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America's Ruling Class -- And the Perils of Revolution
American Spectator ^ | Angelo M. Codevilla

Posted on 07/16/2010 4:35:54 AM PDT by rellimpank

As over-leveraged investment houses began to fail in September 2008, the leaders of the Republican and Democratic parties, of major corporations, and opinion leaders stretching from the National Review magazine (and the Wall Street Journal) on the right to the Nation magazine on the left, agreed that spending some $700 billion to buy the investors' "toxic assets" was the only alternative to the U.S. economy's "systemic collapse." In this, President George W. Bush and his would-be Republican successor John McCain agreed with the Democratic candidate, Barack Obama. Many, if not most, people around them also agreed upon the eventual commitment of some 10 trillion nonexistent dollars in ways unprecedented in America. They explained neither the difference between the assets' nominal and real values, nor precisely why letting the market find the latter would collapse America. The public objected immediately, by margins of three or four to one.

When this majority discovered that virtually no one in a position of power in either party or with a national voice would take their objections seriously, that decisions about their money were being made in bipartisan backroom deals with interested parties, and that the laws on these matters were being voted by people who had not read them, the term "political class" came into use. Then, after those in power changed their plans from buying toxic assets to buying up equity in banks and major industries but refused to explain why, when they reasserted their right to decide ad hoc on these and so many other matters, supposing them to be beyond the general public's understanding, the American people started referring to those in and around government as the "ruling class."

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; class; codevilla; cwii; cwiiping; revwarii; rinos; ruling; rulingclass; washington
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1 posted on 07/16/2010 4:35:58 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

There will indeed be a revolution. How violent it is remains to be seen.

However, I - as before - volunteer to operate the guillotine.

And I will do it with a smile.


2 posted on 07/16/2010 4:49:11 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: rellimpank

Its the Rinocratic Oligarchy....and the major supporters and players represent interests seeing We the People as tax slaves and serfs...rather than functioning as our employees.

That’s our fault.


3 posted on 07/16/2010 4:53:08 AM PDT by mo
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To: Da Coyote

We’ve had two domestic American against Americans wars in this country. Third time is a charm.

The Second Amendment, it’s not just for squirrels.


4 posted on 07/16/2010 4:53:31 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: rellimpank

Interesting article, but WAY too long to try to plough through before my daily quota of caffiene...

Bookmark for later.....


5 posted on 07/16/2010 4:54:27 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Da Coyote

I don’t think the business “kulaks” got the message that they better start hiring!


6 posted on 07/16/2010 4:55:53 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: rellimpank

bflr


7 posted on 07/16/2010 4:56:32 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Da Coyote

Our leaders today are very much like the French aristocrats of 1788, just as ignorant and arrogant. Zee heads will roll.


8 posted on 07/16/2010 5:04:03 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: rellimpank

I can’t think of anyone in prison here in the US that should be released. So we can skip the “Storm the Bastille” part.


9 posted on 07/16/2010 5:09:11 AM PDT by P.O.E. ("Now who's being naive, Kaye?" - M. Corleone)
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To: rellimpank
Americans' conviction that the ruling class is as hostile as it is incompetent has solidified.

Pretty well describes Lindsey Graham, John McCain, George W. Bush, Susan Collins, Olympia Snow, Orrin Hatch, Scott Brown, et. al.

10 posted on 07/16/2010 5:09:57 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: rellimpank

Bump


11 posted on 07/16/2010 5:14:45 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Leisler

I know one of those is the Civil War. What was the other one?


12 posted on 07/16/2010 5:17:02 AM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: rellimpank

“Our ruling class’s agenda is power for itself.”

One major reason I love George Washington, who refused to be King and retired after 2 terms as President.

