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Tanzanian newspaper reports that Obama has “origins from East Africa” OBAMA “ROOTS OUTSIDE COUNTRY”
Post Email ^ | July 13.,2010 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 07/13/2010 4:40:18 PM PDT by opentalk

An online newspaper based in Tanzania is reporting that “Barack Abdallah Husein Obama,” the “first black US president,” was born outside of the United States.

Written in broken English, the article notes that the President of the United States has historically been required to be born on U.S. soil but that “This might have been the result of racism or belief that a person other than ‘original’ US citizen was capable of effectively leading the powerful nation and help it to maintain its values.”

The writers go on to say that “We witnessed last year a senator with his origins from east Africa, Barack Abdallah Husein Obama, becoming the first black US president. He won the race on Democrat ticket and was sworn on January 20, 2009 as US president.”

The article then compares the events of the 2008 U.S. presidential election to the upcoming election to be held in Tanzania later this year in which a candidate from “Pemba” could win.

The publication contains other articles mentioning Obama, one of which was covered the G20 summit in Toronto and was dated June 28, 2010.

The authors state that Zanzibar, which consists of two islands, Pemba and Unguja, has never elected a president from the island of Pemba. The two islands of Zanzibar located in the Indian Ocean are part of Tanzania in East Africa, with the country of Kenya just north of Tanzania.

(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...


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KEYWORDS: abdallahhusein; barry; birthcertificate; citizenship; corruption; eligibility; foreignnews; ineligibility; kenya; liar; naturalborncitizen; nbc; obama; tanzania; usurper
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Zanzibar could reverse trend to have president from Pemba

For more than 200 years US citizen could not pick a president who has roots outside the country. This might have been the result of racism or belief that a person other than ‘original’ US citizen was capable of effectively leading the powerful nation and help it to maintain its values.

But after political changes globally, and strengthening of democracy, things have changed in the US. We witnessed last year a senator with his origins from east Africa, Barack Abdallah Husein Obama, becoming the first black US president. He won the race on Democrat ticket and was sworn on January 20, 2009 as US president.

1 posted on 07/13/2010 4:40:20 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk; LucyT

FYI.


2 posted on 07/13/2010 4:44:29 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: opentalk

Well if that’s not proof enough for you I just don’t know what is.


3 posted on 07/13/2010 4:45:38 PM PDT by Grunthor (I like you but when the zombies chase us, I'm tripping you.)
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To: little jeremiah; LucyT; Fred Nerks; BP2; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; ...
Tanzanian newspaper reports that Obama has “origins from East Africa”"

Notice, too, his additional middle name: "Barack Abdallah Husein Obama"

4 posted on 07/13/2010 4:46:25 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

I bet you the real COLB has Abdullah on it.


5 posted on 07/13/2010 4:48:55 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: opentalk
Barack Abdallah Husein Obama

Well, I bet the Abdallah part on the birth certificate is what is not supposed to be seen.

This is the first time I've seen the additional name.

Sigh.

6 posted on 07/13/2010 4:50:21 PM PDT by Dasaji (On a beach somewhere in my head...)
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To: opentalk

Why isn’t John McCain a candidate in this election? Seems unfair!!!!


7 posted on 07/13/2010 4:51:12 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: rxsid
Zanzibar could reverse trend to have president from Pemba (Mentions: Barack Abdallah Husein Obama)

I would have pinged you but my pings to certifigate aren't being pinged so I gave up letting anyone know about the articles.

8 posted on 07/13/2010 4:51:55 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: opentalk

Well, of course, if it is proven that ossama bin obama was not born in America whoever proved it are racists.


10 posted on 07/13/2010 4:52:25 PM PDT by taillightchaser (When a democrat says "The American people" you know the next words out of his mouth will be lies.)
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To: Dasaji

So... anyone know what Abdallah ‘translates’ into ?


11 posted on 07/13/2010 4:54:44 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Dasaji

The internet RUMOR I heard was that it was Barak Hussein Muhammed Obama.

This guy sure has a lot of names.


12 posted on 07/13/2010 4:56:39 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: opentalk; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


13 posted on 07/13/2010 4:56:53 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: UCANSEE2
"Abdallah" was Mohammad's father....

http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Abdullah

14 posted on 07/13/2010 5:02:49 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Frantzie

GMTA; that was my first thought too.


