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Troops get 'don't ask, don't tell' surveys (in the mail)
UPI.com ^ | July 8, 2010

Posted on 07/08/2010 4:58:02 AM PDT by xzins

WASHINGTON, July 8 (UPI) -- A survey seeking U.S. troops' views on the impact of ending a policy barring homosexuals from openly serving in the military is being sent, the Pentagon said.

The more than 100-question survey was being sent to 200,000 active-duty troops and 200,000 members of reserve forces, CNN reported Thursday.

Among other things, the survey asks about issues such as how morale or readiness may be affected if a commander is thought to be gay or lesbian, the need to maintain personal conduct standards and how a repeal may affect one's willingness to serve in the military.

The survey also asks questions designed to identify problems that may arise when troops live and work closely in overseas war zones and about reactions to dealing with same-sex partners in social situations.

Pentagon officials also discussed the repeal in private meetings with troops. Results aren't expected until the end of the year, officials said.

The Pentagon established a team to conduct the survey earlier this year to determine the impact of the repeal. President Barack Obama, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Adm. Michael Mullen back a repeal of the current policy.

A senior military official with knowledge of the process told CNN the Defense Department said it needs until the end of 2010 to figure out how to implement a repeal of "don't ask, don't tell" because of housing, medical and marriage benefits, and the issue of reinstating gay soldiers discharged under the policy.

The House of Representatives in May approved a plan that would repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" policy after the military's internal review is finished, and Obama, Gates, and Mullen sign off on the policy change. The Senate did not pass the measure.


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To: napscoordinator

Dick Danzig. “Commander Massa”. Lohrenz v. Donnelly, and all the nonsense that surrounded that debacle in qualifying women pilots. Frankly, it comes as no surprise to me that when they finally found a 4 star to support homosexualizing the military, it was an admiral. Just my opinion though. Good luck managing the gals aboard subs.


41 posted on 07/08/2010 1:44:00 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: napscoordinator

By the way, my intent is not to criticize the Navy. Google Danzig, Navy and Culture and you’ll see that Dick Danzig explicitly set out to crack a culture in the Navy. He did it; I don’t think the a guy like Jeremiah Denton or Bull Halsey could ever make 4 stars now. If you’re in the Navy btw, you’re no doubt fully aquainted with the affirmative action program at Annapolis.


42 posted on 07/08/2010 1:47:15 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Whether 0thugga manages to shove this on the military or not, I do think the malignant leftist infestation will not last. I think the illness is chronic, now becoming acute, but will not be fatal.

I think the patient is going to fight back, rally, and recuperate.


43 posted on 07/08/2010 1:51:33 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

Homosexual activists have have been working hard over the past decade to put a good face on their lifestyles (well, not so good, considering some of the images from their “pride” parades) in order to win over the public, or at least make them apathetic. This image they are creating is just a thin veneer, however - the stark facts are very disturbing, and the homophiles are vicious in shouting down anyone who voices these hard facts to discredit them. We can’t be silent, or the homo-activists will be sucessful in completely inflitrating every scientific institution to push their agenda, in spite of science.


44 posted on 07/08/2010 1:53:37 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: ICE-FLYER

I believe it’s your latter option. There isn’t anything “there”. I checked it out when they first started it. Couldn’t see anything. Then I started getting paranoid thinking now they have my IP address, know where I work, and know who I am and such....lol


45 posted on 07/08/2010 1:57:08 PM PDT by Getsmart64
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To: lentulusgracchus

When I served on a grand jury some years ago for about 3 months, the two most serious cases involved homosexuals.

My studies in Ayurveda and also some Taoist books state clearly that same sex acts create serious mental and emotional problems of violence, aggression and psychosis.


46 posted on 07/08/2010 1:58:27 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: fwdude

Note my coment just above.

The longer they live the “gay” life, the more insane and vicious they get.


47 posted on 07/08/2010 1:59:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
My studies in Ayurveda and also some Taoist books state clearly that same sex acts create serious mental and emotional problems of violence, aggression and psychosis.

Funny, I never heard that before .... guess Hollywood doesn't like everything they've heard about Taoism.

48 posted on 07/08/2010 3:06:45 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

I actually don’t study Taoism, but my DH has some various kinds of books since he intermittently practices Tai Chi and Chi Kung which are I guess sort of Taoist.

Yes, the author was quite emphatic about it. And Ayurveda which is my particular field of study (or one of them) is also quite absolutist. In fact the teaching is that oral sex, anal sex and masturbation are all very unhealthy and create mental and emotional problems, what to speak of same sex activity!


49 posted on 07/08/2010 3:23:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: MSF BU

I agree with the very top being liberal, but I do believe the Sailors tend to be conservative. It does surprise me that some of the changes happening in the Navy. I was stationed in Annapolis in late 90’s and they had AA program then. It is the only way to have a diversity at the Academy. The colleges are trying to get the African Americans and Hispanics so the Academy has to compete with that.


50 posted on 07/08/2010 8:37:27 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

It’s a shame and it is true, although I don’t think that West Point has the problem to the same degree. Personally, I think it hurts the qualified minority because they get to a unit (being Division or Fleet) and the troops tend to think “quota”. My dealings with the folks at Little Creek left me with the impression that the sailors were conservative but within an increasingly PC organization. I know a number of good guys who either got out early or as soon as they could retire because of it. The Army had it’s own problems there; as far as I am concerned Forts Story/Eustis/Lee were glorified homes for unwed mothers. At Fort Story, they had one 1995 AIT class where 11/11 female trainees were pregnant when they graduated...is that defense or welfare?