Maybe only those who take a psych test to prove they are like GW should be allowed to “rule.” :)


13 posted on 07/16/2010 5:22:13 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: rellimpank

The ruling class’s appetite for deference, power, and perks grows. The country class disrespects its rulers, wants to curtail their power and reduce their perks. The ruling class wears on its sleeve the view that the rest of “Americans are racist, greedy, and above all stupid. The country class is ever more convinced that our rulers are corrupt, malevolent, and inept. The rulers want the ruled to shut up and obey. The ruled want self-governance. The clash between the two is about which side’s vision of itself and of the other is right and which is wrong. Because each side — especially the ruling class — embodies its views on the issues, concessions by one side to another on any issue tend to discredit that side’s view of itself. One side or the other will prevail. The clash is as sure and momentous as its outcome is unpredictable.”

The outcome I believe is quite predictable, the people will prevail and the ruling government will fall.

I’d love to be a part of it !!


14 posted on 07/16/2010 5:23:26 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA, Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: rellimpank; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; FromLori; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ..
RE :”As over-leveraged investment houses began to fail in September 2008, the leaders of the Republican and Democratic parties, of major corporations, and opinion leaders stretching from the National Review magazine (and the Wall Street Journal) on the right to the Nation magazine on the left, agreed that spending some $700 billion to buy the investors’ “toxic assets” was the only alternative to the U.S. economy's “systemic collapse.” In this, President George W. Bush and his would-be Republican successor John McCain agreed with the Democratic candidate, Barack Obama. Many, if not most, people around them also agreed upon the eventual commitment of some 10 trillion nonexistent dollars in ways unprecedented in America. They explained neither the difference between the assets’ nominal and real values, nor precisely why letting the market find the latter would collapse America. The public objected immediately, by margins of three or four to one.

This was one of the number of bailouts and don't forget the 2008 Bush/Pelosi bi-partision stimulus package that preceded both the economy/financial collapse and the call for TARP.

Just when voters were starting to forget how bad Republicans were (because of democrats failure and self destruction) we hear that GWBs book goes on sale right after the midterm election. Just what we need. Get out the handkerchiefs for the upcoming 'Pray for Bush' threads. Expect lots more nostalgic weeping about 'the good times'.

15 posted on 07/16/2010 5:25:04 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: rellimpank
George W. Bush's 2005 inaugural statement that America cannot be free until the whole world is free and hence that America must push and prod mankind to freedom was but an extrapolation of the sentiments of America's Progressive class, first articulated by such as Princeton's Woodrow Wilson and Columbia's Nicholas Murray Butler.

I think ,like most that try to homogenize Republican and Democrat, they overlook a lot of distinctions. The biggest policy victory of my life was the Republican agenda that overthrew the Soviets; that was directly in opposition to the ruling class and remained so for at least 15 years through the mid-70's up to 1990; yet the homogenizers like Ron Paul come down on the side of the ruling class, in effect. I think it's nonsense to attribute the evangelism for America, that runs throughout history, to the Progressives, as he does here, you'd have to discount John Winthrop's "Shining City on a Hill" from the 1630's, up through the founders to Reagan.

16 posted on 07/16/2010 5:31:05 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: rellimpank

file under “revolution”


17 posted on 07/16/2010 5:32:39 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (Where is the Black Regiment?)
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To: Da Coyote
There will indeed be a revolution.

There has been a revolution occurring for decades by the socialists/marxists. The Tea party movement is seeking to stop and restore the limited government principles our founding fathers instilled in the Constitution.
18 posted on 07/16/2010 5:34:59 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: rellimpank

The article is far too wordy.


19 posted on 07/16/2010 5:36:03 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Da Coyote
However, I - as before - volunteer to operate the guillotine.

Have you ever killed anyone? Don't you think it would weigh heavily on your conscience? The American way is to get the folks out of power, undo their mistakes, and then go on from there.

20 posted on 07/16/2010 5:42:37 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: mo; sickoflibs; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; DoughtyOne; Avoiding_Sulla; Bokababe; AuntB; All

” Its the Rinocratic Oligarchy “

That is worthy of “Post of the Day” all by itself!!


21 posted on 07/16/2010 5:56:36 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: sickoflibs

Would Sarah Palin consider GW Bush a “good ol’ boy?”


22 posted on 07/16/2010 6:00:43 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: rellimpank

Long article...But...Well worth the time to read it!


