Posted on 07/12/2010 7:15:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Lost amid the heated debate over U.S. policy is a key point: Immigrant entrepreneurs and skilled workers are a boon to the economy.
Arizona may be ground zero for the conflict over U.S. immigration policy, but it takes only a few minutes of watching cable television news and scanning local op-ed pages to see how raw and divisive the matter has become in the nation's political sphere.
Yet with all the heated rhetoric about illegals, border security, amnesty, racial profiling, and other incendiary topics, one aspect of immigration isn't emphasized enough: the job-creating potential of immigrant entrepreneurs. They're the vanguard in America's global competition for entrepreneurial talent and innovative ideas. The nation needs to encourage more entrepreneurs from other nations to call America home. Their energy is the elixir of future economic growth.
Take a recent study by the McKinsey Global Institute on U.S. multinational corporations. In Growth and competitiveness in the United States: The role of its multinational companies, the consulting firm notes that big business comprises less than 1 percent all U.S. companies, yet the 2,270 multinational corporations in its database accounted for 31 percent of the growth in inflation-adjusted gross domestic product from 1990 to 2007. Even more important, U.S. multinational corporations have contributed 41 percent of gains in labor productivity since 1990—and 53 percent of the productivity increases during expansions.
The consultants highlight the role immigrants play in bolstering the competitiveness of American multinationals, especially helping the U.S. "lead the world in the number of engineers, scientists, and business professionals who are ready to work in a multinational company."
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I read the link. Did you?
J category (mostly au pairs etc) is more than 350,000. They are temporary work permits, the au pairs leave the US in a year or so. This is totally non-issue to the debate here.
Misleading and fishy numbers do not really help our cause in restricting the uncontrolled immigration and illegal alien invasion. The situation is bad enough with honest numbers.
I don't think you read the article or perhaps you didn't comprehend it. First the J category visa contains more than just or "mostly au pairs." The number includes doctors, teachers, etc. That aside, let's take a look at the figures.
951,247 --That is the number of PERMANENT work permits given in the form of green cards to working-age immigrants over the 12-month period. Au pairs do not get green cards. These green cards are the most insidious aspect. Every year, our federal government hands out PERMANENT access to U.S. jobs to nearly a million foreign adults through our legal immigration system.
947,340-- That is the number of new TEMPORARY work permits given to foreign workers who were getting them for the FIRST time during the most recent reported 12 months.
1,898,587 -- That is the total number of separate foreign citizens who were either getting a new temporary work permit or getting a permanent green card. Our federal government had the choice to not bring in a single one of these competing workers. Instead, it gave out nearly 1.9 million new work permits to 1.9 million separate foreign workers.
1.5 million a year--This somewhat smaller number counts how many of the 1.9 million had not already been working in the United States. The U.S. Office of Immigration Statistics reports that 57.9% of adult green card recipients were already working in the U.S. The feds had the choice not to give them permanent access to U.S. jobs but did, to the detriment of U.S. workers. Nonetheless, most of them are not technically "new recipients of foreign-worker visas."
But about 100,000 to 250,000 of them were new recipients because they were working here illegally and had not previously had a work permit.
The CIS chart provides the summarized data. Notice that the total number of work authorizations totalled 1,443,265 to 1,593,605 with the variance due to illegals who changed status and received green cards within the US.
The end result is a range between 1,443,265 and 1,593,605 who were new foreign workers with the legal right to take a U.S. job. A nice round, medium number is 1.5 million which -- as the above stats and math show -- is a highly-sourced, credible approximation of the magnitude of damage the federal immigration programs are doing to unemployed Americans.
125,000 a month --1.5 million divided by 12 gives you 125,000 a month.
All of this is well sourced using USG numbers. I know Roy Beck (NumbersUSA) personally as well as the folks at CIS. I work with them often. The idea that these numbers are "fishy" is pure nonsense. Roy, Mark Krikorian, Steve Camarota, et. al. testify often before Congress. They are experts in the area of immigration and have been for more than 20 years.
The Left has gotten all exercised about Roy's numbers, but they can't deny them since the source in the USG.
And these numbers don't include the conservative estimate of 8 million illegals in our work force or the 500,000 a year who enter illegally.
Ping!
Let’s toss a little subterfuge into the discussion, shall we? Thanks, BusinessWeek.
Well, if it’s such a great thing for the US economy..then let’s just open the borders..let everyone in...
You merely copy-paste data from numbersusa. It is not proof of anything. It is a claim by an advocacy group.
The text in the gov website says J category is mostly au pairs, doctors, teachers, summer lifeguards and high school exhange students. J category people are not taking anybody’s job.
US brings in about 130,000 H1 visas annually (not per month), in addition to unskilled agriworkers etc. This thread was about legal skilled workers, e.g. mainly H1 people. Total number of all people given some sort of visa or green card may approach 125k per month (counts in family members of visa recipients, au pairs, exchange students, investors etc).
TOTAL BS. BS. BS.
They don’t speak English.
They don’t read English.
They don’t write English.
They don’t have an education level much above the US equivilant of 5th grade or so.
They cannot read road signs.
They cannot read instructions on chemicals.
They cannot function in an ENGLISH speaking society.
They don’t know how to use basic sanitary facilities- even the porta-potties out in the fields.
They are not employable in Mexico. They are the very lowest of the economic class THERE——don’t even try to tell me that would ‘start new businesses here’.
IF they are able to ‘start new businesses——LET THEM DO SO IN MEXICO !!!!!! Other than drug cartels, Mexico is stagnated with new businesses being non-existant.
