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'Scary' growth of gangs in war zones
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | July 17, 2010 | FRANK MAIN

Posted on 07/17/2010 10:12:33 AM PDT by KeyLargo

'Scary' growth of gangs in war zones

Chicago cop who served in Afghanistan and Iraq has warning: Gang members are coming home with military training

FRANK MAIN

Being in a street gang is now forbidden for members of the U.S. armed forces. But you might not guess that if you were to visit U.S. military bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to soldiers who have recently served there.

Jeffrey Stoleson, a Wisconsin corrections official, returned from Iraq in January with photos of gang graffiti on armored vehicles, latrines and buildings. Stoleson, a sergeant with a National Guard unit, was there for nine months to help the Army set up a prison facility outside Baghdad.

"I saw Maniac Latin Disciples graffiti out of Chicago," Stoleson said, adding that there was a lot of graffiti for Texas and California gangs, as well as Mexican drug cartels.

A Chicago Police officer -- who retired from the regular Army and was recently on a tour of Afghanistan in the Army Reserve -- said Bagram Air Base was covered with Chicago gang graffiti, everything from the Gangster Disciples' pitchfork to the Latin Kings' crown.

"It seems bigger now," said the officer, who previously served a tour in Iraq, where he also saw gang graffiti.

Now back in Chicago, the officer said he has arrested high-level gang members who have served in the military and kept the "Infantryman's bible" -- called the FM 7-8 -- in their homes. The book describes how to run for cover, fire a weapon tactically and do the "three- to five-second rushes" seen in war movies.

"It's scary," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gangs; military; signs; soldiers
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1 posted on 07/17/2010 10:12:40 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: SandRat

Any truth to this?


2 posted on 07/17/2010 10:15:13 AM PDT by BenLurkin (Hige sceal be heardra, heorte be cenre, mod sceal be mare, be ure maegen lytlao)
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To: BenLurkin

My brother is in the Army, an MP. He has told me it is a real problem now. Seems like it is getting worse.


3 posted on 07/17/2010 10:17:29 AM PDT by dis.kevin (Dry white toast)
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To: BenLurkin

This isn’t the first time I’ve read about this. Doesn’t bode well for domestic security. Our future looks bleaker every day.


4 posted on 07/17/2010 10:19:47 AM PDT by catbertz
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To: KeyLargo

You didn’t think Obummer was going to let his boys go untrained if they are going to be as large and well equipped as the US Military now did you? Brown Shirts have to be trained by someone and since he can’t openly send them to Fidel for advanced training...


5 posted on 07/17/2010 10:21:00 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: BenLurkin

National Gang Intelligence Center
National Gang Threat Assessment 2009
January 2009

Gang Members in the Military

Members of nearly every major street gang as well as some prison gangs and OMGs have been identified on both domestic and international military installations. Deployments have resulted in gang members among service members and/or dependents on or near overseas bases. Additionally, military transfers have resulted in gang members, both service members and dependents/relatives, moving to new areas and establishing a gang presence.

Gang members with military training pose a unique threat to law enforcement personnel because of the distinctive military skills that they possess and their willingness to teach these skills to fellow gang members. While the number of gang members trained by the military is unknown, the threat that they pose to law enforcement is potentially significant, particularly if gang members trained in weapons, tactics, and planning pass this instruction on to other gang members. (See Table 1.) In addition, gang members currently serving in the military sometimes take advantage of their positions to engage in criminal activities such as trafficking weapons and drugs.

http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs32/32146/military.htm


6 posted on 07/17/2010 10:23:48 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: catbertz

“Our future looks bleaker every day.”

Indeed.


7 posted on 07/17/2010 10:24:00 AM PDT by BenLurkin (Will must be the harder, courage the bolder, spirit must be the more, as our might lessens.)
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To: BenLurkin

Talked with a navy recruiter just this summer. One of the disqualifiers is tatoos. No exceptions.


8 posted on 07/17/2010 10:26:14 AM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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To: KeyLargo; All

IMO, violent gang member should be summarily executed. A menace to society.

Until we do this, or at least move in that direction, expect more anarchy in this once great nation.


9 posted on 07/17/2010 10:28:07 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: Texas resident

Hmm, maybe he should look again. Our nephew just joined the Navy and is now in special training. He says he is probably the only one there (including the women!) who doesn’t have a tattoo.


10 posted on 07/17/2010 10:28:36 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: BenLurkin
Any truth to this?

Yes.

A lot of them are LOGCAP contractors. They don't require a secret clearance and can slip under the radar more easily.

I do not walk alone on this base after sunset.

And while kidnapping by terrorist scum has always been a threat, the gangs are now equally a concern.

11 posted on 07/17/2010 10:28:58 AM PDT by Allegra (My seventh chakra is oppressed.)
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To: catbertz
Gang Activity in the U.S. Military Mar 18 2010

According to a recently released FBI report, Gang-related activity in the US military is increasing and poses a threat to law enforcement officials and national security.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/a/gangs.htm

12 posted on 07/17/2010 10:29:50 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

While this is a large problem today, it has been going on since the 1980’s maybe even earlier. Service men coming home and using their skills in criminal enterprises is nothing new.

The real problem is when these gang members, former military or not, join the police forces. Most big cities have had their police infiltrated with family and friends of gang members. I don’t think Chicago has ever had an honest police force, much less city government.

Yea I know stating the obvious.

“I aint no rat. In a town this bad, who is there to rat to anyway?”-— Detective Gordan.


13 posted on 07/17/2010 10:39:38 AM PDT by Martel1971
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To: KeyLargo

This could all be solved if they just let all the queers who so desperately want to join.


14 posted on 07/17/2010 10:56:29 AM PDT by j-damn
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To: KeyLargo

Nothing new.

Don’t forget the Hells Angels were founded by former Flying Tigers and took their name from one of the Flying Tigers squadrons.


15 posted on 07/17/2010 10:57:38 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Martel1971
The real problem is when these gang members, former military or not, join the police forces.

I was just going to say this. When the domestic police become gang infested, you can't trust them.

I wouldn't want to be an honest police man with gang members in the force. You couldn't trust them to cover you when in trouble. The civilians couldn't tell their kids to trust the police man either.

This is another good example of the folly of liberals who want the police to protect an unarmed citizenry. What will the good lefties do when their cops hold them up? They can't fight back...

16 posted on 07/17/2010 10:58:43 AM PDT by SteamShovel (UTOPIA...Isn't)
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To: Texas resident

That should do some good in keeping these guys out of the military!


17 posted on 07/17/2010 11:16:14 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: KeyLargo

I recall reading similar types of artiles in the early 70’s about retuning Viet Nam vets.


18 posted on 07/17/2010 11:27:35 AM PDT by Valin
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To: BenLurkin

The way things are going we may all be gang members in the future.


19 posted on 07/17/2010 12:22:46 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: BenLurkin
Any truth to this?

All the major players in the US drug interdiction business acknowledge the fact gangs send members with clean records into the military to gain knowledge of tactics and technology.

20 posted on 07/17/2010 12:32:55 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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