Posted on 07/06/2010 9:08:49 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
Our Heavenly Father can do only those things which the intelligences under Him are voluntarily willing to support Him in accomplishing” (pp.355-356).
This is huge! Yes, blasphemous too and this is the man and philosophy that Beck idolizes? It's worse than what I thought.
Thanks for posting #94, it's eye opening about Beck. I never cared much for weepy Glen anyway but anyone who believes this tripe, I'm not interested in watching. It makes any thing he has to say suspect.
It is worse than many people believe. If you listen to him, watch for key phrases, like “heavenly Father” and references to our “progression”.
Doesn’t mean that he trusts Beck to teach Religion. And if he does then he needs educating as well.
Well as we all know the gods of Mormonism are all only human...
Oh, my gosh that is to funny!!!!!!
Only if Beck molests his 12 year old neighbor and is excommunicated like Lee was.
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There is some reasonable debate that those charges were trumped up by LDS inc. Lee was in trouble for complaining about the Indian Placement Program.
Hey, Remember Paul H. Dunn? He was another fun GA.
And I don’t think Glenn will ever make GA, Romney probably, but Beck, nah.
Does Beck have an original idea in his head?
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Apparently not.
yep. to the lds it is all about ‘the Church’. How often do we see them put ‘the Church’ before Christ in their canned tesimonkeys?
I wonder when he sleeps!
“You hate cake! You must be against chocolate!”
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How did you know?! LOL.
I wonder when he sleeps!
LOL. Tell us how you REALLY feel. That tirade was funny, even more words and still nothing to say.
If you aren’t LDS, why are you so apparently defensive of them? Got a Mitt-fetish?
I am also a historian, and I am not sure, based upon what I have seen that I trust Beck to check his sources. He has made major screw ups on things that are easily researched. A good historian doesn’t do that.
Shalom, kemosabe!
I will remember that. LOL.
MrR was the editor for most of my friends and colleagues in grad school. He is a real ‘grammar nazi’.
Here's more info.
The Utah prosecutor filed first degree felony charges on George P. Lee. The sexually abused girl told police that Elder Lee had fondled her while she visited Lee's daughter at Lee's West Jordan, Utah home and during official LDS conference trips to Arizona, Canada, and Lake Powell when he was Quorum of the Seventy General Authority, from the time she was 9 years old until she was 12 years old. Excommunicated Elder George P. Lee was Principal of the Tuba City High School in Arizona when he was charged with the sexual molestation. According to David Sanders, Lee's attorney, George Lee “was a good friend to the family for years and assisted them financially.” The girl testified that she knew he was a “a religious leader” and considered “Brother Lee” a family friend and important man in the Mormon Church, of which she is a member. Prosecutors had filed the charge as a first-degree felony because George had occupied a position of special trust to the victim as a religious leader and because the incidents were said to have occurred more than five times.”
Beginning in 1986 when she was nine, she says, she accompanied Lee's family to Lake Powell. In the motel, Lee lay down on the bed between his daughter and the abused girl and began “’telling us stories and scratching our backs.”’ Then he “’put his hand inside my panties, on my buttocks,” the abused girl testified. After that incident, Lee “called her into the bathroom. ‘He told me that I shouldn't tell anyone because the Lord had told him to do it and it should just remain between the Lord and him and me. I thought it was what I was supposed to do.”’ She sometimes gave excuses to avoid visiting the Lee home and tried to stay with Lee's daughter when she was there because she “felt safer.” The girl also accompanied Lee and his daughter on church assignments outside Utah where he also fondled her.
At some unspecified point, the girl's family moved to Phoenix. Then during the summer of 1989, Lee came to her home while he was on a church assignment and offered to take her and a brother back to Utah for a month-long vacation with his family. The month in question is not reported in the newspaper accounts; but since the girl accompanied Lee and his daughter to a conference assignment, at least part of it must have been in either June or August, since General Authorities are on vacation during the month of July. In either case, Lee was within weeks, and possibly within days, of excommunication.
During that trip, she went camping with the Lee family. Lee disappeared for a day and a night, then returned and brought her, her brother, and two of his children back to their West Jordan home. That night, he called the girl into his bedroom and had her sit on his bed. He told her that he had hiked to the top of a nearby mountain where he spoke “to the Lord and he told the Lord he'd fallen in love with me ... I was confused and taken aback about him speaking to the Lord and the Lord saying it was OK.” Lee then began talking to her “about polygamy. “He said that it was going to be brought back to the Earth and we'd be asked to live it.” She left the bedroom and went downstairs to the bedroom she was sharing with Lee's daughter. Unable to sleep, she returned later to Lee's bedroom, woke him up, and said, “I don't want my father to have to take another wife.” He said, “You don't have to worry about it. He won't have to.” Lee then told her to lie beside him and caressed her breasts. Frightened, she left the room and returned to her bed, where she fell asleep. Still later that night, Lee woke her up and said “he was sorry he'd ever started touching me and that he'd never do it again.”