51 posted on 07/09/2010 3:52:01 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: little jeremiah

Same-Sex Violence

Domestic violence occurs within same-sex relationships as it does in heterosexual relationships. The acronym LGBT is often used and stands for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender.

11% of lesbians reported violence by their female partner and 15% of gay men who had lived with a male partner reported being victimized by a male partner.
Patricia Tjaden, Symposium on Integrating Responses to Domestic Violence: Extent and Nature of Intimate Partner Violence as measured by the National Violence Against Women Survey, 47 Loy. L. Rev. 41, 54 (2003).

Of the LGBT victims who sought services from the New York City Gay and Lesbian Anti-Violence Project, 36% of clients in 2003 and 38% of clients in 2004 filed police reports regarding intimate partner violence.
Diane Dolan-Soto & Sara Kaplan, New York Lesbian, Gay, Transgender and Bisexual Domestic Violence Report, at 6 (2005), available at http://www.avp.org/publications/reports/2005nycdvrpt.pdf.

Eighty-eight percent of victims in 2003 and 91 percent of victims in 2004 reported experiencing prior incidents of abuse, with the majority (45 percent and 47 percent, respectively) reporting having experienced more than 10 prior incidents.
Diane Dolan-Soto & Sara Kaplan, New York Lesbian, Gay, Transgender and Bisexual Domestic Violence Report, at 5 (2005), available at http://www.avp.org/publications/reports/2005nycdvrpt.pdf.

One survey found that same-sex cohabitants reported significantly more intimate partner violence than did opposite-sex cohabitants. Among women, 39.2% of the same-sex cohabitants and 21.7 of the opposite- sex cohabitants reported being raped, physically assaulted, and/or stalked by a marital/cohabiting partner at some time in their lifetime.
Patricia Tjaden & Nancy Thoennes, U.S. Dep’t of Just., NCJ 181867, Extent, Nature, and Consequences of Intimate Partner Violence: Findings from the National Violence Against Women Survey, at 30 (2000), available at www.ojp.usdoj.gov/nij/pubs-sum/181867.htm

15.4% of same-sex cohabiting men reported being raped, physically assaulted and/or stalked by a male partner, but 10.8% reported such violence by a female partner.
Patricia Tjaden & Nancy Thoennes, U.S. Dep’t of Just., NCJ 181867, Extent, Nature, and Consequences of Intimate Partner Violence: Findings from the National Violence Against Women Survey, at 30 (2000), available at www.ojp.usdoj.gov/nij/pubs-sum/181867.htm

According to the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs:
6,523 incidence of lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender violence were recorded in eleven distinct cities and regions across the USA and Toronto, Ontario. 44% of the victims were men and 36% were women. This represented a 13% increase over the 5718 cases reported in 2002 by the same agencies and includes six reported deaths in the context of actual or suspected LGBT violence. Arizona reported one death and New York City reported five deaths.

4,964 or about 79% of the new incidents were reported in Los Angeles. The number of LGBT incidents in other cities and states include Boston (290), New York City (501), San Francisco (388), Colorado (139) , Chicago (65), Columbus, Ohio (46) , Pennsylvania (19) , Burlington, Vermont (21), Tuscon (64).

5,374 (82%) of the victims of domestic violence reported to the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs identified themselves as gay; 575 (9%) were cases in which the victim declined to specify a sexual orientation or it was not recorded; 263 (4%) identified as bisexual; and 44 (0.6 %) were not sure or questioned their sexual orientation.
Of the 42% incidence of domestic violence where race was recorded, 1,211 or 44% were white, 684 or 25% were Latino, 413 or 15% were of African descent, 153 or 5% were Asian/Pacific Islander, 125 or 4% were multicultural; just under 36 or 0.01% were indigenous/first people and about 0.01 were Arab/Middle Easterners, Jewish and others.

Nat’l Advoc. for Local Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Communities, Nat’l Coal. of Anti-Violence Programs, Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Domestic Violence: 2003 Supplement - An Update from the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs (2004), at 3-8, 10, available at http://www.avp.org/publications/reports/reports.htm


52 posted on 07/09/2010 7:07:11 AM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: massmike; xzins; lentulusgracchus

Thank you, massmike!!

FYI, xzins and lentuludgracchus. Massmike is the guy with the facts!


53 posted on 07/09/2010 8:57:29 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: xzins

Estimates of the proportion of men who engaged in same-sex behavior differed by recall period: past year = 2.6% (95%CI, 2.2-2.9); past five years = 4.0% (2.8-5.3); ever = 7.0% (4.7-9.2). Based upon the five-year recall period, we calculated an HIV diagnosis rate of 692/100,000 and a syphilis rate of 121/100,000 for MSM in 2007. For HIV and syphilis, respectively, the rate was 60 and 61 times the rate for other men and 54 and 93 times greater than the rate for women.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/resources/research/msm.htm

AIDS has been diagnosed for more than half a million MSM. Over 300,000 MSM with AIDS have died since the beginning of the epidemic.

MSM made up more than two thirds (68%) of all men living with HIV in 2005, even though only about 5% to 7% of men in the United States reported having sex with other men.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm


54 posted on 07/09/2010 10:50:47 AM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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