AMERICAN CITIZENS are out of work !!!!
They do NOT need competition from illegals who will live 30 to a house & will work for $3 an hour & then send most of that money back to Mexico on Western Union.
This is beyond “pie in the sky’ rhetoric.
Eisenhower deported millions.
Truman deported millions.
Why can’t we?”
So did FDR.
What are we going to do with all the uneducated strawberry pickers who are pissing on my strawberries?”
And the FDA & the CDC wonder where the E-Coli outbreaks come from!!!
In Calif- TB is rising.
Also, in Calif- Whooping Cough is now considered an epidemic.
The people walking across the desert aren’t actors, athletes, politicians, or CEO’s.
They aren’t going to be living in gated communities or high-rises.
The people who see no problem with illegals AREN’T the ones who will be affected by them most.
The people who see no problem with illegals live in communities where there only contact with them will be smiling at them as they clean the pool or mow the lawn.
The people who see no problem with illegals can afford personal security details.
F## you and F## illegals....””””
AMEN !!!
The outstanding MURDER warrants in Los Angeles county are 80% ILLEGALS.
Yes, they are taking people's jobs. The J-1 Visa Program is for foreign medical graduates who wish to pursue graduate medical training in the United States. J-1 Physicians, also known as Foreign Medical Graduates or International Medical Graduates, are physicians from other countries who have sought and received a J-1 exchange visitor visa. The visa allows holders to remain in the U.S. until their studies are completed. At the completion of their studies they are expected to return to their home countries for two years before applying for a permanent visa in the United States. A J-1 Visa Waiver waives the two year home residency requirement and allows a physician to stay in the country to practice in a federally designated Health Professional Shortage Area (HPSA) or Medically Underserved Area (MUA) if sponsored by an interested U.S. government agency. State government agencies may also sponsor J-1 physician waiver requests which are called Conrad State 30 programs.
US brings in about 130,000 H1 visas annually (not per month), in addition to unskilled agriworkers etc. This thread was about legal skilled workers, e.g. mainly H1 people.
You seem to have difficulty understanding the table. Yes these are TEMPORARY WORK VISAS. People on H1B visas can work up to six years and then if sponsored by their company get a green card. Then they are no longer temporary.
The thread may extoll the virtue of bringing in skilled immigrants, but we don't have a merit based system of immigration. It is based on kinship. The vast majority of the 1.2 million legal immigrants to this country are poor and uneducated. They will cost us more in benefits than they contribute. Robert Rector estimated $20,000 per year per immigrant headed family.
Total number of all people given some sort of visa or green card may approach 125k per month (counts in family members of visa recipients, au pairs, exchange students, investors etc).
You seem to be missing the forest for the trees. The number that should get your attention is the 951,247 PERMANENT work permits given in the form of green cards to working-age immigrants over the 12-month period. Does it make sense to bring in this number of permanent workers every year despite the fact that 25 million Americans are looking for full time employment? Most of these people are unskilled and uneducated. 53% of immigrant headed households are on welfare. We are importing poverty and unemployment. Something very dramatic is happening is this country and most people fail to notice it. Our immigration policy bears no relevance to our interests and needs.
The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 80 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest it has been in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.
I’m all for reducing the number of illegals and low and average-skilled immigrants, but I’m all for temp au pairs (who work without salary) and foreign doctors to serve in remote Kentucky where there are not enough doctors (you don’t like this?). 350,000 people in J cat are mostly au pairs or (to less extent) doctors working in remote areas along with some high school exchange students. I’m totally fine with this 350k.
“People on H1B visas can work up to six years and then if sponsored by their company get a green card. Then they are no longer temporary”
Everything in this world is possible. Most H1B holders do not get green card (because company does not want to sponsor) or they are rejected by the Immigration. Many people, including H1B people, may apply for green card.
In anycase, this is 130,000 per year, not per month.
This thread was about skilled workers. They are H1 workers (130k), maybe intracompany transfer people (84k). The talent this country needs is among these people. Merit based system (such as automatic visas or green cards for all Standford MBAs or MIT PhDs) would be beneficial. Those with BSc degree from Bronx Community College can be sent home instead.
What does immigrant entrepreneurs have to do with wetbacks?
I’m all for a skill based immigration system. That’s not what we have for legal immigration, much less the non-high schooled invading us.
No I am not for it. The AMA has a stranglehold on the number of doctors graduating from our medical schools and the number of accredited schools. Foreign doctors take up about a quarter of the residencies. Most major hosptials in this country couldn't operate without them. We should be able to produce the number of doctors we need.
Everything in this world is possible. Most H1B holders do not get green card (because company does not want to sponsor) or they are rejected by the Immigration. Many people, including H1B people, may apply for green card.
That simply isn't true. Do you have a source for that assertion?
This thread was about skilled workers. They are H1 workers (130k), maybe intracompany transfer people (84k). The talent this country needs is among these people. Merit based system (such as automatic visas or green cards for all Standford MBAs or MIT PhDs) would be beneficial. Those with BSc degree from Bronx Community College can be sent home instead.
H1B visas are for temporary workers. The current annual ceiling is 65,000. If we want to have more skilled and educated immigrants we must change our immigration policies. We should adopt a merit based system to attract permanent immigrants with the skills we need to compete in the global economy. Instead, we have a kinship system that imports poverty and acts as a drain on this country. Milton Friedman said, “You cannot simultaneously have free immigration and a welfare state.” We have both.
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