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To: kabar; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; FromLori; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
RE :”You see, a death by a thousand legal cuts is not actually my position. Rather, if you're the average conservative American, it's yours. And what I put forth wasn't actually a proposal. Rather, it was a reality. It's called legal immigration. Something often accompanying the disclaimer, “Look, I support legal immigration, but...” is “I realize most of the folks coming here are good, hardworking people...” Now, while I'd point out that it takes only 51 percent to qualify as “most,” this statement is correct in the following sense: Most of those arriving legally are, usingAnd the proof is in the pudding. Approximately 80 percent of new legal immigrants, once naturalized, vote as our culture-rending leftists do (for leftist Democrats). For a specific example, consider that first-time Hispanic voters cast ballots for Bill Clinton by a ratio of 15 to 1.moderns’ typical yardstick, good, hardworking people. ...And if we're going to support our current legal-immigration scheme, why get so worked up over illegal migration? We are already supporting a legal cultural death by a thousand cuts; we are already supporting the importation of nearly a million socialist-leaning voters every year. All amnesty does is expedite the process.

I tried to point this big problem out to Republicans many times but never got anywhere. This country had a massive legal immigration invasion under the Bush years (he said we needed all those workers for his growing economy) and most of them ended up voting democrat in 2008. Even now they are sympathetic to Obama and his ideas that he is doing the best anyone can and is disliked for being non-white. Our immigration system that puts relatives to the front of the line is bankrupting this country. As soon as they get in they get benefits and their kids get free college and learn to believe in government handouts. We should reform the system so those that can contribute are put at the front of the line.

9 posted on 07/14/2010 7:56:51 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: sickoflibs
I agree we need to go to a merit based system of immigration. We should have a pro-immigrant policy of low immigration.

The huge influx of immigration since the passage of the 1965 Immigration Act has already had a major impact on electoral politics in this nation. Here is an excellent study from Prof James Gimpel of the University of Maryland:

Immigration, Political Realignment, and the Demise of Republican Political Prospects

14 posted on 07/14/2010 8:06:12 AM PDT by kabar
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To: sickoflibs
I tried to point this big problem out to Republicans many times but never got anywhere.
It's a Kabuki dance between radicals on the Left and "diplomats" allegedly on the Right.

What the diplomatic "Progressives" have always done is insert themselves between the radical Left and the outraged conservative and turn to the conservative and demand that the latter must give up some ground. And get downright angry at the conservatives when they point to the breaking of principles and the constitution.

It's from giving in a little here and a little there that their nothing left to give. It is conservative in nature to defend the status quo right? Well, the newest generation hasn't known anything of the freedoms the boomers were born into and permitted to be whittled away. What will it take for every American to recognize the truth of my tagline and decide that without a doubt "conservative" is the wrong label to place upon themselves?

Look, what will it take for a much larger number of Americans to get and refuse to take it any more?

Both parties are playing for the tyranny faction. Now the Dems are ruled by the radicals with their nihilistic notions that lead to control by the powerful outside of law, and in general daily speaks the most nonsense anyone has ever seen. And the GOP is dominated by leaders who are undeclared enemies of the constitution -- Statist republicans -- who are prepared to provide the power that rules -- they are no -nonsense about it too and will turn a dime and get angry with real conservatives. Conservatives like you see condescension at best and almost never see the diplomat the Dems see.

While I don't trust Michael Savage right now, he does use a few turns of phrase that I love.

“Don’t you get it yet? What are you? Crazy?”

“It’s two card Monte, and there’s no bean under either nut.”

We should reform the system so those that can contribute are put at the front of the line so that elected leaders fear the people rather than the people fear their rulers.

34 posted on 07/14/2010 9:07:05 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus CONSERVATIVE is a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: sickoflibs
Our immigration system that puts relatives to the front of the line is bankrupting this country. As soon as they get in they get benefits and their kids get free college and learn to believe in government handouts. We should reform the system so those that can contribute are put at the front of the line.

You're right on this, sickoflibs.

46 posted on 07/14/2010 10:32:03 AM PDT by GOPJ (Voter intimidation? New Black Panthers and old White Citizens Council - brothers under the skin.)
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