhrman racially, which was no big deal, but Fuhrman, who was more of a man than either of those POSs, was dragged through the mud for using similar slurs in a private conversation.

Brainless Steele is stupid and bigmouthed-like a suntanned Biden, but he may in fact do something on purpose. Race trumps all for these folks.


29 posted on 07/02/2010 1:28:31 PM PDT by Mac from Cleveland ("See what you made me do?" Major Malik Hasan)
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To: A_perfect_lady

To me the problem is that he is not really into the war. He demanded rules of engagement that place our troops in harms way because he does not give a you know what about our troops. It is Viet Nam all over again.

We are fighting a war where one of the political parties (DNC) is an ally of the enemy. We did it once...we should be smart enough not to do it again.


30 posted on 07/02/2010 1:29:05 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SoCalPol

The border is wide open and evidence shows they are already here. You will be fighting them in the US along with the drug cartels and the communist regime in power.


31 posted on 07/02/2010 1:30:17 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: NormsRevenge; All

We have been understanding (recognizing all the intra-party intrigue that goes on), forgiving (realizing good intentions are not always put forth with the best action), patient (O.K, everyone makes mistakes and CAN learn from them) and willing to ignore slips of the tongue and mere communication gaffs; but no more.

We should have said “no more” when Steele spoke of some of the inside-the-GOP complaints about his performance as complaints that would have been with-held by everyone if he were not Black. That was as untrue as is his view on what “the GOP” position has been, and is, on the security efforts in Afghanistan.

His current error is not about what any of us think about what’s going on in Afghanistan now; it’s not about what any of us individually think about how much longer we will maintain the effort or should do so.

It’s about what “the GOP” thinks, and HAS thought of the efforts in Afghanistan.

He has totally mis-stated the dominant GOP policy point of view on Afghanistan, from inception of hostilities there to now, from GW Bush and majorities in the GOP in Congress, every year since we took down the Taliban government, to now, and among majorities within the grass roots of the GOP during that same period of time. His statement is not the reflection of a “GOP” view; if anything, it is purely his own.

One cannot be the national “leader” of a political party and speak on such a major issue with an opinion that does not have, never had, most of the party behind it. The party is not and will not follow such a person.

He needs to go - NOW.


32 posted on 07/02/2010 1:33:07 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: SaraJohnson

I live 20 miles north of the largest and busiest border crossing in the world, San Diego - Tijuana, Mexico.

Don’t tell me about illegals.

We have to deal with both, not one or the other.


33 posted on 07/02/2010 1:33:28 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Mac from Cleveland

Race trumps all for these folks.

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For many, but not all. Alan Keyes, Thomas Sowell and Justice Thomas come to mind.

Appointing Thomas was the best thing G. H. W. Bush did in his term.


34 posted on 07/02/2010 1:34:26 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (The Democrats' mascot is a jackass. This is because they are asses who are in it for the jack.)
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Pan_Yan just said, “Where was Michael Steele on September 12, 2001?”

What the hell is Steele thinking? Obama is showing no interest in winning Afghanistan. Why doesn’t Steele just let this be?


35 posted on 07/02/2010 1:36:18 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Utopia is being foisted on Americans for their own good.-- J. Robert Smith)
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To: Psalm 144
If he had other character defects he might have run for office.

LOL!!! Excellent point. I concede to the master!!

36 posted on 07/02/2010 1:38:38 PM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: Moose4

Well, party leaders wanted an affirmative action head. And they got it. I wonder when he’ll declare that the party is incapable of winning in November.


37 posted on 07/02/2010 1:38:45 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: NormsRevenge

This is what the RNC gets for hiring idiots.


38 posted on 07/02/2010 1:40:12 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: nuconvert

Maybe he is going to the strip clubs on the RNC’s dime again.


39 posted on 07/02/2010 1:43:17 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: SaraJohnson

You are so ignorant on all your points!

We went to WAR in Afghanistan with Bush...we had two WARS..Iraq and Afghanistan.

Only a moron would think we should “pull out of afghanistan”...we CAN”T NOW! Can you say Pakistan????
where do you think al Quida is?

and your comments about Kristol belong on the Daily Kos.!

why don’t you just join cindy sheehan with your attitudes?


40 posted on 07/02/2010 1:43:17 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: DallasDeb

Bingo. Fight to win or pull out.


41 posted on 07/02/2010 1:44:39 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: NormsRevenge

Last Straw Alert!


42 posted on 07/02/2010 1:47:03 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: Psalm 144

Steele is right. Obama’s nation building war is a hopeless quagmire and only undermines national defense. Bring the troops home and end Obama’s War!


43 posted on 07/02/2010 1:50:13 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Psalm 144

Why is it that politics attracts the lowest and dumbest quadrant of society??

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“For the idle, narcissistic egotist, what other path offers so much opportunity to showboat, abuse people, and live well and securely?

Dillinger robbed banks because he just wanted the money. If he had other character defects he might have run for office. “

Post of the Day!!


44 posted on 07/02/2010 1:50:50 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: NormsRevenge

The Rats are looking like crap right now and the Republicans continue to screw up so bad it’s almost like it’s intentional.


45 posted on 07/02/2010 1:51:05 PM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: SaraJohnson

Really happy to see there is independent thinking here still. Great points in your response...and I agree. There is no “winning”. We should simply leave with the message that if it happens again we will come back and bomb them until even the rocks have been turned to dust. Then leave again for them to wallow in the dust, leaving them again the same message. “Happens again, we will bomb you again.”

Go back to retaliation, not pre-emption and not nation building, culture changing, etc. Just the hard fist, which is all those rock heads will ever understand.


46 posted on 07/02/2010 1:57:28 PM PDT by reardensteel
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Uh oh! We have politically incorrect thinking going on in here???? LOL!

Measure the war in light of the current circumstances, not in yesterday’s terms. I know it is hard for some people to take in new information and realities, but it is something adults have to do in life. Espeically if they want to govern.

You are wrong. Bush was in Afghanistan, but he was not in it like he was in Iraq. FACT: Obama esclated the Afghan war. You don’t think the McCrystal wanted Bush to send the additional troops? They just all of a sudden made that up when the Kenyan entered office? Why did not Bush do that? Maybe he did not see it as a head on confrontation in tatics????? McCrystal turned out to be a real winner.

Facts are facts - get used to it. Dear Reader esclated the war and set terms of engagement that endanger our troops and protect our enemies - VIET NAM ALL OVER AGAIN! He’s putting the troops in there but he loves the enemy more than he is committed to winning the war. Just like the Marxists did with the Reds during the Cold War.

I think you are ignorant in what you said - so we’s even.:)


47 posted on 07/02/2010 1:57:47 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SoCalPol

I bet you do know about illegals. ;)


48 posted on 07/02/2010 1:58:46 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: reardensteel

Yep. Some people have a real hard time moving their minds along with the changing scenery of situations. They think it makes them wrong to begin with if they change their minds with unfolding circumstances. They would do anything not to be wrong.

But they are not wrong...the circumstances changed and adults are supposed to be able analyze current reality and change stragegy when indicated.


49 posted on 07/02/2010 2:02:47 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: reardensteel

We should simply leave with the message that if it happens again we will come back and bomb them until even the rocks have been turned to dust.

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IMO, there were three leaders who had a proper appreciation of Islam, and dealt with it as it should be. In ascending order of skill, diligence and effect:

Charles Martel

Vlad Tepes

Genghis Khan


50 posted on 07/02/2010 2:03:40 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (The Democrats' mascot is a jackass. This is because they are asses who are in it for the jack.)
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