15 posted on 07/13/2010 5:03:59 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: rxsid
Barack obama is the US president elect!!! Delaware Senator Joe Biden will be the vice president. God is kind! Africans, and especially us from East Africa have to be proud! OBAMA BE BLESSED!

Oh, swell. And BO is damning the U.S.A. Someone...please...remove...him.

16 posted on 07/13/2010 5:10:26 PM PDT by azishot
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To: rxsid

Any word on Mario’s appeal to SCOTUS?


17 posted on 07/13/2010 5:11:48 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: Arthur McGowan; Beckwith; bgill; bitt; butterdezillion; bvw; conservativegramma; Danae; dennisw; ...

NBC Ping


18 posted on 07/13/2010 5:13:01 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: opentalk

Bump


19 posted on 07/13/2010 5:14:23 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: tutstar

I read your pings tutstar. I appreciate them. Thanks.


20 posted on 07/13/2010 5:18:27 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Frantzie

No, not yet.


21 posted on 07/13/2010 5:19:10 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Numerous articles before the election showed zero as born in Kenya. Minutes of Parliament of Kenya refer to zero’s Kenya origin. Michelle refers to Kenya as zero’s homeland. Doubtful documentation shows a Kenya birth...therefor the more I hear or see about a Kenya birth, the more inclined I am to see each example as a deliberate distraction.

It’s not Hawaii. It’s not Kenya IMO. We are being led by the nose to see something that isn’t there.

One day soon, someone will show who his father and mother were. THEN we will know...and not before.


22 posted on 07/13/2010 5:28:06 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: opentalk
For more than 200 years US citizen could not pick a president who has roots outside the country. This might have been the result of racism or belief that a person other than ‘original’ US citizen was capable of effectively leading the powerful nation and help it to maintain its values.

??????

But that's meaningless nonsense so far as the US concerned.

Didn't all our presidents have "roots outside the country"? At the very least, you've got those presidents whose mother or father or both were born in some part of the British Isles or Empire.

But after political changes globally, and strengthening of democracy, things have changed in the US. We witnessed last year a senator with his origins from east Africa, Barack Abdallah Husein Obama, becoming the first black US president. He won the race on Democrat ticket and was sworn on January 20, 2009 as US president.

Having "roots" or "origins" outside the country? You mean like Kennedy and Ireland? The Roosevelts and Holland? Or are you reading more into this than is there?

23 posted on 07/13/2010 5:33:48 PM PDT by x
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To: rxsid

I saw that.


24 posted on 07/13/2010 5:41:01 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Dasaji
This is the first time I've seen the additional name.;

That is the most interesting. The article doesn't say he was born outside the country, it says he has roots in East Africa.

From Think Baby Names

The boy's name Abdallah \ab-dallah, abd(al)-lah\ is a variant of Abdul (Arabic) and Abdullah (Arabic), and the meaning of Abdallah is "servant; God's servant".

Figured something like that, with "allah" at the end.

25 posted on 07/13/2010 5:41:04 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: opentalk

It was clear enough before the election to anyone with eyes, however, there really can’t be any doubt now: President Hussein is a foreign-born Moslem who was never constitutionally eligible to be chief executive, and who’s busily digging away at the US and her institutions on behalf of his Middle Eastern pals.


26 posted on 07/13/2010 5:42:43 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Dasaji

from link in article -Obama in Tanzania

27 posted on 07/13/2010 5:58:10 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Saved to hard drive before it goes down the memory hole.


28 posted on 07/13/2010 6:01:42 PM PDT by WhirlwindAttack (There will be a "Night of the long knives")
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To: WhirlwindAttack

good, was thinking the same thing.


29 posted on 07/13/2010 6:05:11 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Barack Abdallah Husein Obama,

_______________
WTF?


30 posted on 07/13/2010 6:13:18 PM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)
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To: Frantzie

I’ll bet it does too.


31 posted on 07/13/2010 6:14:01 PM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)
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To: WhirlwindAttack

me too


32 posted on 07/13/2010 6:21:20 PM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)
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To: UCANSEE2
So... anyone know what Abdallah ‘translates’ into ?

Something like "Son of Allah"

33 posted on 07/13/2010 6:22:22 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Baseball is Boring|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Jack Hammer

If he’s constitutionally ineligible, then any law he signed is invalid, including Healthcare and the stimulu packages.


