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Mel Gibson's mainstream Hollywood career is over -- for real, this time
L.A Times ^ | July 9th, 2010

Posted on 07/11/2010 3:59:49 PM PDT by TaraP

It's interesting to try to divine the chicken-and-egg of Mel Gibson's firing by WME last week: Was it his (first-alleged, now aurally proved) misogynistic and racist comments that enabled the agency to part ways with him, or was it the death of longtime agent Ed Limato that did the trick?

Earlier today the news surfaced that William Morris Endeavor had split with Gibson last week-- as Limato lay seriously ill, and just several days after Radar Online broke the news that Gibson had verbally abused his girlfriend Oksana Grigorieva by using the N-word. (The reports were just that until today, when audio of the Gibson incident was released on Radar.)

There's of course a third variable in all this -- the fact that Gibson just wasn't much of a bankable star anymore anyway.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hollywood; melgibson
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To: Abin Sur; Eaker
I'll admit that the thread is getting a bit, er, tiresome at this point.

Apparently you know when to leave too. Toodles.

261 posted on 07/11/2010 8:05:17 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Eaker
Not when I see it as an obvious ploy. If Obama says that it is a nice day I will disagree with his racist liberal ass just like this troll because it is a ploy not an honest assessment.

I couldn't disagree more; if you refuse to acknowledge a valid point, your opponent can use that against you. It weakens your argument.

262 posted on 07/11/2010 8:06:43 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: TaraP

Some animals (stars) are more equal than others.

Hollywood seems to be populated by mindless sheep who do what the ‘bosses’ say. And they make a lot of noise with their bleating. They know if they don’t they are instantly unemployable. It’s a mob town in every sense of the word.


263 posted on 07/11/2010 8:08:49 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Abin Sur
It's not like anyone is persuading anyone else of the error of their ways...

What's Mel Gibson's error?

Who has suffered material harm from his speech?

264 posted on 07/11/2010 8:08:53 PM PDT by primeval patriot
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To: Abin Sur; DJ MacWoW
You're AlGore?

No that's just mean. I thought there were rules about that sort of thing.

Wait a minute! Are you saying you didn't invent the internet? This is confusing; lemme grab my beeber so I can figgur this out!

265 posted on 07/11/2010 8:10:00 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: Abin Sur; Eaker
if you refuse to acknowledge a valid point, your opponent can use that against you. It weakens your argument.

It doesn't matter. We do NOT debate liberals on this forum. It is NOT what this forum is meant to be.

266 posted on 07/11/2010 8:12:32 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Grizzled Bear; Abin Sur
This is confusing; lemme grab my beeber so I can figgur this out!

Your Beeber won't work as the messages have been too garbled and stuned by clueless newbie syndrome. Real or imagined.

267 posted on 07/11/2010 8:17:51 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Abin Sur; Eaker

This might help...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1103363/posts


268 posted on 07/11/2010 8:18:31 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: primeval patriot
From this remark I have to wonder if you're a U.S. citizen.

It's a cultural thing for Southerners to sometimes address Northerners as "damned Yankees". It's not necessarily polite, often said in jest, but not crime.

One disturbing discovery on my visits to the U.K. and Ireland was an undercurrent of ignorance and media incited hatred towards white U.S. Southerners.

Are you from the Commonwealth perhaps?

Or just an incorrigible Yankee?

I'm certainly a US citizen! Mind you, I've never even been in the South, let alone known someone from there (at least closely). If someone were to use the term "damnyankee" in casual conversation, I wouldn't be offended in the slightest...although it would strike me as a bizarre anachronism, as if I'd just been called "Sirrah".

While I've certainly read the word in historic literature, the only place I've actually heard the term used is in movies or cartoons (although to be precise, Yosemite Sam calls Bugs a darnyankee in Southern Fried Rabbit).

269 posted on 07/11/2010 8:21:49 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: primeval patriot
What's Mel Gibson's error?

I wasn't speaking of Gibson, but rather posters on this thread.

270 posted on 07/11/2010 8:23:48 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Grizzled Bear

MurraysMom was unbelievable - you could make the most common-sense statement imaginable, and there in “New Posts” would be some bizarre response.

It wasn’t even worth replying.


271 posted on 07/11/2010 8:24:50 PM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: Yaelle

It’s defending his right to *Privacy* If I want to say the N-Word in my house all day long that is my buisness.

We have a right to *privacy*


272 posted on 07/11/2010 8:24:55 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: DJ MacWoW
We do NOT debate liberals on this forum. It is NOT what this forum is meant to be.

...but posters have been doing exactly that, on this very thread, with someone who has apparently been posting liberal opinions for years!

273 posted on 07/11/2010 8:26:56 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Abin Sur

TPTB have not zotted him yet. There are other trolls that have been left on here for toying purposes. But they get boring and then are banned. See post 252.


274 posted on 07/11/2010 8:29:29 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Altura Ct.

I’m a conservative and I’m not one of those “self righteous morons who promotes, solicit and buy all kinds of BS out of black artists.” In fact, most conservative don’t support the BS you described. But we know the difference between right and wrong, and you obviously could care less that Mel Gibson is a racist jerk.


275 posted on 07/11/2010 8:40:08 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: Abin Sur
I'm certainly a US citizen!

Ah ha! You're one of us then. Good.

Mind you, I've never even been in the South, let alone known someone from there (at least closely).

Then you shouldn't presume to educate Southerners on our customs.

If someone were to use the term "damnyankee" in casual conversation, I wouldn't be offended in the slightest...although it would strike me as a bizarre anachronism

Yet you brought it up as offensive if it were used in an online discussion of the Civil War.

I wasn't speaking of Gibson, but rather posters on this thread.

But the topic of the thread is Mel Gibson's alleged hate speech, is it not?

276 posted on 07/11/2010 8:50:02 PM PDT by primeval patriot
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To: primeval patriot
Then you shouldn't presume to educate Southerners on our customs.

I don't recall attempting to do so...

Yet you brought it up as offensive if it were used in an online discussion of the Civil War.

I have seen threads on FR in which the term is used in exactly that manner (as an insult). I was simply pointing out that I wouldn't be offended, regardless of the intent of the person using the term. If anything, I'd be amused.

I wasn't speaking of Gibson, but rather posters on this thread.

But the topic of the thread is Mel Gibson's alleged hate speech, is it not?

Regardless of how the thread started, in context I was not speaking of Gibson, but rather of the futility of trying to change someone else's mind in an online discussion. Gibson was entirely tangential to this point.

277 posted on 07/11/2010 9:02:43 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: trumandogz; TaraP; Eaker

//I was not aware that Gibson had a right to privacy when he told the police//

He was was not talking in private he was talking to the police so why did you bring it up?

Its obvious you are trolling these people, but your arguments are weak and your methods sloppy.


278 posted on 07/11/2010 9:03:01 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: trumandogz
[ So, you mean that there were no Christians in America prior to the Abolitionist Movement? ]

Actually not christians are christians..
even not all black people are black..
Barry Half-White has only a black sperm donor..
He was raised white by whites.. but became Pink...
and is neither black nor white..

279 posted on 07/11/2010 9:12:45 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: trumandogz

>> Even if what you say is true, does that excuse Mel’s actions?

You mean ‘words’, private words only heard in public because of recordings.

There’s good reason to condemn foul speech. There’s also good reason to ignore it, and not react like a bunch of petulant weasels unable to stomach strong, discriminatory language.

I’m not making any excuses for his sloppy, abusive mouth. His girlfriend should give him the space to mature if she hasn’t already.


280 posted on 07/11/2010 9:13:08 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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