Posted on 07/11/2010 7:35:09 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
Used to work next to a Range Rover dealership. It always amazed me how many vehicles they towed in everyday for repairs. They must break down a lot.
The parts are sometimes more than German cars.
It's possible they get stuck because the drivers are too confident of the RRs abilities and attempt obstacles they shouldn't.
Overall, however, they're great and comfortable which is important if you're travelling deep into brush or on long haul trips.
All that being said, I have no idea why anyone in LA would need one.
I don’t see many of these in the SE. If they went out of business nobody would notice.
The basic, no frills, jeep is really the best off road 4WD. Good clearance, short wheel base and good hp to weight ratio.
They look nice though.
I have a 2006 Range Rover, before that a 2001 Land Rover. Going back further a Toyota 4 Runner, and earlier two Cherokee Jeep Limiteds. The best looking of the lot is the Range Rover. It gets about 18 mpg, it's predecessor the Land Rover, 12-14 mpg. We purchased all of our 4 wheel drive vehicles new and aside for a recall repair, from time to time, nothing unusual in terms of costly unexpected repairs. Now that our Range Rover is out of warranty we take it to a reliable repair facility that uses only authentic Range Rover/Land Rover parts. In fact the owner of the garage owns a Range Rover. Not burdened with the high overhead of a dealership the cost saving is approximately a third less. Most of the savings in shop labor.
As an aside, my wife and I were on safari in Botswana a few years ago, all the game camps utilize Land Rover. Saw one Toyota Land Cruiser that wasn't used all that much, because it was too heavy. It was used in the summer months when the ground was baked hard.
I was in England about 20 years ago, and Rovers were used as workhorses everywhere in the countryside. They were more like Army jeeps, and they weren’t pretty - only one color combo: tan and blue.
Are the gentrified ones currently sold in the U.S. just sporting the name? The dealers here are located in affluent burbs. I don’t see the farmers using them.
never owned a cj...driven a bunch of them...I like the pre-AMC CJs
I like the new 4 door CJs they came out with in the past few years.....
the vehicles I show are the ones I either have had, or wouldnt mind having. right now I drive a first generation 318 Durango with close to 200,000 miles, before they got butt ugly and sissified looking.
“The older Land Rovers are basically agricultural vehicles.”
....that’s true, as were the post WWII Jeeps...basically, a rugged reliable tool for the countryside...the early civilian Jeeps even had a PTO take off shaft like a tractor...with it you could run a fair sized generator...you can’t wear those old models out...remember how Reagan loved his old Jeep at his ranch?...same with Queen Elizabeth...you see her photographed rambling around her Scottish estate in an old Range rover...she refuses to get a new one.
Though I’ve never had a Range Rover, I do have a 2001 Discovery II that’s now got over 200,000 miles on it. I don’t use it for off-roading; never had any intention to. I did intend for it to get me around on snowy and icy, hilly roads and it’s done a good job at that. It’s a great driving machine, too. It can be an expensive machine to repair if you have the dealer do it; if you buy your own part and get a non-dealer mechanic to put it on, it’s not much more expensive than any other vehicle. It is true that the gas mileage is poor; they are very heavy machines.
When my 2001 dies, I’ll likely get another Rover. It’s the most enjoyable of any vehicle I’ve ever had.
As a Range Rover approaches 100K miles you can expect the following to occur: failed water pump, leaking power steering pump, worn out suspension bushings (this is normal, however, due to the deliberate design of the bushings), brake caliper pistons seeping fluid, restricted flow in the radiator due to scale development, malfunctioning power door locks, and a whole host of minor electrical problems. If the vehicle was operated in a state where salt was used on the roads, or in a humid, salty environment (Florida, etc.), you can expect the rear frame crossmember and tailgate to have a potentially severe rust problem. Some of these things you can fix, others, like the two pumps and the bushings, you can only replace. If you are prepared to do the work yourself, the cost is reasonable other than your time. If you are going to have these things done at a dealership, the cost will be many thousands of dollars ($800 for radiator replacement, $800-$1000 for new (read rebuilt) front brake calipers, $600 for a “tuneup” assuming they find nothing wrong, and so on.
Very few independent mechanics know how to work on a Range Rover. It’s not that they’re rocket science, but they are different enough and require enough specialized tools that most independents won’t touch them. The factory service manual is excellent, however, and is a requirement if you are contemplating buying a Range Rover (the manuals, like everything else, are expensive, $100+).
The Rover V-8 is extremely picky about having the correct anti-freeze solution in it and having regular oil and filter changes every 3K miles or so. The need for the oil changes stems from the hydraulic lifters in the valve train. They clog at the slightest excuse and stick, which results in rapid wear to the camshaft if the problem isn’t corrected. Dirty oil is a prime cause of sticky lifters, either through dirt or through the formation of varnish. A Rover V-8 with a ticking valve is headed for a very expensive repair if the problem can’t be corrected through chemotherapy. One of the most effective cures is to add a quart of automatic transmisson fluid to the oil and run it until the next oil change. If this doesn’t cure the sticking lifter, nothing will except replacement of the lifters, a multi-thousand dollar job.
DO NOT buy a Range Rover County LWB (the stretched classic Range Rover sold in the US from 1993 to 1995 or so). The 4.2 engine has a major design flaw, and the first-generation air suspension is what Land Rover used to learn how to make an air suspension properly, which they introduced on the new model which came out in 1995. The best years (in the US) for the coil sprung Range Rover were 1991 and 1992, in my opinion.
The aluminum bodywork is very soft, dents easily, and is VERY expensive to repair. In fact, it’s probably cheaper to buy a new body panel and replace the damaged one altogether, assuming you know how to do this and have access to a paint shop that knows how to prime and paint aluminum.
The Rover V-8 MUST use premium fuel. At 14mpg around town and 17-19 mpg on the highway, this gets real expensive real fast given the direction fuel prices are going these days.
http://www.fixya.com/cars/t595794-range_rover_vs_jeep_grand_cherokee
- JP
“DO NOT buy a Range Rover County LWB ....”
LOL. That is probably THE most popular model of the RRC. The 4.2L, taken care of like ALL OTHER ENGINES, will go 200K+ miles. You can keep the new Grand Cherokee, a plastic unibody POS. The old J10/J20/Cherokee was the last of the breed. The Classic/DI/DII engine is the Buick engine, flat tappet design. It can go many miles if the owner understands the technical heritage.
Why the lower MPG? Because they are full frame vehicles, unlike your typical SUV, and weigh in at 4500+ lbs. They are also solid axle vehicles, superior to the independent suspension city mall-crawler SUVs.
I ran Scouts for years. The only realistic replacement was the Rover. The Land Rover / RRC is basically a luxury International Scout.
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