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Changing Stance, Administration Now Defends Insurance Mandate as a Tax
The New York Times ^ | July 16, 2010 | ROBERT PEAR

Posted on 07/17/2010 6:22:00 PM PDT by gop4lyf

When Congress required most Americans to obtain health insurance or pay a penalty, Democrats denied that they were creating a new tax. But in court, the Obama administration and its allies now defend the requirement as an exercise of the government’s “power to lay and collect taxes.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; corruption; democrats; economy; fail; liberalfascism; obama; obamacare; taxes
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If I understand this correctly, and I may not be, if we do not maintain whatever the arbitrarily imposed level of healthcare insurance that it is deemed that we must have, that that will be viewed by the IRS as me not paying my taxes and they will then come for me?

I did do a search and didn't find this article anywhere on FR.

1 posted on 07/17/2010 6:22:05 PM PDT by gop4lyf
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To: gop4lyf

A tax on breathing in America? FUBO!!


2 posted on 07/17/2010 6:23:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: gop4lyf

B. Hussein Obama is a communist!!


3 posted on 07/17/2010 6:24:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: gop4lyf

The idiots passed it, just as Pelosi asked, and we have the fun of discovering what is in it.


4 posted on 07/17/2010 6:25:14 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: gop4lyf
The power to tax is the power to destroy. Hussein Pelosi and Reid are working on destroying America
5 posted on 07/17/2010 6:26:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Will must be the harder, courage the bolder, spirit must be the more, as our might lessens.)
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To: gop4lyf

If I remember correctly doesn’t the bill state that the fees aren’t taxes? They made a big deal out of it so whatever a person pays in “fees” can’t be deducted like a tax can from their income tax. Seems they want it both way..like ya...


6 posted on 07/17/2010 6:26:22 PM PDT by engrpat (A village in Kenya is missing their idiot...lets send him back)
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To: gop4lyf

No one earning less than $250,000 will see their taxes increased. ~~ B Insane Obama


7 posted on 07/17/2010 6:28:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: gop4lyf

Dirty rotten lying scumbag Marxist democrats.


8 posted on 07/17/2010 6:28:14 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop thinking about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Jim Robinson

I think that they meant Monopoly money....not that there will be a difference before too long.


9 posted on 07/17/2010 6:29:26 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Obama wants to raise taxes and kill babies. Palin wants to raise babies and kill taxes.)
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To: gop4lyf

nobama has to change this. He knows if he doesn’t he’ll lose his ass in court.

W/ regard to this, I and a lota other folks “told ya so.”


10 posted on 07/17/2010 6:30:22 PM PDT by upchuck (Our margin of victory this November MUST BE greater than their margin of fraud.)
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A tax on breathing in America?

I think that one's cap and tax....this one's just for living.

11 posted on 07/17/2010 6:30:37 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Farmer Dean

Communists always lie.


12 posted on 07/17/2010 6:30:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

You’re right. FUBO. FUJM!!


13 posted on 07/17/2010 6:31:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: engrpat

You make a good point engrpat.

If all these “fees” can be deducted, the cost of this whole boondogle will be hugely increase.

Just more reasons for repeal.


14 posted on 07/17/2010 6:32:06 PM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

B. Hussein Obama, traitor in chief. John Amnesty McCain, loser traitor.


15 posted on 07/17/2010 6:33:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: gop4lyf

Taxes, taxes, taxes. :)

Pay your fair share (someone has too).


16 posted on 07/17/2010 6:33:26 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: gop4lyf

That first sentence is a mouthful. I commend you for still being able to think coherently after all the garbage we hear/see day in and day out. Most of us are burned out and just sputter.....


17 posted on 07/17/2010 6:33:29 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: gop4lyf

It’s slavery as defined in the 13th Amendment, I’ll go as far as to say it is definitely unConstitutional and probably an act of low treason as defined in current Federal Law.

If an individual state precludes itself from the mandate, the taxpayers, that is any individual or business entity with Taxpayer Identification Numbers (TIN) will still be requirede to pay the Federal IRS income tax, and still have to put up outlays for health insurance or cash payments for health coverage costs.

“ObamaCare is unconstitutional under the 13th Amendment that abolished slavery.”
- repeat that line ad nauseam to any fool or sociopath who dares defend this travesty.


18 posted on 07/17/2010 6:34:33 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: gop4lyf
From the article:
While Congress was working on the health care legislation, Mr. Obama refused to accept the argument that a mandate to buy insurance, enforced by financial penalties, was equivalent to a tax.

“For us to say that you’ve got to take a responsibility to get health insurance is absolutely not a tax increase,” the president said last September, in a spirited exchange with George Stephanopoulos on the ABC News program “This Week.”

When Mr. Stephanopoulos said the penalty appeared to fit the dictionary definition of a tax, Mr. Obama replied, “I absolutely reject that notion.”

Congress anticipated a constitutional challenge to the individual mandate. Accordingly, the law includes 10 detailed findings meant to show that the mandate regulates commercial activity important to the nation’s economy. Nowhere does Congress cite its taxing power as a source of authority.

Oops, [Rosanne voice] never mind.
19 posted on 07/17/2010 6:35:48 PM PDT by upchuck (Our margin of victory this November MUST BE greater than their margin of fraud.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Not to mention dirty harry in in NV.


20 posted on 07/17/2010 6:36:25 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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