However, “almost every day” for the month, he continued the fondling: in her friend's bedroom, in the family room, in the pool at the Deseret Gym, on a Heber Creeper train ride, and in hotels when they traveled to Canada. She testified later that there were “more than 20 touching incidents” that month.
Once as Lee wrestled with his daughter and Karen, he playfully held a pillow over his daughter's face with one hand, kissed Karen's neck, and put his hand down her pants.
However, after that month-long visit, the abuse ended. On 1 September 1989, Lee was excommunicated and did not see sexually abused girl again. He disappeared for 4 months in the Southwest. “I isolated myself like Moses did. ... I had a real nice time going one-on-one with God,” he explained in an interview when he returned in early 1990. He found a job as principal of Tuba City High School in Arizona, while his wife and children remained in West Jordan.
In 1990, he became the running mate of former Navajo tribal chair Peter MacDonald. After a scandal forced MacDonald to drop out, Lee launched a write-in campaign that drew 11,000 votes and placed him third in the election. His success encouraged him to plan a 1993 campaign for tribal presidency.
Then in November 1992, the abused girl dreamed Lee was chasing her through a forest. “I was getting scareder and scareder. He was getting closer and closer,” she described it. The next morning, she told her parents. They reported the abuse to the Utah Department of Family Services. According to Sheriffs Deputy Rod Norton, “The FBI and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints assisted with the investigation” and the sheriffs report was filed in January 1993. Actual charges against Lee were not filed until Thursday, 29 July 1993. He was charged in Third Circuit Court with aggravated sexual abuse of a child, a first-degree felony that carries a sentence of five years to life in prison.
When charges were filed on excommunicated Elder George P. Lee, George denied the charge. Lee, who was Principal of Tuba City High School in Arizona when the charges were filed, promptly “negotiated a deal with school officials to resign in exchange for six or seven months of pay,” and returned to Utah to surrender himself. Bail was set at $1,500, and he was released under orders to have contact with no one under eighteen and only supervised contact with his five children under eighteen. Because three other boys were staying with the family, he was required to find temporary living arrangements. Lee described himself as “confused by the charges” and claimed that he “was never alone with the girl.” According to Sanders “the girl fabricated the incidents” and “my client says he is absolutely innocent.”
Lee's wife Katherine stood beside him as he made his statement to the press and accompanied him to court with nine children. She expressed the family's support: “We love him very much. He's been my husband for almost 26 years now. He'd tell me if he'd done something wrong, and he says he's innocent.” She expressed concern about the expense of defending against the charges and worried that they might have to sell their home.
On Friday, 30 July, the Tuba City Unified School Board, which had renewed his contract for a year in June, “reneged” on their deal with Lee, according to Sanders, voting to dismiss him “for cause.” One unidentified board member commented, “He's been disappointing to a number of us,” but a prepared statement by the board stated: “The district has no knowledge considering the truth of the allegations against Dr. Lee or the facts of those allegations ... In addition, the district has no information which would lead it to believe that conduct similar to that alleged against Dr. Lee in Utah ever took place in Arizona.” In addition to being fired, Lee also lost his chance for the tribal presidency. Poised to announce his candidacy in August 1993, he lost in the primary election after criminal charges were filed.
After his first court appearance and processing for bail in early August 1993, Lee issued a statement that he was “innocent before God. ... This is my Garden of Gethsemane, and my people have gone through a lot of Gardens of Gethsemane. ... What I'm going through is really nothing new for my people. ... This is a trial in the valley for all of us, but the Great Spirit will help us.” He predicted that “what's happening to me may be a turning point for Indian people” and claimed, “This will trigger some great and powerful things. Get ready, get prepared spiritually and any other way. ... The Great Spirit is about to bless you with some great things. ... This also, I feel will set in motion a chain of events which will bring the anger and wrath of God against the Gentile nations. The perpetrators or those who are doing this to me and my Indian people will be dealt with and punished by God. ... They cannot get away with this. ... I will overcome this one for myself, for my family and for (the Indian people).”
On August 13, 1993, the Salt Lake Tribune reported that, “Former Mormon general authority George P. Lee said God will bring ‘calamities and judgments’ upon those who have accused him of child sex abuse ... Mr. Lee compared his plight with the persecution of Jesus Christ. ‘We all have peaks and valleys,’ he said. ‘This is my valley, my Garden of Gethsemane.’”
His attorney, who had recommended against speaking to the press, said “he did not know who his client was specifically referring to, but suggested: “He identifies himself often with a lot of problems Indian people have. Indian people oftentimes have been treated unfairly or accused falsely and have been persecuted like he is now, but not necessarily for this particular crime.”
Lee refused to explain the “wonderful events,” the “wrath of God against the Gentile nations” or whom he meant by “the perpetrators.” He also “declined to answer a question about whether sexual improprieties played a role in his excommunication.”