34 posted on 07/13/2010 6:40:57 PM PDT by eCSMaster (He promised hope; he gave us hype. He promised change; he gave us chains!)
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To: UCANSEE2

Adolph ?


35 posted on 07/13/2010 6:47:01 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: eCSMaster

Possibly according to the constitution; however, the constitution these days isn’t worth the parchment it’s printed on.


36 posted on 07/13/2010 6:50:21 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Fred Nerks
It's not Hawaii. It's not Kenya IMO. We are being let by the nose to see something that isn't there.

One day soon, someone will show who his father and mother were, THEN we will know ...and not before.

Agreed, this blatant talk of Kenyan "origins" could be sleight of hand (I am not willing to discount it yet, but it is possible that the press in other countries is poking at us and laughing), and the truth could be hiding in plain sight. It's a good idea to keep an eye on the magician's hands and not just the cards or the rabbit.

We can each keep our eyes on different things.

37 posted on 07/13/2010 6:51:29 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: rxsid; LucyT

We all need to send link to RUsh, FOX, Dredge etc....See if they ignore it, just file it away, or at least mention it.


38 posted on 07/13/2010 6:53:57 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: opentalk

The way to take him down...is NOT via the absence of a birth certificate....but through FRAUD. The DNC committed a fraud-650 million worth of a FRAUD on the American People.

Suits directed by defrauded donors WILL go further than any “constitutional eligibility” challenge.


39 posted on 07/13/2010 6:59:51 PM PDT by mo
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To: Fred Nerks; rxsid; LucyT

FR article link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2550881/posts

Link to article mentioned in FR link above:

http://thecitizen.co.tz/magazines/32-political-platform/2708-zanzibar-could-reverse-trend-to-have-president-from-pemba.html

From post 22 in this thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2550881/posts:
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http://www.mwananchi.co.tz/makala/32-makala-ya-siasa/2867-dk-shein-haroun-aboud-kubadili-historia-ya-urais-zanzibar

Swahili to English (via Google Translate, first two paragraphs):

KWA zaidi ya awamu 44 za urais wa taifa kubwa duniani la Marekani, mtu mwenye asili ya nje ya nchi hiyo hakuwa na nafasi ya kuongoza, aidha kutokana na ubaguzi wa rangi na asili au imani kwamba rais asiyekuwa Mmarekani, hana uwezo wa kuliongoza taifa hilo katika misingi ya kulinda maslahi ya kudumu ya taifa hilo.

“FOR more than a phase 44 of the presidency of a great nation on earth the U.S., having origin outside the country does not have a chance to lead, either because of racism and nature or belief that the president does not become an American, has no ability to lead the nation in terms of protecting the interests of a lasting state.”

Lakini kutokana na mabadiliko ya kisiasa duniani na kukomaa kwa demokrasia ya nchi hiyo, utamaduni huo ulivunjwa na Seneta mwenye asili ya Afrika ya Mashariki, Mkenya, Barack Abdallah Husein Obama baada ya kushinda na kuapishwa rasmi kuwa raisi wa Ikulu ya ‘White House’ Januari 20, 2009 katika jiji la Washington, D.C nchini Marekani.

“But due to changes in the political world and the maturity of democracy in the country, the culture was pulled by Senator nature of East Africa, Kenya, Barack Abdallah Husein Obama after winning and published officially become president of the White House ‘White House’ January 20 , 2009 in the city of Washington, DC in the United States.”

This might also interest you:

http://allafrica.com/stories/201007090717.html

The Citizen (Dar es Salaam)
Tanzania: Zanzibar Nomination - the Shein Puzzle

9 July 2010

The Zanzibar CCM presidential nomination race continued to hot up yesterday, with puzzling claims emerging from Dodoma, which suggested that Vice-President Mohamed Shein might have withdrawn from the contest.

[…]

Speaking to The Citizen, former Zanzibar Attorney General Hamid Mbwezeleni said: “Dr Shein is qualified to contest any elective post but he can’t vote in Zanzibar. Interestingly, in recent days I have heard mischievous interpretations of the constitutional articles, indicating that he is eligible to run for the presidency. But my question is: Does he retain this right after he willingly refused to register as a voter in Zanzibar?” he asked.