23 posted on 07/16/2010 6:03:33 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: sickoflibs; mkjessup; rellimpank; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; FromLori; Gilbo_3; ...

“Just when voters were starting to forget how bad Republicans were (because of democrats failure and self destruction) we hear that GWBs book goes on sale right after the midterm election. Just what we need. Get out the handkerchiefs for the upcoming ‘Pray for Bush’ threads. Expect lots more nostalgic weeping about ‘the good times’. “

It will leak well before the election, and Bush will be crucified all over again RIGHT BEFORE the election.Everyone will once again be reminded that Bush blew it.


24 posted on 07/16/2010 6:09:13 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: huldah1776
RE :”Would Sarah Palin consider GW Bush a “good ol’ boy?

She is careful not to talk about GWB years at all which is smart politically. I know just after the 2008 election loss she gave an interview blaming the Bush years (spending, debt, war problems) on the McCain-Palin loss. But soon after that she went into campaign mode and that meant talking as if the universe was created the day Obama was sworn in. She repudiated TARP1 (after defending it with Mccain) as that became very unpopular with most of the republicans after Obama took office.

25 posted on 07/16/2010 6:10:28 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: stephenjohnbanker; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; rellimpank; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; ...
RE :”It will leak well before the election, and Bush will be crucified all over again RIGHT BEFORE the election.Everyone will once again be reminded that Bush blew it.

That is when we will be lectured by our Pray for Bush friends led by our favorite Bush-bot friend (codename ‘truth file’) that the only way we can beat democrats (because of his book) is to get behind Bush again and create a phony legacy for him much like democrats did for Clinton. Dem's had a easier job than Bush-bots do. Things were very bad in 2008.

Yep, Bush coming out now can only hurt us, remember his GM bailout ~ January 2009 just to remind us at the end who he really was?

26 posted on 07/16/2010 6:22:07 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: Da Coyote

“There will indeed be a revolution. How violent it is remains to be seen.

However, I - as before - volunteer to operate the guillotine.

And I will do it with a smile.”

It is our only hope. Both parties are corrupt, both parties work for the bankers.

The risk in a revolution is that you don’t know where we come out on the other side. Do we return to constitutional government or do we end up with less freedom than when we began?


27 posted on 07/16/2010 6:24:40 AM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: rellimpank

For later reading.


28 posted on 07/16/2010 6:27:19 AM PDT by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: tbw2

Revolutionary War, c 1776, “War for Independence” - won
Civil War c. 1861, “2nd War for Independence” - lost
Yet to be named and dated, “3rd War for Independence” - tie breaker to be determined


29 posted on 07/16/2010 6:34:38 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Sawdring
The American way is to get the folks out of power, undo their mistakes, and then go on from there.

So much for Jefferson's "tree of liberty" quote.

30 posted on 07/16/2010 6:36:17 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Da Coyote

You might be there a while! Unless you build one that does about 100 at a time! LOL


31 posted on 07/16/2010 6:38:37 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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To: FightThePower!

Will the revolution be televised?


32 posted on 07/16/2010 6:49:46 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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Ping


33 posted on 07/16/2010 6:53:40 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Conservative States of America has a nice ring to it.)
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To: rellimpank

a third-party that ran on a promise of a Term Limits constitutional amendment AND ending all government pensions would get some serious traction


34 posted on 07/16/2010 6:58:28 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: JohnnyP

Will the revolution be televised?

Not on CNN.

(well, they may interview the guillotine operator and ask him whether he realizes he got a $400 tax refund)


35 posted on 07/16/2010 6:59:40 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sickoflibs
“Just when voters were starting to forget how bad Republicans were (because of democrats failure and self destruction) we hear that GWBs book goes on sale right after the midterm election. Just what we need. Get out the handkerchiefs for the upcoming ‘Pray for Bush’ threads. Expect lots more nostalgic weeping about ‘the good times’.”

The Timing! this has to be Soros’s work GW Please go away you DID nothing but grease the rails for a Communist takeover Be Proud you let the country down traitor.