Katherine Lee, who was present with the children at the press conference, told reporters that Lee “loves children and has always taken them on trips. It's always a huge group. He's never one-on-one with any child.” She also balked at the allegation that her husband spoke with the girl about polygamy. She said that while he occasionally discussed polygamy as an aspect of Church history, he never espoused the practice. “I'm a one-man woman and that's the way it will be whether he likes it or not,” she quipped. ... “Any wife would be disturbed” at the allegations ... but said she is standing by him and knows he is innocent.
The immediate reaction of Lee's supporters was anger at the Church. According to Romero Brown, a political supporter from Window Rock, Arizona, the charge was “obviously a political plot by the LDS Church to discredit Mr. Lee.” He further claimed, “We were expecting something like this” because the Church was trying to “win back fallen members” who were part of Lee's “huge following.” According to Romero, the Church wanted “their tithing money.” He also alleged that “state and federal officials also are scheming against Mr. Lee because he supports Indian sovereignty.”
The preliminary hearing was held on 16 December 1993. The Salt Lake County attorney's office tried to have the hearing closed to press and public, but Third Circuit Court Judge Robin Reese denied the motion. Karen, the state's only witness, “wept several times” during her testimony. She told police that Lee had touched her breasts, buttocks, and genitals that night in his bed but, on cross-examination, told the defense attorney, Ron Yengich, that she was “sure” only that he had touched her breasts. Lee was bound over for trial.
In May 1994, he asked that Kenneth Rigtrup, the LDS judge of Third District Court scheduled to hear the case, disqualify himself and that no other LDS judge be appointed. “Lee said he has reason to believe he could not receive a fair and impartial trial because of potential bias and prejudice. “I am a former member of the Council of the Seventy, was excommunicated, and since that time I have made statements derogatory to the Church,” Lee wrote. Rigtrup had offered to have the case assigned to another judge in January “to avoid any potential claims of prejudice,” but Lee did not accept the offer. Prosecutor James Cope said “the motion appears only to be an attempt to delay his scheduled trial.”
When the case came to trial on 11 October 1994, Lee, now 51 years old, in a surprise move, pleaded guilty to attempted sexual abuse of a child, a third-degree felony. The 17 year old sexually abused now teenage girl, who was in court with her parents, prepared to testify, wept with relief as he looked directly at her, admitted “to touching the girl's breasts for sexual gratification,” and told the judge, “I want to say, your honor, that I'm very sorry. I'm sorry for whatever difficult times that I've put them through. None of this will ever happen again.” Judge Kenneth Rigtrup placed Lee on 18 months probation, and ordered him to pay a $1,850 fine, complete sex-offender counseling, write a letter of apology to the sexually abused teenager, and pay the costs of her counseling. George P. Lee was scheduled to remain on The Official State of Utah Sex Offender Registry as a sex offender until November 2011.
On October 12, 1994, the Salt Lake Tribune reported the following:
“A year ago, former Mormon general authority George P. Lee proclaimed he was ‘innocent before God’ of sexually molesting a 12-year-old neighbor girl. But Tuesday before a 3rd District judge, Lee humbly hung his head and admitted to touching the girl's breast for sexual gratification ... Lee, 51, pleaded guilty to attempted sexual abuse of a child, a third-degree felony ... Lee admitted only to fondling the girl's breasts. But the victim, now 17 years old, said Lee fondled her breats, buttocks and genitals for three years, beginning in 1986 when she was 9 years old ... The last time Lee abused her was after a camping trip in June 1989 at Lee's home.”
Assistant Salt Lake County Attorney Greg Skordas told the press: “The victim never wanted him to go to jail. She wanted him to get help, and she wanted someone to believe her.” Prosecutors felt positive about accepting the plea bargain because they were not sure of a conviction. It was abused girl's word against Lee's, “ not a slam-dunk case,” as Skordas put it. His boss, Salt Lake County Attorney David Yocom added that Lee was still considered “a pillar of the community. ... There is a tendency to believe someone like Lee, and that makes the state's burden more difficult.”
Lee wanted to serve his probation in Arizona but would have to get permission to do so from his Utah probation officer. Lee and his attorney refused to comment, but Yengich in a news release said “Lee continued to enjoy the support of family and friends.”
On July 27, 2007, George was arrested in Washington County, Utah for failing to register as a sex offender in the state of Utah. The police reported that George had not registered since 2001 and that he had been “living in an area with several young children in close proximity”. George P. Lee was booked into the Purgatory Correctional Facility in Hurricane, Utah on $5,000 bail. The case had dragged on for many months due to George's health issues. On March 19, 2008, the case was formally dropped due to these issues and that George had registered with the sex offender registry.
Wow, you even brushed your cat?! You were busy.
And drats, i forgot it was Tuesday again. I missed Heart of the Matter. hmph.
And I have personal knowledge of thethe case and people who state and believe that the charges were trumped up and he plead guilty to a lesser charge because he was told it would ‘go away’ and he wouldn’t do jail time. It happens.
Iscariots fall for a variety of reasons.
It would be better had Lee a millstone hung round his neck.
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