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To: GonzoGOP; Kartographer

” Motorcycle gangs will be the most dangerous and effect looters/pillagers during any prolong SHTF event.

Well rouge military would be worse, “

Less dramatic, but far more difficult to deal with will be the miles-long columns of refugees fleeing no-longer-functioning cities....

Tens-of-thousands of unarmed and mostly non-violent men, women, and children scavenging everything edible or usable as they pass....

The only effective defense is to be where they ain’t - far off the ‘beaten track’.....


151 posted on 07/16/2010 2:22:11 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Uncle Ike
Less dramatic, but far more difficult to deal with will be the miles-long columns of refugees fleeing no-longer-functioning cities

Wolves -vs- plague of locusts. The wolves appear to be more dangerous, but if prepared you can deal them. The locusts just eat you our of house and home. The good news is that they can't go very far without transport. And most urban dwelling Obama voters are too stupid to bug out early. They will wait for the Magical FEMA fairy to come save them. Untrained, underfed, not used to long marches cross country, hauling suitcases and carts rather than proper battle rattle. The best they are going to do is 12 miles a day. In a week they would starve so 84 miles from the edge of civilization is about as far as they are going to get. Get 100 miles out and you are probably safe from anyone who isn't mechanized.

And when the fuel runs out nobody is going to want to commute 100 miles to loot even if they have the gas. The bikers can do it because they get great gas millage and are used to long rides. The boys form the hood will be busy looting the refuges closer to home.
155 posted on 07/16/2010 2:32:42 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Uncle Ike
We had a discussion about this topic on my blog, and one commenter came up with an interesting observation:

No matter what the scenario, I think people with responsibility for the protection of women, and more significantly young women, will have a lot on their hands. Food and precious metals will be sought after, as will firearms, working transportation, medical supplies etc.... but your daughters will be prizes to all the thugs that are willing to take the other things. One of the neat things about the gals is that they do have a certain steadiness about them if they can be convinced to forget the drama for a minute and get a grip. Once there, well.... have you seen a single-minded woman at the range? Some of them can do remarkably well even on their first day. With proper familiarization and training....... All that to say this..... while they will be targets of the ruffians, they can be taught to shoot and do other things, to help in their own defense. With the proper motivation (like not getting raped and killed) they will be just as effective as the next guy in defending themselves and all you dads, husbands and brothers out there. The world is NOT all men against men. Do everyone a favor and a) train them up right in the paths of righteousness b) teach them to be compassionate and loving (we men all need the civilizing effects of good women around us) c) teach them to kill d) feed well, and watch them grow and beautify the crumbling world....


182 posted on 07/16/2010 3:51:56 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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