36 posted on 07/16/2010 7:08:54 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: US_MilitaryRules; Da Coyote; rellimpank

Tied down totalitarians on a variable speed production line facing the bloody saw blade. I’ll be the quality control guy insuring the neck is in proper alignment. Production line capability necessary for all totalitarians on the planet. Introduce 6-sigma 2.0 for totalitarians.

Thanks for posting, rellimpank.


37 posted on 07/16/2010 7:15:38 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: P.O.E.
Just because you don't know any does not mean there are none.

People are imprisoned for political or personal reasons of the ‘ruling class’ all the time. I've known several.

I left the USSR to get away from things like this but I feel like I am back again. It hurts to think I could be living in an even worse place at an old age. At least the Soviets took care of and respected old people that gave their all for the country. I fear that I will have to fight the vapid self-absorbed obamabots for my life here.

38 posted on 07/16/2010 7:25:26 AM PDT by varyouga (Obama doesn't care about white people!)
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To: tbw2
Revolution. A third supported the government, the Crown. A third were in insurrection. And, a third, sat on the sidelines.

( My relations on my father's side were ‘loyalist’ in Boston, and fled to Nova Scotia for a few years. Some stayed and are still there )

We would have a Yugoslavia type ‘event’. Street by street, neighbor by neighbor.

However I think a minority of us can, demanding our rights, in full, do a Solidarity type ‘event’ over a few years with ‘illegal’ actions. Illegal as defined by our over lords.

39 posted on 07/16/2010 8:09:48 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The revolution will be YouTubed.


40 posted on 07/16/2010 8:11:08 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: mo

Post of the day!


41 posted on 07/16/2010 8:12:51 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: tbw2; Leisler

“..I know one of those is the Civil War. What was the other one?..”

What do you think 1775-1783 was? We call it the “Revolution” but it was every bit Civil War - citizen against citizen.

Those weren’t simply “the British”; they were Government troops. And a lot of them lived here. And the Tory militias that were raised were “homegrown” and loyal to the Crown. That was as much brother against brother as Civil War II (1861-1865)

Then, as now, there were two types of folks;

Those that saw themselves as free-born Americans with a God-given right to liberty - and those that saw themselves as subjects of something else.

Some things never change.


42 posted on 07/16/2010 8:52:48 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: rellimpank
This is a great article. I know there are some who say it is "too long", but sometimes the truth needs space to breath in detail.

The soundbites and slogans can energize later from the truth - just like in the first American Revolution.

43 posted on 07/16/2010 9:08:58 AM PDT by Gritty (Almost every problem we face today arises from the vanity of Big Government - Mark Steyn)
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To: Professional Engineer
Those living on fat union pensions best have protection against the rest of us. It's not who is in charge.

CA is a good case subject. It is $22bn in debt this year so far. Last year it is conservatively estimated the underground (illegal) untaxed economy generated $120bn.

The solution is to arrest all illegals, heavily fine those who hire them and put US citizens back to work. US citizens pay taxes and vote.

44 posted on 07/16/2010 9:14:48 AM PDT by BobS
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To: stephenjohnbanker; mo; sickoflibs; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; DoughtyOne; Avoiding_Sulla; Bokababe; ..

“Rinocratic”

It’s kinda sorta like horsesh*t...you can shovel over and cover it with anything you want...

..but underneath it, the common element is still sh*t.

That’s where we are right now. We have absolute complete and total sh*t running things.

We HIRE these assclowns to be managers and caretakers of the country, nothing more; and after the election, we as a nation close our eyes and go about our business, living our lives, trying to make our daily way in the world, all the while trusting these b*stards to do their jobs because, hey, we’re ALL Americans, after all, and gee, NO AMERICAN would EVER do anything to hurt the country...

..but somewhere along the way, we allowed the caretakers to begin believing that they’re actually our Overlords.

...and somewhere along the way, we weren’t paying attention when some of these wretched b*stards started mouthing off that hey, maybe I DO hate my own country enough to rip it apart from the inside out...and their actions have proven it over and over again...and people elected them anyway...