[…]

For his part, a lecturer at the University of Dar es Salaam’s School of Journalism and Mass Communication (SJMC), Mr Ayub Rioba, said that if it was true that Dr Shein had withdrawn after discussions on the legal implications of his candidature, then that was a positive sign.

“They will have noted the anomaly sooner than later and for CCM to advise Dr Shein to withdraw is a positive development and a sign of political maturity and democracy in the country,” he said.

[…]

Political maturity and democracy. Heh.

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My personal take on this:

Someone is laughing at us.

(1) First they begin by stating that America holds blatant disregard of its own Constitution by electing an ineligible candidate (”having origin outside the country does not have a chance to lead”)
(2) but say that electing someone “having origin outside the country” is due to “changes in the political world and the maturity of democracy in the country, the culture”
(3) then they raise their eyebrows at Tanzania’s possible flouting of its own constitution (”mischievous interpretations of the constitutional articles”) since their presidential candidate wasn’t locally registered as a voter,
(4) then they finish by stating the fact that the ineligible candidate withdrew was a sign of their moral superiority and “a positive development and a sign of political maturity and democracy in the country.”


40 posted on 07/13/2010 7:09:46 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: opentalk

KENYAN BORN OBAMA ALL SET FOR SENATE former article:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm

AllAfrica.com — “Kampala — Ugandans have formed a group to mobilise support for Kenyan-born Senator...”
http://allafrica.com/stories/200802180051.html

SECURITY CONCERNS FOR TOURISM AS SENATOR OBAMA JETS INTO KENYA
As Kenyan born US Senator Barack Obama…(13th headline down)
http://www.africa-ata.org/ug_newsletter.htm

NPR …STORIES OUT OF AFRICA:
http://frontpage.americandaughter.com/images/kenyan-born-npr-page.jpg

THE CITIZEN:
We witnessed last year a senator with his origins from east Africa, Barack Abdallah Husein Obama, becoming the first black US president……..
http://thecitizen.co.tz/magazines/32-political-platform/2708-zanzibar-could-reverse-trend-to-have-president-from-pemba.html

THE NIGERIAN OBSERVER:
http://oilforimmigration.org/images/screencapt3.jpg

THE GHANAIAN TIMES:
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll1/BecJul/Go_Obama_Ghanaian_Times2.jpg?t=1255731958

Kenyan born U.S. Senator “exploring ways” of helping home province:
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll1/BecJul/BBC_NEWS_Kenyan_Born_Obama.jpg?t=1259875484


41 posted on 07/13/2010 7:36:47 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: hoosiermama; rxsid; LucyT

Good luck, you will never hear a peep from them. Soetoro’s FCC has sanitized this issue for good!!!


42 posted on 07/13/2010 8:48:03 PM PDT by danamco (")
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Attorney Mario Apuzzo’s “Catalog of Evidence” as to why Americans should be concerned that Obama has not conclusively proven that he was born in Hawaii.

A Catalog of Evidence - Concerned Americans Have Good Reason
to Doubt that Putative President Obama Was Born in Hawaii
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/05/catalog-of-evidence-concerned-americans.html

Citizen at Birth (CAB) does NOT identically equal Natural Born Citizen (NBC) at Birth.
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/07/citizen-at-birth-cab-does-not-equal.html


43 posted on 07/13/2010 9:06:56 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner (Title 8, Section 1401, Citizen at Birth, natural born Citizen, CAB, NBC)
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To: thecodont; opentalk; All

Agreed, this blatant talk of Kenyan "origins" could be sleight of hand (I am not willing to discount it yet, but it is possible that the press in other countries is poking at us and laughing), and the truth could be hiding in plain sight. It's a good idea to keep an eye on the magician's hands and not just the cards or the rabbit.

There may be a hint of truth with this tie to Tanzania.

Some of us might remember from research from the long thread
(Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz).

Background:

Photobucket

Barack Hussein Obama Jr. is believed to have been born in Mombasa, Kenya
on August 4, 1961.

If true, the city of Mombasa — in what is now Kenya — was part of what was known in 1961 as the “ten-mile strip”, a/k/a the “coastal strip” (and about a half dozen other names). Though the "coastal strip" was geographically in the then-Kenyan colony, it was politically under Zanzibar, which by then was independent from Tanganyika.

Tracing the historical perspective of the land issue, the former CKRC commissioner, writes: “In 1895, the Sultan [of Zanzibar] gave the British power to administer the ten-mile coastal strip subject to their respecting the existing Kadhi’s Courts, among other conditions. The British did so and declared a protectorate over the Coast while the rest of Kenya was a colony proper. The Sultan [of Zanzibar], however, retained sovereignty over the ten-mile Coastal Strip. During the last years of the independence struggle and at the start of the Lancaster House Constitutional talks in 1961, the status and fate of the coastal strip came up for determination.”

Kenya became independent on December 12, 1963. Zanzibar became independent two days earlier; but the “coastal strip” had been ceded by the Sultan of Zanzibar to Kenya in October 1963 in a recently-discovered letter (The Kenya Coastal Strip Ð Report).

As part of this letter agreement between the the British Government, the Sultan of Zanzibar and soon-to-be-formed independent Government of Kenya, the Sultan of Zanzibar would surrender his Sovereignty claims over the "coastal strip", in consideration of the Kenya Government undertaking to respect and safeguarding inter alia the maintenance of the Sharia Law for Muslims and the retention of the Kadhi’s Courts. It's probable that NOT EVERYONE got this diplomatic memo announcing that the "Coastal Strip" would NO LONGER be part of Zanzibar (later Tanzania).

On a side note, there are still many property disputes to this day between people who own property in the “coastal strip” and squatter who don't accept this October 1963 agreement. Things were obviously very unstable as the Brits set free empires throughout Africa. (Revisiting ten-mile strip controversy)

Regardless, on January 12, 1964, insurgents overthrew the Sultan of Zanzibar and his government. By April 26, 1964, a merger of with the new government of Zanzibar with Tanganyika formed the new nation of Tanzania.

Many of civil and Kadhi’s Court documents from the fateful Mombasa and “coastal strip” area surely lie in the hands of Tanzania officials from that confusing time in history ... possibly including a much-sought 1961 Kadhi Court “Marriage Certificate” between the parties of Obama/Dunham and/or a “Certificate of Life Birth” for a baby born circa Aug 1961 in Mombasa — named “Barack Abdallah Husein Obama”.

Photobucket
Imams and Islamic Scholars in 1962 Zanzibar (later Tanzania)


Bottom line: Copies of Obama Jr's Mombasa Birth Records may well exist in Tanzania's Vital Statistic archives. Seeing how Ann Dunham had a penchant for changing her own name, she may have dropped "Abdallah" on a "Certificate of Late Birth" application for her mulatto son as they passed though Hawaii, on "Mrs. Anna Obama"/"Stanley Ann Dunham Obama"'s way to start school in September 1961 at University of Washington in Seattle.

Obama Anna Mrs - Seattle address, 1961 from Polk Directory




44 posted on 07/13/2010 10:02:31 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

Nice trip down memory lane with your post.

“Abdallah”......how the heck did you remember it was there?

Good catch and good memory.

This tangled web of crap Barry, his mother, and the puppet masters have spun is frightful.


45 posted on 07/14/2010 12:43:51 AM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence)
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To: Aurorales

frightful? frightening?

Don’t know which one works at the end of that sentence. (#45)
Maybe they both do.

I will blame my lack of correct word usage on my insomnia.
There now I feel better.

Anyway.....post #44 on this thread deserves the extra bump anyway.


46 posted on 07/14/2010 12:51:59 AM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence)
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To: Aurorales; All

Anyway........anyway.....

Try to fix my mistake and of course I make a new one.
_________________________________

“Barack Abdallah Husein Obama”

All that is left is to tack “Muhammad” on to it.

That would just be the cherry on the cake of my day.


47 posted on 07/14/2010 1:04:17 AM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence)
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To: UCANSEE2
If he did have other Islamic middle names, he Ayers would have bragged about them in Dreams. Although, he once "joked" his middle name was Steve so it might very well be a slip from his big ego that there is a middle name out there.
48 posted on 07/14/2010 6:23:43 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: Fred Nerks
It’s not Hawaii. It’s not Kenya IMO. We are being led by the nose to see something that isn’t there. One day soon, someone will show who his father and mother were. THEN we will know...and not before.

You think all the early info about Kenya was falsified way back decades ago? Back to his childhood?

49 posted on 07/14/2010 6:34:28 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: BP2
bump

thanks BP2

50 posted on 07/14/2010 7:31:54 AM PDT by opentalk
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