...and these same people, thinking themselves Overlords and all that, have shown themselves to have absolute, complete, and total CONTEMPT for us when we dare have the temerity to show an iota of indignation at their abuses and indiscretions.

...and in the fact that they think themselves Overlords, they forget the single most important fact of history in their arrogance...

..that fact that every once in while, the Little Guy - the guy who bends his back to the grindstone every day, who busts his ass to put food on the table for his kids, who worries and loses sleep about the bills and caring for the sick mother or father, who suffers the heart attackes and the high cholesterol and the strokes because of stress, who can’t afford the mortgage, the property taxes, the school taxes, the utilities and the basic necessities anymore because the hired help has destroyed the economy - every once in a while, who puts up with the daily political correct bullsh*t and indoctrination and other nonsense just to keep his job...

..that Little Guy wakes up one day, looks at his flag and his country and remembers how it was and how it was supposed to be, and his eyes open a little wider with the realization of how F*CKED OVER his country has become, and he stands up and says not just “no”, but “OH HELL NO!” - and usually it doesn’t end well for the Overlord...and everyone else involved.

Life is a wheel, and it revolves. And you’re either driving the revolution of that wheel, or getting crushed under the weight of it.


45 posted on 07/16/2010 9:20:15 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; mo; sickoflibs; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; DoughtyOne; Avoiding_Sulla; Bokababe

Excellent post!

The peasants are coming out from under the ether, and they are furious. Millions are ready to fight. Will we? Time will tell.


46 posted on 07/16/2010 9:35:01 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Some will, some won’t and some will collaborate.

Same as any other time in history.

We made the mistake of thinking we are any different.

So did the Germans, and they got Hitler for it.


47 posted on 07/16/2010 9:38:22 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; stephenjohnbanker; mo; sickoflibs; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; DoughtyOne; Bokababe

The reason I do not like RINO in any form is that the targets of our ridicule wear it as a badge of honor.

They know they’re republicans even if the Republican Party ostensibly is the party defending the constitution.

An elitist republican CANNOT be a constitutional republican. An elitist republican believes they’re doing what us morons need be done, and it’s their duty to violate the constitution where it needs to be violated.

RINO = Republican In Name Only. But they’re still republicans, simply a different kind.

Come up with a new term to deride these a$$$holes and maybe they’ll finally get pissed off and thereby give away their dirty little secret.

A Statist Republican politician displays more anger and hostility toward a conservative member of the GOP than he’d ever display to even a radical Dem colleague.

Think outside the box. What will cause a Statist Republican to unravel entirely?

For instance, does our experience with Arlen Specter lend us a clue?

P.S. to Statist plants trolling this and other threads:
Turn on your masters. America and what it has long provided the common man is more important to you than anything your masters promise you today. Remember that how tyrants killed off their most effective henchmen once the tyrants got what they wanted because they feared nobody so much as men like you who know the real score. Turn on your masters before they decide they no longer need you. Their threat to you is far greater than anything anyone here would do when they discover who you are.


48 posted on 07/16/2010 9:39:05 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus CONSERVATIVE is a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla; stephenjohnbanker; mo; sickoflibs; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; DoughtyOne; Bokababe

“..Come up with a new term to deride these a$$$holes ...”

How about “Feckless Liberal Douchebag Traitor?”

“Donkey Ass-licking Subversive?”

Shall I go on?

Like I said...horsesh*t by any other name is still sh*t.


49 posted on 07/16/2010 9:48:35 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla; NFHale; mo; sickoflibs; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; DoughtyOne; Bokababe

” A Statist Republican politician displays more anger and hostility toward a conservative member of the GOP than he’d ever display to even a radical Dem colleague. “

Witness the 12,500,000 McCain has spent on radio and TV ads against Hayworth(and 90% of the ads are bare-faced LIES)

Now McCain in 08..

” I’m here to tell you, you have nothing to fear from an Obama administration”

” Barack Obama is a good family man “


50 posted on 07/16/2010 9:51:20 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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